― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 30 November 2002 14:17 (10 years ago) Permalink
― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 30 November 2002 17:55 (10 years ago) Permalink
damn Mr Jamison, all i want to do is DAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNCEEEEE!!
― doom-e, Saturday, 30 November 2002 17:57 (10 years ago) Permalink
― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 30 November 2002 18:18 (10 years ago) Permalink
― doom-e, Saturday, 30 November 2002 18:25 (10 years ago) Permalink
― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 30 November 2002 18:26 (10 years ago) Permalink
― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 30 November 2002 18:33 (10 years ago) Permalink
― doom-e, Saturday, 30 November 2002 18:34 (10 years ago) Permalink
― doom-e, Saturday, 30 November 2002 18:49 (10 years ago) Permalink
― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 30 November 2002 21:54 (10 years ago) Permalink
I heard he had an upcoming project working with Noah Baumbach of Kicking and Screaming fame.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 30 November 2002 22:01 (10 years ago) Permalink
Whit Stillman is the world's most indie film maker.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 30 November 2002 22:48 (10 years ago) Permalink
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 1 December 2002 01:04 (10 years ago) Permalink
Yeah. Me too.
I don't see why Whit Stillman is the world's most indie film maker.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 1 December 2002 01:23 (10 years ago) Permalink
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 1 December 2002 01:28 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 1 December 2002 05:42 (10 years ago) Permalink
the characters in his films are very indie.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 1 December 2002 17:02 (10 years ago) Permalink
― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 1 December 2002 22:58 (10 years ago) Permalink
Supposedly he's independent wealthy so has no need to work on films unless he really wants to.
I decided this coming weekend I will watch all of his films. I wonder if I'll like "Last Days of Disco" as much as when I first saw it...
― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 3 July 2003 04:20 (9 years ago) Permalink
I heard he was making a reggae movie (!) next.
― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 3 July 2003 05:02 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 3 July 2003 05:10 (9 years ago) Permalink
A writer/director whose light, urbane sensibility launched him to the forefront of the American independent filmmaking movement of the '90s, Whit Stillman was born in New York City in 1952. The son of a member of John F. Kennedy's Presidential administration and an impoverished debutante, he was raised in the upstate New York area of Cornwall, and later attended Harvard University, where he wrote humor pieces for the college daily. Upon graduating in 1973, Stillman relocated to Manhattan and began working as a journalist. While in Spain in 1980 for his wedding, he met a group of film producers and attempted to convince them that he could sell their movies to Spanish-language cable television stations in the U.S. The producers ultimately agreed, and Stillman spent the next several years as an international sales agent for Spanish filmmakers including Fernando Trueba and Fernando Colomo. He also occasionally appeared in motion pictures, including Trueba's 1982 work Sal Gorda and Colomo's 1984 effort La Linea del Cielo. Upon returning to the U.S. in 1984, Stillman began working at an illustration agency. Over the course of the next four years, he spent much of his free time agonizing over the screenplay of Metropolitan, his debut film as a director. To finance the film, Stillman sold his Manhattan apartment for 50,000 dollars, securing the other 175,000 dollars necessary to complete the project from friends and relatives.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 3 July 2003 05:48 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 3 July 2003 05:59 (9 years ago) Permalink
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 3 July 2003 07:49 (9 years ago) Permalink
(i admit no guilt w/r/t movies.)
― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 3 July 2003 07:52 (9 years ago) Permalink
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 3 July 2003 07:58 (9 years ago) Permalink
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 3 July 2003 14:07 (9 years ago) Permalink
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 3 July 2003 14:11 (9 years ago) Permalink
― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 3 July 2003 14:41 (9 years ago) Permalink
― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 3 July 2003 14:44 (9 years ago) Permalink
― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 3 July 2003 14:54 (9 years ago) Permalink
― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 3 July 2003 14:56 (9 years ago) Permalink
Jane Clark: Why should we believe you over Rick? We know you're a hypocrite. We know your "Polly Perkins" story was a fabrication--- Nick Smith: A composite. Jane Clark: ---that you're completely impossible and out of control, with some sort of drug problem and a fixation on what you consider Rick Von Sloneker's wickedness. You're a snob, a sexist, totally obnoxious and tiresome. And lately you've gotten just weird. Why should we believe anything you say? Nick Smith: I'm not "tiresome."
