I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

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Perfect name.

Alternately, I guess:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrrEo3hZABU

(Weird, listening to that I'm in ninth grade all over again)

It actually comes from a Clinton quote at the end of July, but NIN is also a fair association...

http://www.reuters.com/video/2016/07/31/clinton-on-trump-i-dont-know-where-the-b?videoId=369440017&videoChannel=1003

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Wtf is going on there. Is he making shadow puppets on her back?

Looking for those darn WMDs iirc

he doesn't know where the bottom is

ironically, Walsh Jennings and her new partner lost today. To the Swiss*.

*the fucking Swiss

Titties like Detroit, though

I'm sick of the swiss

Robby Mook is the bottom

Trump just called obama "the founder of ISIS"

at this pt he's gotta keep swinging for the fences.

he whiffs about as much as Rob Deer tho

Stress Over Family Finances Propelled Hillary Clinton Into Corporate World

this is like if they got one of the "What You Get For $2 million" authors to write a piece about Hillary Clinton's terrible struggles

Even some of Mrs. Clinton’s allies privately say they are mystified by her choice to make the Wall Street speeches, given the likelihood that they would become an issue in a presidential campaign. And to some of them, her financial moves clash with the selfless Methodist credo to do good for others that she so often says guided her toward a life of public service.

But her longtime friends say the contradiction is rooted in Mrs. Clinton’s practicality and the boom-and-bust cycles that have characterized her life with Bill Clinton.

At no time did those stresses fall more squarely on Mrs. Clinton’s shoulders than in the difficult two-year period in Arkansas when she and her husband found themselves cast out of office, financially strained and deeply uncertain about the future. And the memory of that time shaped her desire to be free from financial burden.

“Hillary had a couple years of the taste of what it means to be a working mother, without any help, to have to take care of a small baby and care for your job,” said James B. Blair, a close Clinton friend and lawyer who offered Mrs. Clinton investment advice in the 1970s.

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It was one of the smallest houses on the block in Little Rock’s Hillcrest section, and Mrs. Clinton largely bought it with her own money, the month after that devastating 1980 election loss.

omg, poor hillary. what a DUMP

The Clintons had stretched their finances to afford the $112,000 home, which was down the hill from the city’s old-money mansions. The sprawling estate of Winthrop Rockefeller, the celebrated former governor, was so close that it practically cast a shadow on the Clintons’ grassy backyard.

aww man they had to live next to a mansion? it must have been so embarrassing to live next to an estate of a former governor, how did they do it?!

Mr. Clinton had turned down out-of-state job offers in academia and Democratic politics, and instead took the only offer he had in Arkansas, to serve “of counsel” for $55,000 a year at the Wright, Lindsey & Jennings law firm, where Mr. Clinton’s longtime adviser Bruce R. Lindsey was a partner.

But he spent most of his time on the road, often accompanied by Mr. Lindsey, trying to win back the hearts of voters.

i don't know how he did it. 55K a year in 1980, and all you do all day is travel around talking to people? fuck and gameboy wasn't even around, wtf, i take back everything i ever said about the clintons

Mrs. Clinton had become a partner at the Rose Law Firm in 1979, and during these lean years

i'll never forget my own lean years when i was having all of those tedious discussions about where my last name would be placed in my law firm's name. i mean i understand the argument for seniority but i was bringing in so many clients, i really should have been listed 2nd if not first. at any rate i sympathize with hillary here

“I’m not sure she ever planned to be a corporate lawyer,” said Lissa Muscatine, a friend and former chief speechwriter to Mrs. Clinton. But she did the work because “she had the earning capacity that he didn’t have as governor.”

i know the purple heart isn't traditionally given to civilians who were not wounded in combat, but can we make an exception here and give it to hillary clinton because i cannot believe these sacrifices

Two years later, the state increased the governor’s term to four years, and the Clintons’ finances appeared more stable. Mrs. Clinton went on to join the board of Walmart, and she continued to work at the Rose Law Firm. By the time Mr. Clinton was running for president, they reported $297,177 in total income on their 1992 tax returns, a sum that would put most Americans in the upper income tier but seemed meager compared with the wealth of his opponents, George Bush and Ross Perot.

(Adagio for Strings plays in the background)

On that GOP outreach of Clinton's:

Clinton’s post-convention polling surge may have reduced the leverage of progressive voters. According to the Washington Post-ABC News poll released Sunday, Clinton is winning 11 percent of Republican registered voters, similar to 13 percent for Barack Obama in August 2008. Just 14 percent of Democratic-leaning voters who wanted Sanders to win the primary do not support Clinton in a two-way race, compared with 30 percent of Clinton supporters who did not support Obama in August 2008.

Much of that, progressives say, is because of the real threat of a Trump presidency. Since conceding the primary, Sanders has relentlessly warned his supporters not to oppose Clinton’s campaign. (He declined through a spokesman to comment for this article.) Noam Chomsky, a left-wing intellectual who has criticized Kissinger’s foreign policy interventions for decades, said that it still makes sense for voters to unite against Trump.

