― Bill, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
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― jel, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
The rest of the place is a shithole, full of shitbags. It's the end of the line from Liverpool Street station - 50 years ago half of East London came down for the weekend and just sort of well, stayed, really. This is of course not a bad thing, but it does have that London suburb small-mindedness about it - regular glassings in locals, tarted up Ford Novas going round and round and round, half- arsed mafiosi linkings.
I was there last weekend and encountered a fight outside the main pub on the seafront.
Shitbag 1: "Fuck off" Shitbag 2: "No, you fuck off" S1: "Fuck off" S2 "FUCK OFF" etc. etc.
Very funny, and very indicative of Clacton. DG, I know what you mean by Frinton, but you can see why when they're next to this place. This may come across as snobbish, and I shouldn't forget that those years were the best years of my life and I met some wonderful people, but I'm so glad I got out. I could handle the generall naffness of the place, but the narrow-mindedness makes me so depressed.
― Paul, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
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― mark s, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
Clacton is Romford with sand.
Neither are as bad as Walton-on-the-Naze, though.
― Paul, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
Beer's good, of course, although with a name like that it should have an all-round classic pub and it has no such thing. If you're in the area pop down to Branscombe. But Branscombe has no Peco and once, Peco was King.
― Tim, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― cabbage, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
x0x0
― Norman Fay, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
The whole Whitley Bay / North Shields / Cullercoats conurbation is K- Ace. I like that completely inappropriate Australian-styled cafe tucked into the sea front, totally lashed by the North Sea. Cool.
― DG, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
1. Also memory of giant dragonfly dead in a jar of pickled eggs at the chippie = reason why I have never quite got round to sampling PE since... 2. Also tale heard later, of a neighour walking dog on cliffs one v.early morning, looking out to sea and seeing a GRATE WAVE on the horizon, rushing in. Man stands transfixed w.horror, as wave hurtles towards Seaton, sweeping all the way up the beach over small wall IIRC, before slapping several feet up first row of houses. Much noise and minor damage, no injuries or worse. Wave a national news story following day, a similar occurred all along s.coast (this wd be mid/late 80s I think).
Man had walked dog across beach not five mins before.
― mark s, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
Big waves? biggest I've seen were crashing onto the headland at Scarborough, the one that separates north and south bay, they looked lethal, my Mum wouldn't let me get very near.
― greg elliott, Wednesday, 3 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
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― DG, Wednesday, 3 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Anna, Wednesday, 3 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
It's called BORTH!!!
― mark s, Wednesday, 3 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
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― Anna, Thursday, 4 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
http://completelyinthedark.com/main.php?g2_itemId=12896
― Proger, Thursday, 12 May 2011 10:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
Scarborough :)
― wanking on the moon (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 May 2011 10:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuthbert_Brodrick
v interesting architect
― no xmas for jonchaies (nakhchivan), Thursday, 12 May 2011 10:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
The Leeds Corn Exchange and the Grand Hotel at Scarborough are classic buildings imo
― wanking on the moon (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 May 2011 10:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
Burgh Island and its magical tide-defeating monster tractor was on Coast, it is definitely real.
Do find it's odd how Coast has made all this sort of thing almost-fashionable again, but still not quite.
― Karin Treijer-Gaskersson (Karen D. Tregaskin), Thursday, 12 May 2011 10:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
i think stuff like The Idler and The Chap and I suppose before them a bunch of twee indie miserabilists have been repping for the British seaside for a good while now but a) semi-ironic nostalgia not really most people's cup of tea and b) the reality of lots of places is just a little too grim to be totally fun times.
i like grim and unironic nostalgia so i'm good tho.
― wanking on the moon (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 May 2011 10:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
Very good book on This Sort Of Thing by a pal:
6 months living in Hastings/St Leonards cured me of any lingering nostalgie, I have to say.
― Stevie T, Thursday, 12 May 2011 11:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
aren't they full of junkies
― no xmas for jonchaies (nakhchivan), Thursday, 12 May 2011 11:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
Thing is, it depends on if you mean 'the seaside' as in pleasure beach tacky shit type way, or 'the seaside' as in the bit of land that is right next to the sea. Britain has some great moody tempestuous bits of sea.
