Unexplained Mysteries and Phenomena - S/D

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Search: Stonehenge, ghosts
Destory: Those fairies at the bottom of the garden, Pyramids.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago) link

search: The Orphyreus Wheel, spontaneous human combustion, Bonnybridge

destroy: butterside down, multiple bus syndrome, Dave Matthews Band

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 15:32 (twenty years ago) link

S: Mono Grande

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.starchildproject.com

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 15:54 (twenty years ago) link

Search: the creepy faces that appeared on the floor of a house in Belmez, Spain, in the seventies:

http://www.forteantimes.com/gallery/images/faceinstone.jpg

Destroy: spoon bending.

Nemo (JND), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

S: Oak Island, chemtrails, the Holy Grail
D: Roswell busheet mang

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:03 (twenty years ago) link

I was to write that I would like to know what was the purpose of the 2,000 years old electric battery but I found an explaination here:
"What might they have been used for? German researcher Dr. Arne Eggebrecht used copies of the batteries to electroplate items. The electroplating process uses a small electric current to put a thin layer of one metal (such as gold) on to the surface of another (such as silver). Eggebrecht suggests that many ancient items in museums that are thought to be gold may actually be gold-plated silver."

Please add a skeptic explainations to the "searches" of this thread!

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:16 (twenty years ago) link

S: Where did I leave that fucking notepad?
D: Mysteries of religion.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

search: rain of frogs

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

bah everyone knows frog rain is caused by frog clouds.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:27 (twenty years ago) link

S: the 12-year-old me who always loves watching tv shows and reading books about this kinda thing

D: the freaky tone of all those programs, leaving the 12-year-old(or younger) me to stay up at night

Kingfish Cowboy (Kingfish), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:32 (twenty years ago) link

S-The Dickead Void (ie where your keys go)
D-Ongs Hat

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:33 (twenty years ago) link

Search: Easter Island, the Nazca Plane illustrations in Peru


Destroy: Absolutely anything Jesus-related. Get over it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:39 (twenty years ago) link

I'm intrigued by that face in the stone. Is there any context to it? Further info? I'd never heard of it before.

Ghosts in general do it for me. I both believe (having seen one) and don't believe (every other part of my brain).

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

If you look up "faces belmez" in google, you'll find lots of links about the faces in the stone. This story scared me terribly as a child, and still sends chills up my spine.

From one of the Internet articles: "Investigators made tape recordings whilst the house was unattended and locked. When replayed, the tapes contained inexplicable sounds of distant human wailing, whispering and crying."

Yeep!

Nemo (JND), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago) link

The stuff that interests me along these lines tends to be historical questions, partly because that's what I run into and partly because there's so much bad television about the supernatural stuff that I've been turned off it. I wish I wasn't. I've gotten tired of the Basque language question for the same reason -- too many folks with web pages going on about their loony theories.

Search: the proto-Sumerians and the Exodus question, both of which are probably going to become more focal in ancient history in the next few decades, unless there's a long drought of new data.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:06 (twenty years ago) link

http://throwpots.com/newbelmez.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:06 (twenty years ago) link

search: Bigfoot, specifically some of the creepy-as-hell investigative sighting reports at The Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization

Stuart (Stuart), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

SEARCH: There's a brand new hipper-than-thou hotel that just opened recently here in NYC called The Maritime. It occupies the building that once housed Father Bruce Ritter's Covenant House, the home for wayward child prostitutes that closed in a flurry of allegations of inappropriate behaviour on the part of Father Ritter. In any event, the building was radically made-over and now resembles a big posh-o hotel with a nautical theme (despite being directly across the street from some rather forbidding housing projects). Anyway, there was an article in the NEW YORKER not too long ago that alleged that there have been numerous instances of unexplained phenomena (doors slamming, the sound of children crying coming from empty rooms, etc.) Chilling.

DESTROY: Idiotic punk-wananbes loitering around the Chelsea Hotel in the hopes of finding Rm.100 (where Sid offed Nancy) or hoping to ride the elevator that Sid purportedly "haunts" (I'd imagine the wayward spirit of the late Mr.Vicious would have better things to do).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:14 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah, Crybaby Bridges are kinda cool.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

search: leonard nimoy
destroy: robert stack

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

alanis morrisette - hands clean

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

search: the ark of the covenant resides in ethiopia
destroy: the fucking bible code

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:21 (twenty years ago) link

Search: ILX, obv. Anyway, Kate to thread.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:23 (twenty years ago) link

search: yeti, mkolo-mbembe, el chupacabra, mothman
destroy: bigfoot, nessie, appalachian flying cat, nostradamus

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:23 (twenty years ago) link

vahid otm!