“I don’t like it, but it cannot give me pause, since the alternative is vastly worse, even on endorsements,” Chomsky said. “I don’t see the significance of neocons endorsing Clinton, probably not because they particularly like her but because they are concerned, sometimes terrified, about Trump.”

The conservatives abandoning the GOP over Trump have the same concerns. “I’m speaking up so that when my grandchildren come home from college and ask me what I was doing in this election, I can tell them,” said Eliot Cohen, a co-founder of the Project for a New American Century who signed the “letter of 50” and planned to write in the name of Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) for president. “What I’d say to Sanders voters is: Can’t you accept the possibility that there are people you disagree with, but who are on your side this time?”

xp I couldn't even read that article....

Came out of the White House with little to no money, has since made $200+ million. Like to know when she possibly has time to spend it.

a sum that would put most Americans in the upper income tier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wLHAkMhwyM

this shit makes my blood boil

(Adagio for Strings plays in the background)

yeah, the thing about that article is that it wants to make you sympathetic to clinton but it really boils down to "she's a bit greedy"

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it's obvious he just says whatever will get a crowd response. if they like something enough, he ups the ante right away, or next time. if they cheered when he started talking about how he's going to rid gardens of snails, that would become a part of his stump speech.

i don't know. these statements seem somewhat calculated -- he always phrases things in a vague enough way to have plausible deniability, but his supporters steal hear the intended message loud and clear. "i was just saying ISIS honors obama because his strategy in iraq enabled their rise. how dare you try to claim i was implying anything to the contrary!"

then he gets to blame the "crooked media" for "twisting his words" and they respond by debating what he really meant and voila, trump dominates the news cycle. if he does so by sinking further in the mud, he also creates the illusion that the media and his opponent are down there with him too. he does this same thing like every single day

http://www.youtube.com/v/7wLHAkMhwyM&fs=1&hl=en

I read the transcript of this and could not believe it was real and not one of those Owen Ellickson tweets

what does it say that this doesn't shock me at all?

I think I'm well past the point of having an emotional response to these statements anymore, and just react to them tactically/strategically. And they're utterly baffling. (Because we're well past the Republican primaries when such statements clearly worked, even if it took everyone, me included, a long time for that to click in.)

It does, probably, push the second-amendment stuff to the side. To what purpose, I'm not sure. It's neither "better" nor "worse"; all it does is guarantee another day or two of Trump's surrogates trying to explain what he really meant. There are three months until the election. Two days don't matter, unless you start adding up two plus two again and again.

Seems about right:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/

I can't wait for the moment in the debate when Trump blames Hillary for ISIS and Hillary responds, "they literally use your face and your words in their recruitment videos"

God I hope she does. I hope she tells him to shut the fuck up. It would help

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/10/people-love-it-when-donald-trump-makes-fun-of-journalists-except-one-in-particular/

Xxxxxxxxxposts Karl Malone u r funny!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/07/22/actor-michael-caine-says-he-changed-his-name-to-michael-caine-because-of-isis/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandomuk_1_na

Do we know how many other people are crossing our borders with assumed names?! How many liars and cheaters are roaming free on our streets, with no accountability? Bring this Michael Caine in for further questioning, find out who funds him, and then bomb them!

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In an appearance on CNBC, Donald Trump reiterated his claim at a campaign rally in Florida on Wednesday that Barack Obama is the “founder of ISIS,” as was Hillary Clinton. “What,” Trump asked on Thursday morning, “are people complaining that I said he was the founder of ISIS?”

“In sports they have awards—he gets the Most Valuable Player award,” Trump said. “Him and Hillary. She gets it too.”

how quickly we forget jihadi john :(

I know this was mentioned in the other thread before it was locked, but worth memorializing:

Mr. Trump also found himself in an awkward camera framing immediately after criticizing the Clinton campaign for the appearance of Seddique Mir Mateen, the father of the Pulse gunman, at Mrs. Clinton’s campaign event this week. “Wasn’t it terrible when the father of the animal that killed these wonderful people in Orlando was sitting with a big smile on his face right behind Hillary Clinton?” Mr. Trump said.

Yet sitting behind Mr. Trump was Mark Foley, a former Republican congressman who resigned after being confronted with sexually explicit messages he had sent to underage congressional pages. Mr. Trump seemed not to be aware of the disgraced former congressman’s presence as he tried to cast doubt on the Clinton campaign’s account that it had not known who Mr. Mateen was. “When you get those seats, you sort of know the campaign,” Mr. Trump said.

"I'm a truth teller. All I do is tell the truth. And if at the end of 90 days, I've fallen short because I'm somewhat politically correct even though I'm supposed to be the smart one and even though I'm supposed to have a lot of good ideas, it's OK. I go back to a very good way of life."