― emil.y, Thursday, 12 May 2011 13:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
but seaside as a word definitely implies "tacky" pleasure beach shit and the decayed corpse of the 50s and 60s before society became a hole.
― wanking on the moon (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 May 2011 13:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
I don't know that it does. Or is there another word you're thinking of, that implies "seaside" as being "bit of land by sea" without that connotation? Because I don't have that automatic assumption. I don't get that automatic association unless I see it used in a phrase like "faded seaside glamour" and the like. It comes from context.
I suppose I like a bit of crumbling maritime heritage, harbour walls being pounded back to nature, piers falling slowly into the sea - but that's because I'm not really one of those people who goes to the sea for "fun in the sun, swimming etc." but I go to the sea for bleakness, windswept desolation, THE SKY IS BIGGER THAN YOU, THE SEA IS BIGGER THAN YOU, time will eat you all up, you are as dust in the wind, oh look on my works ye puny humans and despair.
Because that's what I go to the seaside for, really, not to sit in a canvas deckchair with rose-tinted sunglasses on, reminiscing of parish holidays in the 70s. But then again, I only ever really go to "seaside resorts" in the off season because it's the desolate atmosphere that I like.
― Karin Treijer-Gaskersson (Karen D. Tregaskin), Thursday, 12 May 2011 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
Does anyone remember when they tried to revive that CITV show called Knightmare back one summer in the mid-'90s with a one-off Seaside special?
Gameplay was more or less the same - one guy had to walk around the levels while his teammates guided him with instructions from afar, except instead of a large viking helmet he wore an outsized kiss-me-quick hat and carried a stick of rock. Tregard was dressed in a lifejacket and sat quite high up in an adirondack chair, helping the team with cautions like "Warning team, the tide is coming in!" and then you'd hear a ship's horn blow in the distance, a bit like when the hobgoblins would come in the original. I remember they managed to get rid of a fearsome dog walker with "Spellcasting: J-E-L-L-Y-F-I-S-H".
Shame it didn't really take off. My mate reckons they also did a 1978 version where you carried a fondue set and wore a huge permed wig, but I don't believe him.
― Devil Mo (dog latin), Thursday, 12 May 2011 14:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
I think that the connotation of deckchairs and funfairs and sand castles etc is definitely strong with 'seaside', but I can't think of an alternative word for 'bit of land next to the sea'. Maybe just 'sea'? Or 'coast', I guess?
Definitely look for the same thing as you, KDT. The vastness gives me the fear, but in a beautiful way.
xpost no! Are you sure that's real? I've always thought they should revive Knightmare, though. I loved that shit.
― emil.y, Thursday, 12 May 2011 14:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
Britain has some great moody tempestuous bits of sea.
Well, we are surrounded by the stuff
― Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 May 2011 14:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
Coast, yes.
― Mark G, Thursday, 12 May 2011 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
The Coast will do. "Going for a run to the Coast", I'm sure we used to do that on a Sunday back in the day.
― Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 May 2011 14:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
"coast" or "seashore" for the Romantic bits. or even "strand" eh? I guess "seaside" is too close to "Oh I Do Like to Be Beside the" for me to shake the resort connotations
― wanking on the moon (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 May 2011 14:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
... run in the car, in case there's any confusion. When I think of Ayrshire, which is where we used to go a run to, then I think "Coast" not "Seaside"
― Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 May 2011 14:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
contentment
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
i have never visited any of the classic south east seaside resorts but i'm pretty comfortable with that
― i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
― i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
november is good for the seaside, on a good day it's still mild yet almost totally deserted
they could literally blow up a hotel in brighton and nobody would know
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
seaside towns out of season always remind me of the small town i grew up in, tons of metal kids, random and frequent brute violence, every scene the decaying corpse of something that the city kids got bored of 10 years ago, desperation fitted as standard.