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:24 (twenty years ago) link

also: whatever happened to the bermuda triangle?? does it no longer eat planes and boats, or do people just fly around it now??

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:26 (twenty years ago) link

the Bermuda Triangle was powered by ozone

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

I don't remember if it's online or not -- probably -- but the quickest refutation of the Bermuda Triangle I've read pointed out that the number of crashes and missing planes/boats there is only unusual if you're not considering it per capita. Lots of people get lost there because lots of people go through there, most of them amateur pilots.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:32 (twenty years ago) link

Search: the Dogons!, Count Saint Germaine
Destroy: UFOS, crop circles

pete s, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago) link

S: The Toynbee Tile phenomenon

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:38 (twenty years ago) link

'search: The Orphyreus Wheel'

Yus

pete s, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:40 (twenty years ago) link

Search: Cryptozoology

I grew up not far from where the Patterson film was shot (in Northern California), and literally grew up in those woods. I never saw no Bigfoot. The Hoopa Indians mock bigfoot sightings... he's a woodland spirit, they say, and can't be seen.

But I've seen more recent footage that was mind-blowing, shot up in Canada or something. I still don't believe, but I was impressed. It showed a bigfoot running across a bare hillside.

I'm more interested in the recent sightings of the Tasmanian tiger in Tasmania. Obviously more credible.

andy, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 17:41 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeh, Arc of the Covenant is in Ethiopia is a joke. "Yes, it's in this room here. And no, you can't see it. Go away or I shall taunt you some more."

Johnney B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:45 (twenty years ago) link

Search: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39920000/jpg/_39920559_frog.jpg

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:07 (twenty years ago) link

MC Escher vacation snapshot?

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:09 (twenty years ago) link

DV, thats some weird shit! Is that like frog hail? (from the frog clouds, obviously)

Johnney B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

Have you read Plague of Frogs, DV?

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:13 (twenty years ago) link

I've just read up on Mothman. My god that's freaky.

Makes me glad I don't believe in that kind of thing . . .

Johnney B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

the frog monster is from a recent BBC news article. apparently it was found in some school. At first they thought it was three frogs getting it on, but then they realised - IT WAS ONE THREE HEADED FROG WITH NINE LEGS.

after being photographed it escaped. I am waiting to hear that it has grown to enormous size and gone on the rampage.

"CURSE YOU, PUNY ONE HEADED FULES!" it will say.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:10 (twenty years ago) link

oh god that's sad. the number of birth defects in frogs is apparently sky-high these days. pretty much everywhere in the world, too, i hear. scary.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, Plague of Frogs is about that, the search to figure out what the hell's going on with frogs -- it's a worldwide phenomenon, apparently unconnected to pollution (contrary to early theories) or climate. Frogs are just kind of going nuts.

(I need to reread it now that I know more biology; it's written by a journalist, but even so I'm sure there's a lot I wasn't catching.)

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago) link

wait - are you sure the environmental theory has been debunked?? i hadn't heard that and i keep pretty up-to-date on this stuff. do you remember who had done the debunking?

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

"bigfoot...he's a woodland spirit, they say, and can't be seen."

There's a theory that a lot of creatures like bigfoot, aliens, mothman, etc. are actually interdimensional beings who only occasionally "cross over" and are then seen by ordinary folk. Certain window areas (or areas where there are a high concentration of sightings) apparently have some sort of environmental anomaly that allows these beings to come through more often than other places.

I read too many crackpot books. But they're so much fun!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

Father Bruce Ritter's Covenant House
The rule, apparently, judging from every NY Post or Daily News article in the late 80s, is that this MUST ALWAYS BE referred to as:

"Scandal-Rocked Covenant House"

Thank you. That is all.

Skottie, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2991695997&category=19270

this guy has some fab auctions. this one is for $1,000,000:

"This will be the last time these auctions will run. With the new information of the rare upcoming Venus/Sun transit starting on June 8 2004 and culminating in 2012 at the end of the Mayan calendar this information has jumped in value 10 fold. The metaphysical wise will know why since the Lucifer and alien involvement will play an important role. I had made a promise no matter how much this evidence will be ridiculed that I would run the auctions 3 times and I always keep my promise. "

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:25 (twenty years ago) link

wait - are you sure the environmental theory has been debunked?

Only as sure as I can be from having just read the one book; but apparently there were just too many cases of it happening where there were no signs of pollution, and it's happened in pretty much every climate where frogs live in the wild. I'd go grab it, but it's one of the books I had to put in storage to make room.

Oh, by "climate" I meant "local climate." Global warming, or at least worldwide atmospheric changes, seems to be the most likely explanation, at the end of the book, iirc. (Since the book's now 2 years old, who knows what's happened since.)

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:26 (twenty years ago) link

more links!

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago) link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19270&item=2991697423

Satans footprint for sale. $1,000,000.

"Friday, Nov 13 1998: Conducting my nightly contact research at the Wanaque vortex. During the height of actual “face to face” occurrences with beings from all aspects of history, religion and alien content, I was searching under the bridge overpass. I then noticed a being of the likes I have never seen before. His image was that of the devil himself. His aura spun around him as if they were electrons spinning around a nucleus of an "

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:32 (twenty years ago) link

Any proofs it was rapid in those cases? I thought they were alone and burnt slowly, that's why the fire, fueled by their fat when clothes were gone, got to be hot enough to dissolve even the bones.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 21:19 (twenty years ago) link

why are you assuming all of the cases were alcoholics? who knows...
i am more into The Code


kephm, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

search: ilxors and who they work for and how they get to read ilx all day and not get bagged from theBoss and how can i get one of these jobs

kephm, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

kephm, about the combustion thing in any case from what I've read they were passed out, by alchool or medicaments.
I didn't spent many hours to build a case on this but I think I said enough to light a skeptic spark in the mind of people interested in this subject, in that line of thought I would suggest to check the skeptic dictionary http://skepdic.com/shc.html for their take on this subject, and others talked about in this thread.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 21:42 (twenty years ago) link

thankyou for keeping me in check, Scully. :P i've been on the website before,& i think you are just part of the global geometric debunking squad as you are distracting me from dissecting the codes of pie

kephm, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

You might be onto something with the global geometric debunking squad, possibly without me knowing about it, because I've already been told matter-of-factly by a conspiracy theorist that my eyes weren't "opened"!

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:00 (twenty years ago) link

i'd like to mention the voynich manuscript which is weird and looks beautiful as well. oh and the beale papers are fun too.

zappi (joni), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:36 (twenty years ago) link

Search: THE HAUNTED PAINTING!!

Destroy: I dunno, nothing. I love all unexplained mysteries and phenomena. Especially PLANET X.

Mandee, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:43 (twenty years ago) link

Search: Rennes les Chateux, Oak Island, the submerged "lost city" found off the coast of Cuba

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:09 (twenty years ago) link

Isn't the world supposed to end in 2010 because of like, some CALENDAR THING?

Mandee, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:17 (twenty years ago) link

Search: Karl Pflock's book on Roswell and Saucer Smear
Destroy: pretty much all the rest.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:19 (twenty years ago) link

Oak Island is so fucking classic man!!!!

Also, the city of Mu off of Japan!

LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:21 (twenty years ago) link

Isn't the world supposed to end in 2010 because of like, some CALENDAR THING?

December 21, 2012 is when the Mayan calendar "resets" but even then folks can't agree on the correct date.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:22 (twenty years ago) link

Search: the crystal skulls

pete s, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:24 (twenty years ago) link

S: America's Stonehenge and pre-Columbian Europeans in the Americas

LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:26 (twenty years ago) link

s: hashima and pykrite.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:26 (twenty years ago) link

jon williams - you got any links on the lost city of mu?

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:29 (twenty years ago) link

Mu is sometimes called "Lemuria" by wackos researchers.

Mu means "nowhere" in Japanese and is used as a Zen idea I believe.

LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:33 (twenty years ago) link

[[for scotland alone, not really 'unexplained mysteries & phenomena' more like 'arcana and interesting day-trips' -

s: the ruined hamlet of wester sallochy [k-spooky the day I visited], subterannean glasgow, um there's lots of other stuff.]]

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:41 (twenty years ago) link

search: GONE TO CROATAN.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

er, that's CROATOAN

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:49 (twenty years ago) link

Search: seiche waves, ball lightning, the Taos Hum
Destroy: the Marfa Lights (sadly)

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 00:07 (twenty years ago) link

I was just about to mention the Marfa Lights!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 00:23 (twenty years ago) link

Anyway, there was an article in the NEW YORKER not too long ago that alleged that there have been numerous instances of unexplained phenomena (doors slamming, the sound of children crying coming from empty rooms, etc.) Chilling.

It was written with a distinctly skeptical, if not humorous, tone.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 02:36 (twenty years ago) link

I've just read about The Oak Island treasure hunt, it was fun.
They should try to dig with robots made by archeologists!

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

Elvis Telecom, that was awesome that you mentioned Saucer Smear. The book "Shockingly Close to the Truth" by Jim Mosely (the editor of Saucer Smear) and Karl Pflock and is a riot. I like Mosely's bemused and sketical take on the UFO community. I also like that he doesn't deny that under all the nonsense and craziness associated with UFO's that there is a real phenomenon worthy of study.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 02:48 (twenty years ago) link

destroy: orbs and ecto or any ghost photography

http://photos2.ghostweb.com/nick1.html

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 05:18 (twenty years ago) link

Oooh, can anyone tell me for certain whether or not the pyramid and razor blade myth is true or not? I can never be arsed to do teh experiment myself - I thought some of you inquisitve chaps might know teh answer!

Johnney B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 09:52 (twenty years ago) link

Now I'm trying to work out what a robot built by an archaeologist would look like. I have no idea, but I'm betting it wouldn't work very well. I can picture it wandering around shouting "it must be a ritual site", Dalek-style.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 10:53 (twenty years ago) link

Mu is sometimes called "Lemuria" by wackos researchers.

Mu was in the Pacific Ocean, Lemuria in the Indian, don't you people know anything?

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 11:07 (twenty years ago) link

Search:
The baghdad battery,
One I read in one of those unsolved book by Octopus (World Grebtest Unsolved mysteries) about a man who had been shot in bed, yet the room was locked from the inside and the gun was too far found too far away to have been suicide.

Destroy:
The Holy Blood and the Holy fucking Grail and Rennes-Le-bleedin chateau and Berengier bloody Sauniere
Colin Wilson and Damon Wilson

Confession - I used to read all thi9s stuff and was entranced by it, until one time I read a magazine that was being a credible then had a rep[ort from a conference where the reporter matter-of-factly noted that one session discussed a secr5et space elevator to the moon where JFK lived with Elvis, and didn't choose to comment that this was FUCKING INSANE and I distanced myself from this crazy world.

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:34 (twenty years ago) link

Dave, your first one sounds like an episode of Jonathan Creek. There must have been a secret other door, or a spooky twin or something. Or they did it with mirrors.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:39 (twenty years ago) link

baghdad batteries were used for electroplating. mysetery solved.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:44 (twenty years ago) link

I know - it kickstarted a fascination with locked-room mysteries that continues to this day. I wish I could remember the guy's name and then google it; sadly, I lent the book to someone I've lost touch with.

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

"about a man who had been shot in bed, yet the room was locked from the inside and the gun was too far found too far away to have been suicide."

wasn't it that some sort of snake from an above room was trained to shoot a gun and was let down through the vents?

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 14:15 (twenty years ago) link

Shot through the window.

NEXT!

Johnney B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 14:20 (twenty years ago) link

It was written with a distinctly skeptical, if not humorous, tone.

True, but I meant the concept of the Maritime being haunted by the ghosts of anguished child prostitutes chilling, not the article.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago) link

I've just had a grand time reading about the Orffyreus Wheel, woah is all I can say so far.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago) link

Spring Heeled Jack (not the band) and the Devil's Footprints in Devon! And the Bell Witch! Love this stuff.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:22 (twenty years ago) link

destroy: any sort of baked good resembling Jesus or Mother Theresa

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:24 (twenty years ago) link

why destroy Marfa Lights? (have not seen them yet)

Ask For Janice (thatgirl), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:31 (twenty years ago) link

Yeh, Spring Heeled Jack scared the living daylights out of me when I was little. (not the band) That's some scary shit.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

seventeen years pass...

ball lightning?

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Saturday, 25 December 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

mark I was sure this revive was gonna be about

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longyou_Caves

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Saturday, 25 December 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link

the ball lightning picture crossed my timeline and i've always liked it a lot so i posted it here

why bcz its so demented

mark s, Saturday, 25 December 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link

i was spurred by ilxor sleeve to hunt around for more info on the longyou caves but apart from some film of the actual pumping it seems like all the info currently released is contained on or linked to in the original thread: RFI: the very amazing and surprising man-made LONGYOU CAVES in zhejiang province in china

unless you count 1 x metric fvckton of "have you considered that these grottos were in fact dug out by aliens?"

mark s, Sunday, 26 December 2021 18:41 (two years ago) link

They are a manifestation of the profoundness of the Chinese nation.

https://www.yqqlm.com/2020/09/mystery-mystery-mystery-explore-the-mysterious-underground-world-and-witness-the-miracles-of-the-ancients/

StanM, Sunday, 26 December 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link

There are many water pools in the mountains, none of which is bottomless. Villagers call these pools ”bottomless ponds".

mark s, Sunday, 26 December 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link


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