^^ I actually thought that was a fake quote until I came across the CNBC interview this morning. We should come up with a special Real-Donald-Trump font from here on in.

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He's like a malfunctioning bot at this point, spewing magnetic poetry pieces intermixed with the occasional fringe-y retweet to keep people's interest.

I bet a simple neural network could emulate Trump-speak pretty quickly, given it doesn't ever have actually make sense or follow any sort of sentence structure.

It's true. Sad!

xp https://twitter.com/deepdrumpf

http://time.com/4447985/inside-donald-trump-meltdown/

This "eh, either I win or I get to do some mad chillaxing" trip he's on is the tack of of a presidential candidate who a) is preparing to lose and b) isn't that concerned about losing.

He was also preparing to lose when he was prematurely speculating about the election being rigged.

What's up, Tomboto? I don't want her to win for a million reasons, but not because she's a woman. Are you still flogging that dead horse? I'm 48, though, so yes--vewy old.
Nothing to see here, though, pneumonia...but wait, why did they wait 7 hours to tell us? I thought it was the excruciating heat. Again, lovely here this morning. Contrary to what you probably assume, I don't want her to get any kind of sickness. But she's a crook with health issues she's hiding whom I'd rather not see President--or are we conspiracy theorists again? See you next time

xp no i mean the betting markets on the presidential election since this morning

you absolute fucking weirdo

Lol, Trump got a quack to write up a phony health certificate, and he won't release more, but you're attacking Hillary for this? Yeah, you're not a sexist piece of shit at all, no sir.

I'm not sure you know what sexist means. You can be a rabid, hypocritical partisan who hates Hillary without being a sexist.

did the doctor examine her bottom?

x-post: Are you really jumping in here to defend the rabid right-wing anti-Hillary crusade against accusations of sexism? Well, you're definitely spending you're time constructively.

Why don't you not be the first person to make these raving posts itt Fred. Set a timer, see how long behind you accuser #2 is, make a game of it, whatever.

Diagnosed with pneumonia, htf was she well enough to come out and play for the press only a few hours ago? Evidence imo that she's twice as tough as she looks, if anything.

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It's just a lazy conversation-ender. But I guess that's what you were going for. I don't really want to feed the troll either.

why did they wait 7 hours to tell us?

Good lord. They waited longer than that to announce that FDR was dead!

Why don't you not be the first person to make these raving posts itt Fred.

Why don't you read ten posts above, darragh?

And yeah, I'm not trying to have a conservation with a sexist pos troll, schwantz...

Best way to avoid it is not to post itt imo

ilx can absorb a dilution of 1/10000 for anticlinton posters

That's all I'm saying. Screaming sexist at anyone who dares to resist Clinton isn't exactly heroic itt.

I'd go a good bit further, thread stinks of its own farts and every additional trump impersonation is a new fucking low for the site tbh.

x-post: That's not what I do either. At all. Nor is Iago simply anticlinton, he is proTrump. And a worthless, lying troll, who doesn't contribute with one iota of actual discussion. Shooting down every attack on sexism with false accusations is not heroic either.

Dear christ you are not being invited to extend your case by proxy here you are being asked for the thousandth time in a US election thread to tone it the fuck down

I'm only in here because we owed the yanks a favour after the good Friday agreement

Go away, darragh. You began your attack with a lie. If you don't want me to 'extend my case' don't begin by lying about me, ok?

Viking? That's where I'm asleep.

don't tone it the fuck down fred b. you're pissing off all the right people.

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Threadban Iago and dropkick him off the fucking planet.

That's all I'm saying. Screaming sexist at anyone who dares to resist Clinton isn't exactly heroic itt.

― schwantz, Sunday, September 11, 2016 11:34 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dares to resist? god. being a petulant man-baby and being sexist aren't exactly the same thing, like technically you can separate them out, but they're usually not far from each other.

Threadban Iago and dropkick him off the fucking planet.

― Neanderthal, Sunday, September 11, 2016 11:50 PM (fifty-five seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

would you shut the fuck up? like go back to chainposting on your shitty religion thread.

Eat my dick

You are a fucking cumstaun

*stain

Sheesh, I'm voting for her, but the tedious echo chamber itt is pretty much self-parodic at this point.

You are a worthless piece of shit

Xpost not you Schwantz

Was gonna say!

Yer fine.

pleased to have gotten first hurl in this shitfight

Fuck you too

Back to RedZone...

:D

I know where the bottom is

I dunno what the fuck the point of existing is. Humanity is garbage. Fuck this thread.

I don't know either but it's def not to post on message boards. Let's all go outside.

Well that escalated quickly

good job everyone, can we lock the thread now?

I said we needed a new thread 100 posts ago fwiw

Well that escalated quickly

please don't anybody use this line any more, thanks

"Guys, guys, look at us..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asM056FLmg0

cumstaun

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money shot

nice

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*whacks reset button*

I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget