2008 Primaries Thread

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Hillary needs a "Where's the beef?" moment.

jaymc, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

WTF. Mondale ran in 84. Dukakis ran in 88.

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link

In 1984, Reagan was running for re-election and he could not have been more popular. Bush can't run again, and everyone wants to shit down his neck.

Thanks anyway, M.

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link

hart was a primary contender in '84, which mondale eventually won, and went on to lose spectacularly to reagan.

hart was again a primary contender in '88, when a sex scandal sank him. dukakis went on to fame and fortune as a paroler of rapist murderers, and lost to GHWB.

gff, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Hillary needs a "Where's the beef?" moment.

like this?

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link

NEED MORE ANCIENT ANALOGIES

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Hillary needs a Bonnie Tyler moment

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

If Michigan and Florida hold emergency re-do primaries, Clinton would probably still win, right?

Even when she was the only candidate on the ballot, HRC only got 56% of the vote in Michigan so I doubt she'd do anywhere near that well in a re-do situation.

Nicole, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I have no idea what some of you fuxors are confused about, but it's not like it's an unusual state of affairs...(Mackro added to dicklist)

I read somewhere that Hillary already has said "Where's the beef"!

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link

you have a dicklist?

gff, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link

ew

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link

When Morbs gets mad
When he gets pissed...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link

...he grabs his pen
And he writes out a list

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.beans-around-the-world.com/photos/scenter6.jpg

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I am reminded of this thread:

Well, well, well: Jess (Strongo), James (Nnn Oooh) and Trife - I'm making your cards.

Nicole, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Top Hillary Supporter Says Some Whites In Pennsylvania "Are Not Ready" To Support Black Candidate:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/top_hillary_supporter_obama_wi.php

^^i can't imagine how saying this could help the HRC camp. i mean, whether or not it's true, no one likes being called a racist.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

x-post -- It DOES all make sense now!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

hart was a primary contender in '84, which mondale eventually won, and went on to lose spectacularly to reagan.

hart was again a primary contender in '88, when a sex scandal sank him. dukakis went on to fame and fortune as a paroler of rapist murderers, and lost to GHWB.

Ah, yes. Good times.

Dr. M, who's on your list?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

a kiss!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Obama is wack.

Colin_C., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Ambinder forwards this, about the vote whether or not to grant telecoms retroactive immunity for their their cooperation in making the end-run around FISA:

Sen. Obama voted to strip it (so, he voted for no immunity).
Sen. McCain voted not to strip the amendment (voted for immunity).
Sen. Clinton did not vote.

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link

ZOMG hillz voted present!1?!! LOLL

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Greenwald must be in a froth.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Obama is wack.

Not just wack: Wiggity wiggity wiggity whack.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link

He's wack sauce on a pita.

Colin_C., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Obama is the Dane Cook of politics.

Colin_C., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

...

sleep, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha wtf plz to defend yr assertion

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^^ This. I was being facetious. Colin doesn't seem to be.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I knew Gary Hart (not personally, of course) and Barack Obama is no Gary Hart. Obama can move crowds with the power of speech. Hart was pretty lackluster by comparison.

Aimless, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, maybe on my own here, but he reminds me of Dane Cook or Oprah.

People who have good resumes or on the surface have everything going for them, and are LOVED by the masses, but you can tell after hearing them talk for five minutes, or looking at them that they are full of shit.

Dane Cook in a room of college students holding up the shocker=Obama in a room full of college students holding up signs that say "change".

Colin_C., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

this thread needed a david brooks

m bison, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link

"holding up the shocker"?

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

you can tell after hearing them talk for five minutes, or looking at them that they are full of shit

I find it hard to tell that people are full of shit just by looking at them. Unless they're wearing an "I am full of shit" t-shirt or something. That's okay though. You probably have special powers.

All I have to go on is Obama's voting record, public speaking and published writing. The "full of shit" thing isn't so evident there.

contenderizer, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLVN3Trs5VQ

New Obama spot, which might be the sharpest political tv ad I've ever seen made.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link

lol

I don't know man...

I just don't like Obama. You don't have to go likening me to David Brooks.

I'd like to see Hillary somehow win but oh well...

Colin_C., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link

"holding up the shocker"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shocker_(hand_gesture)

jaymc, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link

so basically your analogy is: they are both popular and you don't like either of them?

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link

When I was nineteen I stole golf carts and watched reruns of Alf.

-- Colin_C., Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:11 PM

gff, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^ colin i think you ARE dane cook

gff, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I disagree, I think that you can tell a lot from someone's body language...

Including signs that they are full of it.

Colin_C., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:32 (sixteen years ago) link

i think you're a dipshit troll who needs to stfu and gtfo

i can tell by what you are posting

gff, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Colin: HRC IS COMING ON STRONG JUST ASK HER SUPPORTERS ON THIS THREAD STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE GOV'T PLZ.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

No, my analogy was they are people who know how to play to the masses, while not really being genuine.

Colin_C., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay...

Colin_C., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Can't we disagree without me being a troll?

Colin_C., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Is the "C" for "controversial"?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, we can, Colin, and we need more HRC/GOP supporters on this thread, I think (they enliven the conversation). Seriously, Obama's as deep on policy issues as HRC is. She's a bit wonkier in delivering her message, but he's no slouch in that regard, either. The fact that he is a hypnotic, powerful speaker shouldn't be held against him.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link

(See, e.g., last Democratic debate in California).

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link

who is the jim gaffigan of politics?

ron paul is the doug stanhope of politics

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link


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