Bernard Manning Has Died

Not really tho. To me a liberal is someone just slightly to the left of a Tory.

I was going to add a comment on the mail's site, but I couldn't be arsed, which sez it all wrt my opinion on manning, I suppose.

remember his appearance on Mrs Merton? he was arrogant and obnoxoious of course but he still managed to outsmart them really. Ahearne seemed angered by his behaviour afterwards, maybe frustrated that she didn't manage to show him up as perhaps intended (why would you invite him on otherwise? clearly she was not a fan). he didn't need other people to make him look a pillock tho innit.

-- blueski, Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:53 AM (Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:53 AM) Bookmark Link

This the same Mrs Merton show in which she said that many non-whites in this country were born here and were therefore British and he said something along the lines of "Jesus was born in a stable but we don't call him a fuckin horse"?

In what way did he outsmart them?

Richard Wilson was the other guest on that wasn't he - he didn't try and be funny so much as just be all "yr an idiot", which probably worked in his favour

Anyone see Jim Bowen being interviewed about Manning by Gavin Esler on Newsnight? Good old Jim!

i found out yesterday, while working at an awards show, and my thumbs instinctively turned upwards in a fonzie-esque 'eyyyyyy' gesture.

i was woken at 8 this morning, after 2 hours' sleep, to hear the retards on the bbc breakfast telly reading out emails they'd received, all along the 'he was funny and he was brave, people are too sensitive' variety, and the woman earnestly inviting viewers to write in if they had an opinion. i'm bored shitless of opinions, and i'm glad he's dead.

i'm bored shitless of opinions, and I'm glad he's dead.

This is how Nazi Germany ended.

That was Eva Braun's last words, folks!

In what way did he outsmart them?

he didn't lose his cool unlike co-guest Richard Wilson (who looked pretty silly trying to reason with or get one up on him). he was probably annoyed that he'd been treated so badly by them afterwards (not much sympathy here of course) but he was probably still the least agitated person involved in the whole thing at the end of it. they got him on the show to embarrass him but it didn't really work - it's not as if it did his reputation any further harm really.

what did Jim Bowen say?

I expect he praised him in the same way Stan Boardman and pretty much all the stand-ups of their generation have done. A lot of them probably retain a big 'don't speak ill of the dead, at least not in public' thing that has been lost on generations since (not too bothered about this myself) - not that this matters much when most of them would agree with his attiude overall.

He kept calling Gavin Esler, Gavin, and to demonstrate that you can tell jokes about anyone and anything told him a Scottish joke:

"Look, Gavin, it's like this... I could say, for instance, that one day Gavin Esler dies and goes to heaven and you reach the gate, Gavin, and St. Peter says, 'Clear off, we're not making porridge for one'"

This is how Nazi Germany ended.

godwin inversion!!

From that daily mail page

A great comedian - shame there aren't more of them to put the PC brigade and the Metropolitan elite in their place. God Bless.

- John Bush, London, UK

Now that man should get a Knighthood - not Rushdie.

- Joe De Hoop, Brighton, Sussex

i guess it shows he was loved by some south of Watford too.

the Metropolitan elite

Who they?

He means YOU, Tom.

I thought he meant Jews

You can't give knighthoods to dead people, durr...

Unless he meant John Bush.

re. mrs merton -- would the characters in 'the royle family' like bernard manning?

He wasn't that popular, he hadn't been on the telly for years and his act hadn't changed either

but enough about eddie izzard...

um, wasn't Manning Jewish?

Anyway I never forgave him for publicly traducing Peter Cook (who was sitting next to him) on the Joan Rivers Show in the mid-eighties with remarks of the calibre of "You used to be very funny, Peter" and (to camera) "He's lost his timing. I work every night, you see."

I think he was Jewish, but I imagine John Bush, London, UK wasn't aware of that fact

I expect he praised him in the same way Stan Boardman and pretty much all the stand-ups of their generation have done

I was listening to Jim Davidson phoning into the Jeremy Vine Show earlier, saying that Manning wasn't racist because he didn't think he was racist, rather he just thought he was funny because he made people laugh.