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Friday, 4 July 2003 06:14 (9 years ago) Permalink
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 4 July 2003 07:06 (9 years ago) Permalink
Fred: They're calling us pigs. That's meant to hurt!
Montserrat: I think you are too sensitive. Fred: Oh great, now we're too sensitive. Fred: I think it's well-known that anti-Americanism has its roots in sexual impotence, at least in Europe.
Fred: Maybe you can clarify something for me. Since I've been, you know, waiting for the fleet to show up, I've read a lot, and - Ted: Really? Fred: And one of the things that keeps popping up is this about "subtext." Plays, novels, songs - they all have a "subtext," which I take to mean a hidden message or import of some kind. So subtext we know. But what do you call the message or meaning that's right there on the surface, completely open and obvious? They never talk about that. What do you call what's above the subtext? Ted: The text. Fred: OK, that's right, but they never talk about that.
Seeing Barcelona again is suddenly urgent and in a very real sense, key.
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 4 July 2003 07:17 (9 years ago) Permalink
― NA (Nick A.), Sunday, 15 February 2004 17:36 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:02 (7 years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:38 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:42 (7 years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:46 (7 years ago) Permalink
This probably means I should see all the films again, and kind of want to, but I recall them kind of depressing me while watching, and they seem too long because of that, which makes me always reject the idea. It's a conundrum. Maybe if he just made 25 minute shorts? A specialty-channel tv show? Dear Whit, that would be good.
― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:47 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:48 (7 years ago) Permalink
― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:53 (7 years ago) Permalink
I feel kind of guilty for how much I enjoy Stillman movies, too, but I think Metropolitan is genuinely good.
― horsehoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:10 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:11 (7 years ago) Permalink
And Chris Eigmann [sic] is awesome in anything: "I thought the surealists were just a bunch of social climbers."
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:12 (7 years ago) Permalink
― horsehoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:14 (7 years ago) Permalink
Will wait for life to settle down and try again in a different mood, since everyone I love loves Whit Stillman.
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:37 (7 years ago) Permalink
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:41 (7 years ago) Permalink
Just last week listened to the Treatment interview with Stillman--good stuff.
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Thursday, 23 August 2012 13:24 (9 months ago) Permalink
One of the criticisms I get of the film is that all its energy goes out once Nick Smith leaves. I can see how people react that way, because you're getting a lot of the fun and comedy from Nick. A lot of these things, frankly, I did not catch as the writer of the script. People had to bring it to my attention.
― flopson, Thursday, 23 August 2012 17:11 (9 months ago) Permalink
I loved DID. Adam Brody fit perfectly in this world.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 21:28 (7 months ago) Permalink
as did gerwig i thought! my liberal pc self might've blanched at brody on homosexuality if i hadn't heard the same thing for years from some of my older queer friends (see also paris hilton on grinder for that matter). was so happy to see dookie from the wire pop up in this, in some part of my brain it means 'he got out' like w/ michael on 90210 or randy on suburgatory.
― balls, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:07 (7 months ago) Permalink
and Wallace faked his own death and turned into a high school football star!
― Number None, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:10 (7 months ago) Permalink
haha! as long as that little shit kenard doesn't pop up in anything.
― balls, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:16 (7 months ago) Permalink
DiD made me laugh a lot more than I thought it would. Pretty uneven, yes, but I think "the clash of styles in this film is bewildering and then disarming" pretty much sums up how I eventually felt. I want to watch it again, too, which is odd for this kind of movie.
