― jeffrey (johnson), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― bethune, Monday, 30 January 2006 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mike W (caek), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link
I really like The Age of Revolution. I love Hobsbawm's throwaway details, and his painting-with-broad-strokes style. Not for everyone though, I'm sure.
― Cathy (Cathy), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― TRG (TRG), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Nicholas Passant (Nicholas Passant), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― TRG (TRG), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't think these people are exactly Bush admin lackeys:
http://iraqbodycount.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=cffe318d74f5e5222e778f6f0517a744&submit3=Enter+Site
And I'm pretty sure they're including people killed by insurgents.
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Eek. No. He was. Really.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/itn/article/0,2763,184815,00.html
Some will say that Living Marxism won the "public relations battle", whatever that is. Others will cling to the puerile melodrama that ITN's victory in the high court yesterday was that of Goliath over some plucky little David who only wanted to challenge the media establishment.But history - the history of genocide in particular - is thankfully built not upon public relations or melodrama but upon truth; if necessary, truth established by law. And history will record this: that ITN reported the truth when, in August 1992, it revealed the gulag of horrific concentration camps run by the Serbs for their Muslim and Croatian quarry in Bosnia.
But history - the history of genocide in particular - is thankfully built not upon public relations or melodrama but upon truth; if necessary, truth established by law. And history will record this: that ITN reported the truth when, in August 1992, it revealed the gulag of horrific concentration camps run by the Serbs for their Muslim and Croatian quarry in Bosnia.
http://zope06.v.servelocity.net/hjs/sections/greater_europe/document.2005-11-21.8955930068
In 2003, the left-wing Swedish magazine Ordfront published an interview with Johnstone, which repeated her revisionist, genocide-denying views of the Bosnian war. This provoked massive outrage on the part of members of Ordfront’s editorial board and readers, leading to resignation of the editor and a public apology by the magazine for the pain it had caused to Bosnian genocide survivors.
― Mike W (caek), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― TRG (TRG), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link
Kronstadt.
― Nicholas Passant (Nicholas Passant), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― TRG (TRG), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link
I wonder do Gulag deniers and Holocaust deniers ever get together to recreate the Hitler-Stalin pact?
― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Nonetheless, you're talking about the total number of people killed as a result of an ill-considered and perhaps immoral military excursion, and even including the people killed by the insurgency the number is dwarved by what Stalin did.
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Oswald Mosely? He was pretty shoddy.
― Nicholas Passant (Nicholas Passant), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.joneslanglasalle.com/en-GB/
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
You'd have to compare death tolls as a percentage of the population. The 19th Century didn't do too bad: US Civil War; genocides of Native Americans, Australian Aborigines, Maoris; famine in Ireland; deaths brought about by industrialisation in various countries: disease, malnutrition, workplace accidents. Just off the top of my head that. Human beings have always been a lot better at killing each other than they are at looking after each other.
― The Man in the Iron-On Mask (noodle vague), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
extrapolation...tomorrow
― terry lennox. (gareth), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link
bringing about the workers' revolution by cratering the value of their houses!
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Man in the Iron-On Mask (noodle vague), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― truck-patch pixel farmer (my crop froze in the field) (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Dude did have some good soundbites.He also gave us a lot of stats to think about.
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link
(didn't stop him from trying, unfortunately) :-(
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 02:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link
'tmoftewc' was by the anti-stalinist e.p. thompson, you fucking poindexter.
― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 09:28 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Cathy (cathyleec...), January 30th, 2006.
... el hobsbo meantime very much IS a stalinist; he remained in the party after 1956. qed.
― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 09:30 (eighteen years ago) link
no wai; the whole thing is that there wasn't much to stalin -- no hitler, he. the russian revolution -- never a runaway success -- went bureaucratic and stalin was the helmsman. it's not down to his personality though.
― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 09:43 (eighteen years ago) link
I have often heard this comment attributed to Stalin, but always detached from any context or publication... does anyone have a reliable source for it?
― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 11:00 (eighteen years ago) link
http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/10126000/10126167.jpg
― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 11:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Venga (Venga), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link