Seinfeld: Classic or Dud

as a i wrote on the streaming thread, i agree with this comment on the NYT comments thread for the bizzare positive review that the NYT gave it:

Chris C
Chicago, IL 3h ago

"Unfrosted" has been widely described as one of the worst movies of the *decade*.

To find out for myself, I watched it. My jaw was on the floor. It truly is the worst movie I've ever seen. It's so *lazy.* It's like Seinfeld rolled in every morning at 10, talked through his scenes, did no second takes, then left at 4. Even his narration was the flat, affect-less reading of a blasé high schooler reading aloud to the class.

I was amazed that not a single joke made me laugh. It wasn't so unfunny that I was laughing for the wrong reasons; it was so unfunny that I found myself *silently studying it.* I was oddly enthralled by the utter blandness and poor quality of the writing, acting, and filming. I don't want to give the impression I was entertained -- merely fascinated.

I recommend watching the film yourself, then reading this review. No offense to Ms. Nicholson... I guess it's brave to be the only professional critic in the industry who gave the movie a good review. Truly baffling. Had she watched this after waking up from surgery? For the life of me, I honestly can't imagine a single person watching this movie and calling it a "Critic's Choice." This review is almost as fascinating as the movie.

It wasn't so unfunny that I was laughing for the wrong reasons; it was so unfunny that I found myself *silently studying it.* I was oddly enthralled by the utter blandness and poor quality of the writing, acting, and filming. I don't want to give the impression I was entertained -- merely fascinated.

maybe this is too much of a tenuous 'it's bad on purpose' type argument, but aren't 'silently studying it' 'oddly enthralled by the utter blandness and poor quality' and 'not entertained but merely fascinated' all very Seinfeldinan reactions, typical of how/why Seinfeld is fascinated by pop tarts in the first place? Maybe the film gives you a chance to experience what it's like seeing the world through the eyes of Jerry Seinfeld. I did read another review somewhere (on Letterboxd maybe) in which someone claimed to have been at a preview where Jerry himself was in the audience and was the only one laughing at most of the jokes.

while I was watching it I thought of Purple Toupee by They Might Be Giants, and that maybe you could see it as someone garbled childhood memories of the 1960s, so big world events like the space race and the Cuban missile crisis become mixed up with stuff like Pop Tarts and old kids toys and daydreams, and that's kind of how you remember your childhood?(maybe filtered again through movie representations you saw later). Or something like Alice in Wonderland where you have this parody of the adult world seen from the perspective of a child, where the adult world is both ridiculous and menacing with all these incompressible games and competitions.

the opening shot of the various items the kid is carefully laying out in the bindle before he runs away from home - a slinky, a Gold Key Woody Woodpecker comic book, a GI Joe - I definitely remember being a kid and being fascinated by various objects like this, just sitting there examining them, it seems like this is how Seinfeld felt about pop tarts? (and at the end, after pop tarts are a hit he fulfils his dream and gets a sod grass lawn, like this is the adult equivalent)

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that's how long i have lived with boomer daydreams. since 1973!

Maybe the film gives you a chance to experience what it's like seeing the world through the eyes of Jerry Seinfeld. I did read another review somewhere (on Letterboxd maybe) in which someone claimed to have been at a preview where Jerry himself was in the audience and was the only one laughing at most of the jokes.

It's an interesting one, because everyone is always telling writers not to try and chase an audience, rather to be true to themselves and write about what they're interested in, and the authenticity will attract the right audience. And there are a lot of comedians who are happy with being weird and not caring what people think of them, really. I just never thought of Jerry Seinfeld as one of those comedians.

Jerry Seinfeld taught me it was okay to be weird

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scott otm, i couldn’t get through unfrosted and i’m a shameless seinfeld apologist

i just remember thinking: dude, you are supposed to be the expert comedy technician who studies the history and knows everything about comedy and is a master of the game or whatever how could you watch the dailies and think this was in any way funny and how could the TIMING of the thing be so awkward and stilted? master of the game, remember!!??
but he couldn't hear me. he was too busy hyping it on every show on earth. what a sucky thing to have to hype for weeks on end.

remember Bee Movie

He was legitimately great at this on Seinfeld though, something that really defines that show for me is how most episodes end on a good joke rather than trying to wrap anything up

I just searched 'Unfrosted' on twitter to see if I was maybe off-base with my impression that it's getting a mostly negative reaction and after scrolling through dozens of people hating on it the first positive comment is from someone whose profile says they own over 2300 Funko Pops lol (including/plus "300 + grails")

Kurt Pickard
Murfreesboro, TN 2h ago

"Unfrosted" is a true delight, especially for those of us who grew up during that era. For those who didn't, I can see where some of the nuanced humor gets lost. No bloody violence, foul language, sex or computer graphics. The casting is superb and we need to keep a special eye on Eleanor Sweeney. Everyone in the house can lean back in the recliner and enjoy some good natured fun. How uncommon is that these days? Jerry Seinfeld hit this movie out of the park and should be nominated for an Oscar's Oscar. My only complaint is that Larry David was noticeably absent.

no bloody violence, foul language, sex or computer graphics 👎🏽

it does have that Gus Grissom joke though, which has divided even fans of the film

@JerrySeinfeld I very much enjoyed Unfrosted. I would be pleased if you would consider removing the name of Gus Grissom from the movie. It's not appropriate. Also, FYI - IBM is not responsible for Univac. Of course Chef Boy-are-dee had noting to do with Pop Tarts either. :)

— ReadandRight (@ReadandRight999) May 10, 2024

The casting is superb and we need to keep a special eye on Eleanor Sweeney.

assuming that this was the girl who played one of the two kids who appear at various points throughout the film, she was really eerily good

That Kurt Pickard review reminds me of those Walter Monheit blurbs in Spy Magazine back in the day. (In fairness it should be pointed out that the Spy Magazine TV Special in the late 80's was ably hosted by a young Jerry Seinfeld.)

Ha I thought the movie was funny -- Austin Powers-esque zaniness. I have to admit I'm a cereal fanatic, so humour involving Battle Creek, MI, and niacin is up my alley.

Some side bits were amazingly unfunny, but it's hardly the worst thing put out by Netflix this month, let alone decade.

We had a "wellbeing at work" webinar at work today, and I was pleased to see this very famous quote by Jerry Seinfeld appear in one of the slides. (The speaker pronounced his name as "Jerry Seenfelt")

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"So how come I feel so tired when I go to the gym? What's that about?"

Unfrosted was very dumb but that felt like it was the point. I laughed quite a bit at at it.

I keep seeing people say that Unfrosted was like one of the ridiculous fictional movies from 30 Rock, which seems fair, only they mean it as a bad thing, imo it was like that in a good way.

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