― Yam, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:16 (7 months ago) Permalink
The last twenty minutes are bewildering.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:17 (7 months ago) Permalink
I'm not even sure why but i quite liked it too. It's oddly charming
― Number None, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:19 (7 months ago) Permalink
I need to watch again to remember. Iirc it did lose its way and fumbled towards a resolution (which it didn't even really need). I was surprised the musical numbers weren't as effective as I thought they'd be.
Yes "oddly charming" was about how I was going to describe it, too. That, or charmingly surreal.
― Yam, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:20 (7 months ago) Permalink
This is the sort of movie for which adverbs are redundant.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:24 (7 months ago) Permalink
ha i haven't watched the last 20 minutes yet (wife wanted to go to sleep) but i'm loving this so far. really funny.
― congratulations (n/a), Sunday, 30 September 2012 04:36 (7 months ago) Permalink
I loved it.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 September 2012 12:11 (7 months ago) Permalink
who can doubt that class and erudition have generally vanished from 'homosexual life'? and I haven't even seen Glee.
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 13:44 (7 months ago) Permalink
The march toward equality takes no prisoners. Except femmes.
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Sunday, 30 September 2012 15:13 (7 months ago) Permalink
Just got done with Metropolitan and now after six or so weeks can call myself a Stillman completest. How A-dorable was Carolyn Farina? "You really think I'm flat-chested?" Easily his least movie tho: as noted upthread the acting is uneven and the transitions suck.
Would Rank: Barcelona>The Last Days of Disco>>Damsels In Distress>>>Metropolitan
― 50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 04:33 (7 months ago) Permalink
that rank cray
― bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 13:48 (7 months ago) Permalink
you nuts, metropolitan the platonic ideal of which the rest are shadows
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 14:18 (7 months ago) Permalink
ok, maybe that's not quite fair, last days of disco is kind of its own thing which over the years has been creeping ever closer to metropolitan in my estimation
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 14:19 (7 months ago) Permalink
I'm close to thinking DID is his best.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 14:20 (7 months ago) Permalink
something about whit stillman breeds challops like tulips in may
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 15:03 (7 months ago) Permalink
I haven't seen LDoD since it came out, but with that in mind:
Barcelona > Metropolitan > Damsels In Distress > The Last Days of Disco
― Alba, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 17:35 (7 months ago) Permalink
Barfelona
― bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 17:47 (7 months ago) Permalink
Metropolitenoutoften
― bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 17:49 (7 months ago) Permalink
Chris Eightoutoften
― 50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 18:22 (7 months ago) Permalink
just had a very nice, semi-lengthy conversation with none other than T@ylor Nich0ls (unnece$$@ry g00glepr00fing)
super nice guy, talked a lot about whit and why whit never made it to the "big leagues"
shook my hand when he left and complimented me! A+ barroom chat, would hang with again
― buzza, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:14 (7 months ago) Permalink
i haven't seen DiD but i am glad people are repping for barcelona which i mean i dunno if i was having a weird night or something but i completely loved it, whereas as great as metropolitan is i don't think i've ever had as much fun watching it as i've had reciting lines from it; it is me and writer friends' holy grail. i don't mean holy grail like the object of a quest.
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:19 (7 months ago) Permalink
i brought up barcelona and he rates it higher than metropolitan fwiw
― buzza, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:20 (7 months ago) Permalink
dude. awesome.
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:31 (7 months ago) Permalink
my inveterate barfly ways finally paid off
― buzza, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:34 (7 months ago) Permalink
he probably rates Barcelona higher cos he's the main character
― Number None, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 09:07 (7 months ago) Permalink
Did you ask Nich0ls about UHB?
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 10:51 (7 months ago) Permalink
Does T4ylor Nich0ls talk like an ordinary guy?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 12:09 (7 months ago) Permalink
that was the funny part, his voice and slight stutter are so distinctive, I was totally having flashbacks to metropolitan. it was cool how he and the bartenders were talking acting, one of them had done a lot of acting in Chicago and knew the Mamet regulars pretty well. they asked me who he was when he left, one had seen him in Barcelona but the other didn't know who he was.
