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a friend recently traded a piece of his art to his liquor store distributor boss for a $750 bottle of Ardbeg that was as old as me. i'm 36. my friend shared and it was a landmark experience for me for real. that stuff got me high. oh man. imagine laphroaig but more deep than bright and complex beyond, well, what i'd imagined it could be at least. very round and simple finish though and left the tongue numb. oh man i want some more. sigh. mh, you wouldn't like this one though. if Laph is too peaty-islay, this one would turn you off.

oh, and this friend did have a bottle of the regular 10 or 12-yr ardbeg and it was good. but more $$ than laphroiag, the quality of which makes it kind of a bargain in comparison

andrew m., Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link

get g. dickel if you're looking for something not too expensive. i will rep for this whiskey non-stop

― mark cl, Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:19 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

cutty probably already everyone (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't even imagine what that tastes like xp

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i got bulleit. and some sazerac rye.
and regular and orange bitters.

tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i love scotch and whiskey with equal ventricles of my <3

A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link

john, that is fucking poetic.

tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i enjoy sazerac.

ian, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link

sazerac is one of my favs, just wish it was cheaper over her in the uk

just sayin, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 11:24 (fourteen years ago) link

i've yet to see sazerac in shops

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link

blanchard's in allston!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link

on the question you raise:

the only really nice scotch i've spent enough time with to really say anything about is laphroaig, which i love for v. specific reasons and want to drink once every couple months. i have had some of the more common single malts and they're nothing special. i do like dewar's and stuff as a cheapish sipping drink or highball drink--it's pretty smooth and tasty.

i do agree that bourbon/tennessee is prob a bit more agreeable to my palette overall. but i've also been enjoying canadian club recently so maybe i don't know what i'm talking about.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link

god i wish bulleit was broadly available in england

― thomp, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:36 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

it is! thresher's/wine rack stock it.

― joe, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:40 (1 month ago) Bookmark

My local Threshers closed down yesterday and I went in and bought a bottle of bulleit for 20% off. And then, as I was talking to the woman she was all "ah, fuck this company" and threw in another bottle for free!

May have been a shitty week but sometimes I love life.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

bulleit is really good imo

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

lots of cedar

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

there are few things better than free alcohol.

last night i finished off my Macallan 10yr (fine oak), which i've enjoyed very much. now looking for something similar, sweet not peaty, not really wanting to pay more than 35-40€. any tips?

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm trying to figure out my next bourbon purchase, suggestions?

prob don't want to spend more than $40, would maybe go up to like $45. want it to be really interesting - i have a really close friend/whiskey buddy who's been going through some rough financial times who's visiting in a few weeks and i want to have something really good on hand for him to try. dude needs some cheering up. what do you say?

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't really know single-malts all that well but do you like highland park? is that comparable at all to macallan 10

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link

have never tried highland park. i think it might be a bit more on the heavier, smokier side than what i'm looking for? seem to have some good stuff in my price range tho

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd just like to take a short moment to genuflect upon the wizened grimace of Old man Overholt. Mixes a finer Manhattan than any bourbon.

Drove away his head. (Derelict), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link

he makes a damn fine old-fashioned too

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

single malt classification:
http://www.whiskyclassified.com/classification.html

this must be what FAIL is really like (ledge), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Has anyone tried the Suntory/Yamazaki whiskies? I am curious but I don't know if that's just because lol japanese scotch

I thought I just posted this but it seems to have vanished. er

thomp, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link

i have always wanted to but they're a bitch to find

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i know one bar that has one of them but it's the kind of place where i would feel like a dork ordering that

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyone ever had Blanton's? Best bourbon I've ever tasted, hands down.

dan m, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

the japanese whiskies are real good apparently but yea i never see them either

just sayin, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

xp blanton's, no i haven't... ok yea i've seen it tho, cool bottle

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.winespecialist.com/ecart/img/productImages/blantons.JPG

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

how much does it run for?

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

McClelland's bottles a nice peaty, islay single malt that's pretty worthy for someone who wants Laphroiag-like flavor but doesn't want to pay for it all the time. It's available around here for under $25! it's the least expensive islay scotch i've seen available. recommended.

Of the other McClelland's single malts, I've had the highland variety, but you could go even cheaper and do better I think.

andrew m., Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

One of the Yamazakis has started showing up in Tesco. And there's a whisky shop here that stocks like four different variations.

Ha, according to that link McClelland is a subsidiary of a subsidiary of Suntory.

thomp, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp I've only seen Blanton's at one store around my house, and it was $54. $9 a glass at the bar. If I had a job it might almost be worth it.

dan m, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm thinking i might go w/ the michter's i saw in the shop the other day

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I did a favor for a friend and his parents, who dont drink anymore, gave me a gallon bottle of Chivas that they have had lying around for 40 years. It says 12 years old on the label, so its 52 years old. It's so goddamn smooth its dangerous.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

interesting, bill. that actually brings up a n00b question i was wondering about tho - does aging matter once the whiskey (or wine or whatever) is bottled? or is it only the barrel/cask aging that matters?

i.e. i know that the wood in the barrels are responsible for so much of the flavor and color, so once it leaves the barrel and is bottled, is still "aging" ("aging" as opposed to just, um, getting older)

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

okay yea i'm a dumbass - i just thought about wine cellars and all that so yea if it's stored properly it definitely continues to age

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I am not sure either. This is the first really old whiskey I've had. It's really smooth, there is almost an apple-like aftertaste to it. There is no bite at all.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006020304959

ian, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/61059

ian, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link

"authoritative"

ian, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link

fwiw last night i continued to drink the bottle of Jefferson's that DMR gave me.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2088/2320605840_56e2b78f18.jpg

ian, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Has anyone tried the Suntory/Yamazaki whiskies? I am curious but I don't know if that's just because lol japanese scotch

I had a Suntory once at Angel's Share in New York and liked it ok but I'm not really a Scotch guy, when I ordered it I thought it was bourbon. oops!

also anyone try michter's whiskeys? they've got a rye whiskey, a bourbon, and an unblended american whiskey.

michter's rye is good imo. drier and lacks that spiciness that Sazerac has (to me that's a good thing, altho I like sazerac too. your mileage may vary)

xpost - lol good timing

dmr, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

so apparently the bottle-aging does nothing for spirits, only the cask aging does. what about a bottle of wine in a cellar? on beer i've read some basic things like this http://beeradvocate.com/beer/101/store so i guess it varies between spirits/wine/beer?

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

wine is different, yes

generally I think if the wine bottle is corked properly then red wine will age and get better over time. if air gets in it will eventually turn to vinegar. I should leave this to someone who knows but I'm pretty sure that's the deal. white wine usually doesn't benefit from aging iirc

dmr, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i might go buy some liquor right now!

cutty probably already everyone (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

wine and beer def both age, i mean i don't really know what the fuck i'm talking about but i always just figured distilled spirits are kind of stable by the time they're bottled.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

right

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

this bourbon is so freakin good

http://www.whisky-pages.com/images/stagg-big.jpg

I think I even like it better than Booker's. super high proof but smooth.

dmr, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey, ive been proven wrong about my 50 year old chivas. Still tastes goddamn good though!!

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

this is a very, very good whiskey bar in downtown l.a.

http://www.sevengrand.la/

kind of a douchey scene, though.

omar little, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link


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