whats Stockholm like?

fine, 'cept for the dancing spiderman!

(hafhdkajfhdjkfdhahaha...snorts milk etc)

one of my plans next year may be seattle/sf/la

2. is this a good time of year to go?

People should collide with Damon Albarn at any given opportunity. I have done so myself and would heartily recommend it. Perhaps one day he will break.

AT STOCKHOLM

We could not speak, although the sudden glow
Of passion mantling to the crimson cheek
Of either, told our tale of love, although
We could not speak.

What need of language, barren and false and bleak,
While our white arms could link each other so,
And fond red lips their partners mutely seek?

What time for language, when our kisses flow
Eloquent, warm, as words are cold and weak? --
Or now -- Ah! sweetheart, even were it so
We could not speak!

--Aleister Crowley (used in a PTV album, of course)

http://medlem.spray.se/tjesan/

I'm going Sept 8-12 with another Canadian friend (we both live in London), and am about to book an apartment for us (way cheaper than hotels, and I like having a kitchen!). Supposedly all the apartments are in central Stockholm, but I see these words a lot: Ostermalm, Karlaplan, Gamla Stan, Vasastan, Kungsholmen, Norrmalm, Sodermalm. I assume these are different districts or something. Are there good ones/bad ones?

Tips for cool things to do at night and good record stores are of course welcome too!

"Ostermalm, Karlaplan, Gamla Stan, Vasastan, Kungsholmen, Norrmalm, Sodermalm"

All these are fine and in central Stockholm! Östermalm/Karlaplan = posh & boring. I'd say go with Södermalm but any of those areas = good.

Record stores ==> St Eriksgatan (map: http://shorl.com/gafosevigrubi)

Remind me in a while and I'll find some tips for clubs etc when it's a bit closer to the dates. What kinds of stuff do you like?

I did hear that Soder is good too. As for clubs I'm pretty happy anywhere as long as it's not a really tacky place for boring posh yuppie people. I'm into dirty rock&roll/indie bars but also like club/techno/dj stuff as well, so I'm pretty flexible...

When were you in Stockholm, Colette?

yeah, debaser sounds familiar. was scary because i went by myself, but met a few people at the end of the night, and was very fun once i wasn't feeling so conscious about being alone.

even though it's such a tourist thing to do, i really liked both the ice gallery and the ice bar.

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I have met Tag so I can remember what he looks like - I was going to say "recently" until I remembered it was at Club Freaky Trigger at Parker Place, so it can't have been very recent at all!

http://www.metropolis.se/bilder/2004_09_03/IMG_6305.JPG

Mark, I may have more "facial topiary" than when you met me.

I love Stockholm so much that I am moving over in 3 weeks! Goodbye Sheffield, hello Stockholm!

shaun

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more here!

Any ilxors about? Hanna?

im going to stockholm!! i arrive on the 2nd and leave on the 10th. what things should i do? im looking for both daytime sights (museums, galleries, tourist attractions, record and general shopping) and nighttime stuff (bars, clubs, etc.) is it going to be really unbearably cold?

I was there in August. Definitely go to to Moderna Museet, and try some sushi. The city library is pretty amazing to see (it's all round and stuff) and the Vasa Museet, so amazing you'll ignore the groups around you.
Shopping is basically the same as most european capitals, H&M everywhere, but you'll get some good Scandinavian design.
They say it will be cold, but so cold it will just be dry. Wrap up.
i forget what Island I was on with the cool bars. the metro is great!

bump in case anyone who has suggestions missed this last time around

It isn't very cold, just rainy and dreary. Go to Södermalm for Swedish hipsters and some shopping and getting drunk, go to St Eriksgatan for record stores, take a walk round Gamla Stan (old town) if you don't mind other tourists, and yea Moderna Muséet is nice.

thanks, thread! will be heading there for the Easter holidays...

Gonna be in Europe this spring and thinking about dropping into Stockholm and Oslo. My question is whether 3 nights in each is enough - keeping in mind my main objective is to explore the city by foot and maybe take in a museum, rather than visiting specific things. Also, I typically walk a lot when visiting cities, so can cover a lot of ground.

