stephen king c/d?

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It's right before they go to battle IT. I guess it's supposed to be like a weird giving-up-your-innocence-in-order-to-battle-ultimate-evil ritual.

Dude, I'm pretty sure it's after they think they've killed It. They get lost in one of the tunnels after and Bev instinctually decides to let them run a train so they could regain their bearings. Didn't bother me when I first read the book in middle school but now, YOW.

Has King ever been forced to discuss/defend this in an interview?

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

It's been a while since I've read the book, obviously. So maybe it's a way of bonding them all together? Or just King during one of his coked-up pervy moments?

i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

little from column a...little from column b

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

a lot from column "c" too if you catch my drift

i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

yah latebloomer gerald's game. (lol slocki). book was terrifying h8 the idea of being so helpless

jveggra va pbqr (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

ha I thought GG was boring and actually was the one that made me stop reading him cold turkey

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

eyes of the dragon being put into a filler list is SB temptation

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

My fave SK ever -- Eyes has all the good storytelling and none of the ethically quagmireish squick, as I recall, and a LOT of actually very memorable scenes, even if some slightly funny. Like the one with the tiny dollhouse loom and the room full of napkins....

The Lion's Mane Jellyfish, pictured here with its only natural predator (Laurel), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

it's pretty straight fantasy for king, and it's not my favourite, but i like it a lot. i like the tie-in to the dark tower, but i like those in any of his books that they appear in.

though it's maybe the opposite of the robert jordan situation- i sure wish he hadn't written the last three books of the dark tower, as they seemed hurried, rushed and frankly a big mess.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

A lot of King leaves me feeling like my brain needs a shower. I don't mind being scared but I don't want to feel soiled and made less "myself" by a book. Eyes is a good, gripping straight fantasy read with the characteristic SK pacing and characters and not so much jadedness. A++!

The Lion's Mane Jellyfish, pictured here with its only natural predator (Laurel), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost I disliked most of Gerald's Game, but there's a scene toward the end, where the main character is escaping in the car but keeps believing there is someone is in the car with her in the backseat, about to attack, that I always think of when I'm driving alone at night. Even some of Stephen King's worst books have their effective moments.

Sara R-C, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

You know, now that I think about it I think that Gerald's Game is the first book I ever put down without finishing.

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Whenever IT comes up in conversation, I always mention the WTF of the turtle and my wife always mentions the o_O of the preteen gangbang.

I keep meaning to do a little tour of the 70s novels but maybe a read of the novella/story collections would be the better option.

discovery witch has "provide you are reciptives" (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Read 'Salem's Lot immediately, that book is fantastic.

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

The Stand and The Shining are also awesome.

The earlier short story collections are amazing, too - Night Shift and Skeleton Crew.

Sara R-C, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ yes

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link

They're planning a big screen adaptation of It for 2011, apparently. Wonder if they'll readd the gangbang or the turtle (points to Dreamcatcher for actually including one of King's ridiculous Being Of Good Vs. Being Of Evil endings in a film)

the wikipedia description, for lols.

They finally come upon Its lair, where it resides in the form of a giant spider, and, in what appears to be the Ritual of Chüd, Bill injures It and It flees. Lost in the sewers, the Losers realize that they have lost their purpose as a group, their common enemy, and as a way to bring them together again so they can escape, Beverly has sexual intercourse with the boys.

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

That wiki description is what made me ask originally - one of those situations where you have to read a sentence multiple times.

ice cr?m paint job (milo z), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

trying to find an interview with king on google about "it" is damn hard

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

"Dreamcatcher" had the worst ending I have ever seen in a film.

this made me curious, so I looked it up:

[So, uh, SPOILER ALERT, then??] Henry and Owen arrive at the home of Duddits (Donnie Wahlberg), who reveals that Mr. Gray is headed for a reservoir to pollute the water with a Weasel. Arriving at the reservoir, Owen is ambushed by Curtis' helicopter. Owen shoots Curtis down, but dies from his wounds. Henry takes Owen's weapon and kills Mr. Gray's Weasel. Duddits confronts Mr. Gray, who finally comes out of Jonesy's body. Duddits turns into an alien creature himself and attacks, causing both aliens to explode in a cloud of red dust which briefly resembles a dreamcatcher. Jonesy, now back to normal, smashes a final larva that was about to contaminate the water. The world is saved.

ha ha, wut?

Pillbox, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

and as a way to bring them together again so they can escape, Beverly has sexual intercourse with the boys.

and as a way to bring them together again so they can escape, Beverly has sexual intercourse with the boys.

and as a way to bring them together again so they can escape, Beverly has sexual intercourse with the boys.

and as a way to bring them together again so they can escape, Beverly has sexual intercourse with the boys.

and as a way to bring them together again so they can escape, Beverly has sexual intercourse with the boys.

and as a way to bring them together again so they can escape, Beverly has sexual intercourse with the boys.

i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

so many lols, so little time

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I am going to try this out next time I need to escape from something. I'll let you guys know how it works.