― i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 18:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
the home counties bourgie population have just about enough residual enthusiasm for blighty-on-sea that about half of brighton-hove-worthing and maybe a couple of places in suffolk have escaped that fate
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 18:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
hastings can be fucking grim, most of north kent too
Try Hastings for authentic violence and desperation.
― Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 18:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol xp
Hastings - bookshops, heroin and black black depression. Still quite like it. Lovely walk you can do from Hastings over to Rye. Changes from chalk cliff downland to marshes and military canals. Some pleasant bathing to be had within sight of Dungeness as well.
Folkestone is fucked tho. I went there for the first time in ages last year and it was the bits of it that weren't being demolished were utterly dilapidated. And there was a grime singer channeling a curious mixture of enthusiasm in his delivery and seaside no-hope bleakness in his content, standing in a bandstand with some pensioners who had nothing else to be curious about swaying slightly in front of him. Some vicious sods in a transit van driving round swearing at Asians.
― Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 18:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hastings is fine. I seriously do not get a heroin and violence vibe from it. The seafront is remarkably intact and rather lovely (in the sunshine).
― Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Such a shame they got rid of the old cricket ground -
The Central Recreation Ground, Hastings was a cricket ground in Hastings, Sussex. The first recorded match on the ground was in 1864 and the last in 1996, following which Priory Meadow Shopping Centre was built on the site.
― Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 20:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
With perfect timing the Guardian big up Kent.http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2011/aug/05/kent-coast-art-summer-holiday
Somewhere between this and ilx's bleak view lies the truth.
― Ned Trifle X, Saturday, 6 August 2011 10:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Saltburn by the Sea. Worth a visit?
― djh, Thursday, 22 September 2011 18:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hmm. Is that a "no"?
― djh, Friday, 23 September 2011 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
No, it's definitely worth a visit. Earlier this year I drove down the coast from Newcastle to Whitby. I wouldn't recommend doing that in one go though as it takes a lot longer than you might think (getting round Middlesborough is the problem). Anyway, it's a got a nice beach, a quaint and creaking funicular railway, and some faded Victorian grandeur which is always nice.
― Ned Trifle X, Friday, 23 September 2011 17:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
And The Guardian thinks it's like a Northern Southwold (which is pushing it a bit).
― Ned Trifle X, Friday, 23 September 2011 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
That whole coast is definitely somewhere I want to look around more.
― Ned Trifle X, Friday, 23 September 2011 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ta. Was born there but don't remember it and feeling a vague pull to visit.
― djh, Friday, 23 September 2011 21:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
Right ... off to Saltburn in a couple of weeks: pubs I must drink in? places to eat? walks?
― djh, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
My housemate's from Saltburn, so I'll see what he recommends.
I'm staying at the Midland in Morecambe in a couple of weeks. Northern seaside > Southern seaside
― oppet, Thursday, 12 January 2012 14:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Have had The Ship and a cafe "called something like Del Mar" recommended.
― djh, Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
What did your housemate recommend?
― djh, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ah fuck, he fucked off for a few days without telling me. I will pursue this.
― oppet, Saturday, 21 January 2012 13:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
Right then ... Saltburn this weekend.
― djh, Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
OFFICIAL GUIDE
Pubs: The Victoria is the best one. The Mermaid is fine. The Ship is better for its location than for its drink.
Food: I wouldn't really trust my housemate on food choices tbh but he says there is an Italian place called Alessi's which is 'alright'. Vista Del Mar is also good apparently. Popular with Boro legend David Wheater.
Walks: Go down to the valley gardens and through there. There's a miniature railway. Then you can go on the cliffs towards Boulby.
If you have a car then you should go out to the moors.
That all sounds very nice.
― oppet, Thursday, 26 January 2012 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
Nice one, thanks.
― djh, Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
The walk from Saltburn to Skinningrove was lovely.
Amazed at how well used the beach at Saltburn was.
― djh, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
Glad you had a good time. I've had to postpone my Morecambe trip but want to get that done soon, then maybe visit Robin Hood's Bay nearer the summer.
― oppet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Impressed at how well-used the beach was.
Saltburn *felt* less run down - less "Every Day Is Like Sunday" - than I was expecting though may not have been seeing the full picture.