So, yeah, we're rid of Manning, now for the rest of the fucktards that think asking a black audience memeber if they're enjoying their night out in the comedy club because it makes a difference from swinging from trees funny, the ones that kept Bernard Manning in a job for so many more years than was ever necessary.

(not that I'm defending the first half of Davidson's argument at all, but there's a glimmer of a point in the second part - if no-one laughed, surely he and his ilk would just give up?)

Manning left the country???

Anyway I never forgave him for publicly traducing Peter Cook (who was sitting next to him) on the Joan Rivers Show

(xp) I actually thought the subtext of that was "You used to be very funny Peter - what are you doing wasting your time with this shit". Which was fair comment.

I watched it at the time and it seemed much more snide rather than admonitory, but fair enough, Ms Rivers didn't exactly give PC much to do (sometimes having enough FUCK YOU money can work against a performer)...

Ailsa xpost: well, Andy Cameron's still going...

now for the rest of the fucktards that think asking a black audience memeber if they're enjoying their night out in the comedy club because it makes a difference from swinging from trees funny, the ones that kept Bernard Manning in a job for so many more years than was ever necessary.

you'd think black people would stop going to the gigs after that many years!

A bit like David Cameron liking the Smiths innit.

I just figured "metropolitan elite" referred to london cultural stranglehold over uk.

I'm wary of generalisation wrt uk/northern working class, b/c I AM ONE, but I remember Manning turning up on I think "OTT" which'll have been late '70's/early '80's and my mother leaping up to turn the TV over before he even opened his mouth, I asked her what it was all about - she was disgusted both by him and his act. We were a bit like the Royles, but a little more pretentious/upmarket, maybe.

I don't recall any of my aunties & uncles liking manning's steez either, they all thought he was repulsive. My father in law thinks chubby brown is funny, but thought manning was beyond the pale.

One thing that annoyed me reading that mail comments page was all those bellends making out that manning represented northern WC humour. I'm northern WC, so are most of my IRL friends. I think manning was a hateful, unfunny shit, or at least his act was that. I can't remember anyone I know ever, ever expressing any appreciation for the guy. What a load of fucking bollocks.

David Cameron, Andy Cameron - Which Cameron Makes You Laugh Most?

The Pash OTM

you guys are obsessed with Cameron

Well he did release two of the most memorable football songs ever

True Lies was a stinker tho

What Pash said.

Cameron made a football record? I thought the only ball game he knew was the Eton Wall game.

Also, re that tirade against Peter Cook. I didn't know pete was "in character"!!

Farewell and god bless to a real comedian. He only put into words what we wanted to hear, jokes about present day life. If that meant immigrants or sexual deviants then so be it, that is life.
A PC comedian is as funny as paint drying, we need to laugh about things to stop them from getting us down.

- John, Tendring, England

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=462884&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments

OTT discussion/reminiscences conspicuously absent from Tiswas Revisited prog.

CONSPIRACY OF JOHN

xxp
r these people living in 1990

It's a cop out to say that because you tell jokes about everyone equally your material should not be deemed as offensive. Like it or not Bernard Manning's humour did appeal more to the bigoted than anyone else although they would be the last to acknowledge their bigotry.

- Kathy Jones, Herts, England

OTT discussion/reminiscences conspicuously absent from Tiswas Revisited prog.

-- Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:03 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

Yes, I was wondering about that myself.

Manning's act was also really dated in race terms: lots of jokes about first generation black (Carribean, I suppose) immigrants, no material about asylum seekers or Poles. If you can't even be bothered to keep your racism up to date...

Indeed, he was past it years ago, like 15 years ago

It's like Freddie Starr surviving for 40 years on the same 40-year-old act, i.e. his Jagger will always be "Not Fade Away" and so on and so forth. His relative lack of exposure on TV (doing his act, as opposed to appearing on chat shows) probably worked in Manning's favour since he behaved exactly like the music hall acts of the pre-TV era, ceaselessly working the country with the same ten-minute act for decades.

you'd think black people would stop going to the gigs after that many years!

The thing Ailsa is referring to, IIRC, was a coppers' night out, so dude probably didn't have much choice. The unexpurgated version of it is... eye-opening, I daresay it's online somewhere

not as funny as the time the BNP booked that black DJ for one of their do's.