ok the dangerous teenage hug epidemic - another important new york times trend piece

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(I guess the Times's do tend to be more embarrassing, in our world, since they often have to do with trends of hipness or style)

nabisco, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link

wall street journal trend pieces tend to be WAY worse in my experience--i remember one from last winter about people who wear sneakers at the office--but i think they, uh, suffer from the subtle bigotry of low expectations

fleetwood (max), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Probably because the Times is the most prominent "serious" paper in the country they get more shit about bogus trend stories ... the SF Chronicle definitely has its fair share ...

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I do think it's getting more prevalent - and ilx isn't the only one noticing (http://www.slate.com/id/2225301/)

Whether the WSJ / other crappy newspapers do it more often than the Times doesn't particularly matter, and that certainly doesn't excuse the Times for doing it.

iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link

you get them in the UK, but they don't have this deadly serious capital-J journalism tone.

caek, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i think times just gets the most shit on ilx becuase its the only paper most of us read

fleetwood (max), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

and yeah the chron does it like crazy, but it also doesn't have a great reputation anymore. the nyt is still taken seriously, but if they don't put a lid on this stuff, it's gonna hurt their rep in the long term. this is the 2nd most read article on nyt.com.

iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

this is the 2nd most read article on nyt.com.

You realize this is why they keep publishing them, right?

jaymc, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link

right, well if the nyt wants to aim for page hits above uh, fact-based articles, they can do a lot better than this

iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

they're usually spottable insofar as their tone's just weaselly and anecdotal and question-filled, like "could these uncertain indicators and observations maybe suggest that possibly X? Bob Abernathy thinks so, though he admits that statistics are vague; here is an interesting story about some guy that does X and says all his friends do too"

nabisco, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

(the Heffernan absolutely does that, but I've always felt like a magazine column is the main spot that's acceptable)

nabisco, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link

in the print copy, it's pretty obv that there's a difference between the magazine and the newspaper, but the website doesn't particularly highlight that difference. I mean, it says 'magazine' on top, but I imagine 50% of the people who read this don't even know what the nyt magazine refers to.

iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link

but I imagine 50% of the people who read this don't even know what the nyt magazine refers to.

You don't?

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.xtcian.com/RonJodiIan2VAWed(bl).jpg

The walls between realities must be getting thin, bowtie guy is clearly alt-world Greg Kinnear.

brookedel, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 08:33 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Ladies and gentlemen

In her debut column, Virginia Heffernan writes about a series that explores both coal-mining narratives and reality TV.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/03/mining-reality/

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 April 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Welcome Back Virginia! A wonderful writer that truly understands the digital culture as well as the pop one, i followed 'Screens' & 'The Medium' , and was pleased to see your pic and news of this 'debut' column. Your voice has been missed in it's own space.

the pinefox, Monday, 4 April 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Perhaps the paywall went up so these people, including commenters, could be more readily isolated and contained.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 April 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

amazing picture with that story

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link


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