― djh, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
It does seen to have aged better than a lot of similar places. Not really sure why, but I think it's still seen as a 'nice' place to live for the North East's wealthier residents (unlike e.g. Morecambe and Blackpool which have declined as the money moved inland/to the Lakes).
― oppet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
Might have asked this elsewhere and forgotten/been drunk ... recommend anywhere to stay along the Pembrokeshire coast?
― djh, Saturday, 25 February 2012 23:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
If you want to stay in a town, Tenby is highly recommended. It's a small to medium size, traditional seaside resort town that has a bit of life but is also very picturesque. St. David's is also nice. It's a small town, a mile or so inland, noteworthy for the cathedral but also very well placed for walking. I also quite like Fishguard, which is more rough and down to earth, less touristy.
All these places are quite small so it's pretty easy to get out and onto the cliffs etc. To be honest you could stay anywhere and it would be fine, although I guess it depends on your need for public tramsport. Tenby and Fishguard can be reached directly by rail. St. David's can be reached by bus from either Fishguard or Haverfordwest (where there's a railway station).
― dubmill, Sunday, 26 February 2012 10:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Public transport not a huge issue - we'll be driving there though it is always good to try and use buses once there.
Any recommendations for specific self catering places to stay (to accomodate two people)?
Many plans for the holiday: to get on the coastal path, to visit Skomer/Skojholm, to drink beer, to sit and watch the sea.
― djh, Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.caldey-island.co.uk/
maybe worth a visit while you're there, i was only a wee boy when we visited but it was pretty special
― FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Stayed here several times and was really happy with it:
http://www.solvaholidays.co.uk/cottages.php
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Solva&hl=en&ll=51.872702,-5.194892&spn=0.003604,0.006899&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=14.149238,28.256836&oq=solva&hnear=Solva,+Pembrokeshire,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=51.872724,-5.195067&panoid=0qD_n-JmdwGsmlv6nAmNEw&cbp=12,342.12,,0,0
Solva is about three miles from St. David's. The bus to/from St. David's/Haverfordwest passes through the village.
I've also stayed at a place in St. David's itself, just across the road from the Farmer's Arms pub, but I can't remember what it was called.
― dubmill, Sunday, 26 February 2012 13:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Brighton seems an interesting place.
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Sunday, 26 February 2012 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Thanks Dubmill/Noodle Vague.
― djh, Monday, 27 February 2012 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
Have a week off work booked for June and September.
Want to be by the coast but aside from that ... recommendations welcome, either vaguely (area) or as specific as a nice cottage for two. Anywhere in the UK.
― djh, Monday, 9 April 2012 14:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
Tempted by this:
Waves: The Sounds of Britain's Shores (British Library Sound Archive).
― djh, Monday, 7 May 2012 00:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
The current series of "Coast" is lacking something (and, unusually, finding Nicholas Crane a bit annoying - okay when he's on screen but his voice overs are grating.)
― djh, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:38 (11 months ago) Permalink
Also, best bit of Scottish coast?
Is Mull nice? Any recommendations?
― djh, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:43 (11 months ago) Permalink
Or any of the other Scottish islands?
― djh, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:04 (11 months ago) Permalink
Any bits of coast/seaside nice along near Weston Super Mare?
― djh, Saturday, 28 July 2012 20:23 (9 months ago) Permalink
sandwood bay, sutherland.
morfa harlech, cardigan bay.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 28 July 2012 21:55 (9 months ago) Permalink
don't know about weston super mare but these are both recommended.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 28 July 2012 21:57 (9 months ago) Permalink
A return trip to Saltburn planned for January.
Looking for accommodation for eight (three couples, two kids) in Saltburn or thereabouts. Any recommendations?
― djh, Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:11 (5 months ago) Permalink
How are the roads between York and Whitby at the moment?
(Basically, is it insane to drive from Oxford to Whitby via York this weekend?)
― djh, Monday, 21 January 2013 21:52 (3 months ago) Permalink
Was a bit bored by Coast this evening.
― djh, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 19:56 (1 month ago) Permalink