― buzza, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 14:30 (7 months ago) Permalink
he was in a "Murder, She Wrote" episode in the early nineties as a museum curator or something.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 14:30 (7 months ago) Permalink
Good Grief, according to imdb, he was on "Murder, She Wrote" four times in the space of four years, playing a different character each time.
He also played Custer on an episode of "Dr. Quinn".
― 50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:07 (7 months ago) Permalink
where the hell is the Barcelona DVD reissue/Criterion treatment
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 29 October 2012 18:42 (6 months ago) Permalink
Warner reissued it as a Warner Archive DVDr. I actually just broke down and got the disc for my birthday. It's a straight port of the old oop pressed disc, with all of the extras (commentary, deleted scenes etc) intact.
Supposedly a few years ago Criterion had struck a deal w/Warners to get ahold of some of their indie-type stuff, including Barcelona and Linklater's subURbia, but nothing was ever really confirmed. A poster on the criterionforum sight got to ask Stillman about it during the press tour for Damsels... and he said that he'd tried to persuade Warners to license it out, but no dice and that he'd felt the moment had passed for them to change their mind.
HOWEVER, Kim Hendrickson of the CC recently confirmed a deal of some sorts has finally been struck w/the WB. Badlands is coming, along with "a pre-code" title and possible some other films they can't talk about yet. Add to that a posting on the WB Archive Facebook page re:their reissue of once-pressed titles wherein they said to not count out future pressed bluray editions of those films (which, in addition to the Stillman, include Victor/Victoria & the og Get Carter amongst others), so...
hold out hope?
― 50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 October 2012 19:50 (6 months ago) Permalink
whoa, barcelona is print-on-demand? thats weird! i guess that's how things go with back catalog these days?
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 29 October 2012 22:56 (6 months ago) Permalink
That's how Warner does it.
― Gukbe, Monday, 29 October 2012 23:01 (6 months ago) Permalink
Shit Stillman.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 29 October 2012 23:07 (6 months ago) Permalink
i like how the whit stillman and hal hartley threads are currently neck and neck. it's like 1992 all over again!
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 29 October 2012 23:10 (6 months ago) Permalink
I watched damsels in distress on the plane last night, so funny! I was lolin out loud
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:57 (6 months ago) Permalink
Damsels in Distress was great. Very funny. I love how you slowly begin to realize that what you're seeing onscreen may not be objectively portrayed and then you begin to wonder what is real and what is peer-group reality-bubble - much like the experience of adolescent social life itself.
― o. nate, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:33 (5 months ago) Permalink
interview with my brother in law about editing and whit and other things:
http://spoileralertradio.libsyn.com/andrew-hafitz
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:26 (5 months ago) Permalink
already posted elsewhere -
Absolutely adored DID. A rare example of a movie that got better and better and better the more it went on, to the extent where I'm obsessing over it now. I see very few films that create and sustain their own reality like this - I would even describe it as one of the few genuinely surrealistic American films of recent years. A gentler, more polite, more naively prone to snobbery yes perhaps but more compassionate reality, where the impossibility of all the characters - the nobly dumb fratboys, the perpetually self-possessed (even in despair) damsels, especially Violet, whose brazen, luminous impossibility is allowed to tear through the fabric of our given reality by that glorious ending. So yes - a film with no obligation to fulfil any logic but its own.
― imago, Thursday, 17 January 2013 20:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
remember when that guy didn't know colors?
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
A rare example of a movie that got better and better and better the more it went on,
I noted the same thing but then realized I had to reacquaint myself with his rhythms.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
Whit Stillman @WhitStillmanYes thx we didn't have a prayer but “@adam_the_k: I hope list of Top 10 Oscar Snubs consoles @WhitStillman: http://nextprojection.com/2013/02/12/top-ten-2012-oscar-snubs/ …”
― a tidy profit in Russia (Eazy), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 22:59 (3 months ago) Permalink
adam_the_k has a rather stillmanesque surname
― Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 23:02 (3 months ago) Permalink