I obviously realize not all Scandinavian cities are the same, but I can't help compare to Copenhagen, which I decidedly can "do" in 3 nights.

Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!

3 nights in Stockholm and Oslo each, that is.

I feel Oslo can definitely done in 3 nights. Stockholm, being a pretty big archipelago, will be a bit more challenging to do by foot. There's a metro system though, so I think it could be done. Have been there only once though, as a kid some 30 years, so can't tell from recent experience. Have fun! I'm considering Norway for a holiday again this year, such a beautiful country. Will you be "just" visiting the capitals? Asking because the nature's beautiful in both Sweden ánd Norway, great for hiking.

Stockholm is bigger (geographically, demographically, culturally) than the other Nordic capitals, so I'd spend a bit longer there than in Oslo. Probably more historical sights there too, since it used to be the central hub for this whole area. And yeah, Willem is right, Stockholm is not as walkable as, say, Copenhagen or Helsinki, due to its size. You should probably get a metro card.

Thanks!

I think that Stockholm is walkable as long as you're up for walking and you can def see most of it in 3 days/nights (and catch Skansen/Vasamuseet or sth) but it can't hurt to use metro options too.

I hated it at first and wanted to leave, but then I started identifying with the people and we became very close.

me too!

I ultimately booked 4 nights in Stockholm and decided to leave Oslo for another trip, so hope to be able to cover a lot. Looking forward to it.

It's a wonderful city, ideal for walking as long as the streets aren't iced over. A lot of the recommendations upthread still hold afaik (it's been a few years for me) - I particularly like the public library. Woodland Cemetery is a really, really special place, make sure to check it out. City hall and the parliament building are a trip, esp. for those of us used to the US security state - very approachable buildings to poke around (at least outside). Slussen is a fun little clusterfuck of infrastructure with an odd l-shaped bridge; right above there on the hill is a beer garden with a great view. Tantolunden is a good spot for taking in the allotments, and hooks up to a nice promenade along the water. Definitely take a ferry out east into the archipelago - in the spring it'll be early for the full Summer with Monika experience but there are still some beautiful scenes. Have some cardamom buns and as many kinds of snaps/brannvin as you can manage. Don't get any cute ideas about going to Ikea - they are literally exactly the same as anywhere else.

Oslo is ludicrously expensive and not nearly as delightful as Stockholm IME, this is a good choice.

So, any record store recommendations for new and used vinyl and cds (lol, I'm not sure how many record stores are notable for stuff that's neither new or used, nor vinyl or cd) mainly electronic/ambient/experimental stuff?

Hopefully not at the risk of setting too high a bar, I can't wait to finally visit. : D

Going tomorrow for a long weekend.

Any recommendations in a museum/nature/food way. Staying in Sodermalm.

We went 10 years ago and didn't do much good research before going so the following are total mug punter out of date recommendations BUT fwtw:

- I was really sceptical about the Vasa (massive olden days galleon thing) but it was really awesome
- the modern art museum had a show that was good, I can't remember anything about the perm collection
- we went to the following, various levels of fanciness, found each good and friendly:

https://pelikan.se/en
https://mdghs.se/en/matbaren/
https://en.ostermalmshallen.se

Excellent, thanks Tim!

Seconding the Vasa museum, they even have an interactive game console where you can launch a virtual version of the ship yourself and see if you can make it not sink. All my attempts sank unfortunately. There's also a Nobel Prize museum in Stockholm but we didn't go, as I believe that in the spirit of honesty it should be called the Dynamite Museum.

Had an awesome swim this morning.

What about nature, any parks?

Man...:-(

So Sweden gets a new right-wing government: M-KD-L minority with far-right SD support.

The parties call their agreement the “Tidö Agreement” named after the place where they negotiated it.

I dove into the 63-page document. So here’s a thread what the four parties agreed on 🧵 pic.twitter.com/bxK7mPYIZc

— Nassreddin Taibi (@Nassreddin2002) October 14, 2022

fuckin yikes