A Foul Night-Weird (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Mr. Gray is headed for a reservoir to pollute the water with a Weasel.

Henry takes Owen's weapon and kills Mr. Gray's Weasel.

So, at the outset, Mr. Gray intends to pollute the water with a LIVING weasel?

Also LOL @ capitalization of weasel.

discovery witch has "provide you are reciptives" (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

The "Weasel" is the alien thing that kills people by exploding out of their asses.

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

OK, shit, that is def. worth a capital W.

discovery witch has "provide you are reciptives" (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

ha ha, wut?

― Pillbox, Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:52 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

What they don't tell you is right after that, the Henry character simply says "Jonesy!" and THEN the movie ends.

i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

incredible film, imo

i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

the book is basically a silly frankenstein mashup of everything king had written to that point.

it ends up coming across as even more ridiculously batshit when adapted to the screen.

i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I will admit that everything I've heard about the movie has made me want to read the book more.

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

serious, actual mega-lols here HD & JL.

Pillbox, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

What they don't tell you is right after that, the Henry character simply says "Jonesy!" and THEN the movie ends.

― i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:00 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

me and my friend have a running joke about this... before we even saw it we loved that line from teh trailer... the way he says it so lovingly... its amazing

'steen suicide (don't drive it) (s1ocki), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I've gotta see this movie.

Pillbox, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

The orchestral score by JN Howard is pretty fun (tho not up with Howard's best).

(It's stupid how many genre films I haven't seen but have listened to their scores umpteen times...)

discovery witch has "provide you are reciptives" (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

dreamcatcher and the mist are probably my favorite king adaptations in a sense, cuz they're the only ones that FEEL crazy in that special stephen king way. all the others are just turned into hacky thrillers or taken over by an auteur's stylistic choices.

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Is it on Watch Instantly? (I can't look bcuz parent company filters NetFlix)

discovery witch has "provide you are reciptives" (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

neither are streamed on netflix, no

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

dreamcatcher and the mist are probably my favorite king adaptations in a sense, cuz they're the only ones that FEEL crazy in that special stephen king way. all the others are just turned into hacky thrillers or taken over by an auteur's stylistic choices.

― da croupier, Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:08 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ya for sure... dreamcatcher is so beautifully nuts.

'steen suicide (don't drive it) (s1ocki), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

while we're one the subject of crazy-ass king plots, sadly the "faithful" 12-minute short film of The Lawnmower Man from 1987 does not appear to be on youtube.

In Stephen King's short story, Harold Parkette hires "Pastoral Greenery and Outdoor Services Inc." to cut his lawn. Yet a mystery surrounding the service is that no one has ever seen the person who owns and operates the enterprise. Parkette decides to find out the identity of the mysterious lawnmower man. In the earliest hours of morning he discovers the strange and horrible truth. The serviceman is not a service "man" at all but a strange inter-dimensional being that takes the form of a symbiotic organism, a machine that mows the lawn by itself while a strange naked man follows behind the mower, eating the grass. The serviceman has the appearance of a satyr who works for the Greek god Pan. The event is terrifying and beyond the comprehension and intellect of Parkette. In a panic he tries to call the police, but it is too late, and the mower and its human slave violently turn on him.

King got $10,000 a day when New Line ignored a court order to remove his name from that rumination on virtual reality starring pierce brosnan

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I remember being very confused when I saw the movie "The Lawnmower Man" after reading the book.

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

i just remember somethign about green pubes from that story

'steen suicide (don't drive it) (s1ocki), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

imagine being so successful that you could put a pre-teen sex romp at the end of a 1,000+ page best seller and NOBODY SEEMS TO NOTICE FOR OVER A DECADE

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

and yeah green pubes was the lingering image i had too

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

The best thing about that is that the train happens TWICE; once when they first confront IT as kids and once when they vanquish him as adults.

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link

lol no it doesn't

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

IIRC, they all have sex again in order to get out of the cavern, as part of the "recreate the past as closely as possible" thing they were doing to get rid of IT in the first place. I'd need to look it up in the book, though.

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

nah, eddie's dead and they basically just split. though it'd be great if bill was like "oh shit, looks like we're lost in the sewers again, bev. let me just put my catatonic wife down over here..."

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

nah, she never had sex with them again the second time.

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

xpst she has a flashback to it while shagging bill as an adult

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay why do I have such a clear recollection of them doing all that nonsense again, then??? Probably I was yelling at the end of the book by that point and made that up, and it stuck as an actual memory of the book.

xpost: oh maybe that's what I'm remembering

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link


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