2008 Primaries Thread

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did it all for the nuckabee

deej, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 06:01 (sixteen years ago) link

that yo nucka, b?

tremendoid, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 06:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Seriously, I can't get over that Tyrabee photo.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 06:08 (sixteen years ago) link

you can learn a lot about their sex lives from that photo.

Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 06:19 (sixteen years ago) link

<3 <3 <3

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 06:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw Dan Savage give a talk tonight and he wore a Huckabee t-shirt.

Eazy, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 06:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Is that a broadcaster or a telecaster that she has?

in related news, from Sept 2007:

http://weblogs.variety.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/28/barack_tyra_2.jpg

Obama is tempted by the Goblin King, apparently

kingfish, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 06:48 (sixteen years ago) link

can we just stop for a moment, just a moment, and appreciate the cast of characters on display in this election? This is the stuff of legend.

tremendoid, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 08:25 (sixteen years ago) link

o damn i just found out my cousin is a superdelegate

max, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 08:42 (sixteen years ago) link

hes the dude in that clip ^^ former gore staffer

max, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 08:48 (sixteen years ago) link

can we just stop for a moment, just a moment, and appreciate the cast of characters on display in this election?

"The 2008 Presidential Election"

Starring:

Oprah Winfrey
Chuck Norris
A Bunch Of Politicians
Rudy Giuliani
Tyra Banks
Chauncey Billups
The Clinton Family
a single mother raising 9 kids in South Carolina
Wolf Blitzer
Donnie and Marie Osmond
Dead Kennedys
Martin Luther King
guy from Law & Order
The Grateful Dead
featuring George Allen as "Macaca"
and a cast of thousands of Paultards

Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 09:07 (sixteen years ago) link

hahah, great thread. much agreed on the topic. seen this btw? http://www.5min.com/Video/Obama-with-a-Twist-by-Balloon-Artist-Ori-Livney-5714494

occamsrazor, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 09:08 (sixteen years ago) link

*ahem* Martin Luther King Jr.

Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 09:13 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, much agreed on the topic too!

max, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 09:14 (sixteen years ago) link

take obama
his stirring oratory belies his (somewhat benign) opaqueness on certain matters.

tremendoid, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 09:20 (sixteen years ago) link

just writing newspaper bylines here.

tremendoid, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 09:22 (sixteen years ago) link

All in one NYTimes article:

Obama fund-raisers say he is taking in roughly $1 million a day, while Clinton fund-raisers say she is taking in about half of that, mostly online. Mrs. Clinton’s aides say that the campaign was virtually broke as of the Feb. 5 primaries, but that finances have stabilized.
...
Mr. Obama’s financial edge allowed him to begin running television advertisements in Ohio and Texas on Monday, while the Clinton campaign plans to begin advertising on Tuesday
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Asked if that message was sinking in, (Hassan Nemazee, a national finance chairman for Clinton) pointed to the campaign’s announcement that Mrs. Clinton had raised $10 million online so far this month, and was on pace to raise more than $25 million in February.

“I predict for you we will have our best single fund-raising month in February, and that’s significant,” he said.

G00blar, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 11:32 (sixteen years ago) link

All in one NYTimes article:

I'm guessing you say that because you're amazed so much non-information could be in one story?

kenan, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link

The Dems were able to move in a pretty coherent way in the midterm elections, for instance

And look at the paradise they've brought us since!

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

So the Obama Hope-Quarters Substation in downtown Providence is still barely set up -- there were only a couple people using laptops, folding tables & chairs, and a few boxes of supplies. There was a big sign that said "HOPE" in the window with the Obama logo in the 'O,' but I can appreciate that because the RI state motto is "Hope."

Anyway, I got a bumper sticker and a button in exchange for my address, and spoke briefly with a staffer. No kool-aid.

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

morbius, the TWO COPRPORATE POLITICAL PARTIES are THREATENING TO FISSURE along lines of BROKERED LOYALTY, why aren't you celebrating???

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link

he's too busy organizing pressure groups amongst neighborhood youth, flyering busy corners and planning demonstrations voting for ralph nader

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

bah

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

haha, the parties' paymasters wuill win the day, there won't be any fissuring.

I will forego voting before I vote for a future Nader candidacy.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm guessing you say that because you're amazed so much non-information could be in one story?

More the acrobatic positioning of the Clinton staffers trying to portray the candidacy as both a) strapped for cash (and thus the underdog) and b) doing quite well with donations (and thus a horse worth betting on).

G00blar, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

As laughed at sufficiently way above, I know.

G00blar, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

. There was a big sign that said "HOPE" in the window with the Obama logo in the 'O,' but I can appreciate that because the RI state motto is "Hope."

I wonder what the screaming lobster of Hope thinks of this.

Nicole, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link

oh morbs, you and your kooky misunderstanding of checks and balances.

Eppy, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

and your desire for democratic politics to conform entirely to the opinions of a small segment of the population.

Eppy, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link

so for anyone paying attention to RI and where its 32 delegates will go (i.e. nobody) there was only one poll conducted recently:

Clinton 36%
Obama 27%

this is out of 474 likely dem voters, which would imply a pretty wide margin of error, and has so many folks undecided or uncommitted, it's hard to deduce anything from this other than the fact that clinton does have an advantage here.

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Eppy, would that be the majority segment who wanted to vote us out of the war in Nov '06?

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm kinda enjoying the shenanigans currently going on due to the WA GOP results for this weekend, where are the schmucks who went on about "voter fraud" and endless recounts in the 2004 governor election are now turning on each other.

kingfish, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

lol Derbyshire splutters:

All this emoting over Barack Obama's wonderful, wonderful personality is starting to trigger my gag reflex.

What are we electing here, a faith healer? What is Obama's view of the executive power? How, exactly, does he propose to "bring us together"? Just by being half-black? What if I don't want to be "brought together" with radical socialists who want to jack up my taxes and shut down my freedoms of speech, property, and association? What will Obama do? Steve Sailer has been documenting the astonishing — for a guy with Obama's résumé — absence of any paper trail for Obama's thoughts, ideas, and opinions. There's just his autobiography, which is unreadable (I tried), and The Audacity of Hope which I guess (I didn't try — you can only ask so much of a guy) urges us all to be really audacious and hope a lot.

Is Obama just an empty suit, who never had a thought about anything, other than his own amazing wonderfulness, in his entire life? What, for example, does he think about conservatism? Modern American conservatism is a huge and various body of thought, with many mansions. Has Obama explored it? I'll lend him my Nash if he wants to make a start. Heck, I have read Kolakowski all the way through, all three volumes; has Obama read Hayek? Buckley? Kirk?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

all ive got to go on are these books i didnt read!

jhøshea, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.obamaiswinning.com/

'unaffiliated' site pushing the idea that superdelegates should not be counted in determining the delegate leader

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

That NYT article sounds more and more to me like a contrived stort, allowing HRC to get the upper-hand in the ''expectations game.'' Of course, if she has -- as many expected a few months ago -- wrapped up the nomination by the end of Super Tuesday, there would be no need to managing expectations through February.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link

That NYT article sounds more and more to me like a contrived stort, allowing HRC to get the upper-hand in the ''expectations game.''

Yup. There's one on Slate too. Reporters love to write them because they write themselves.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I was talking to a friend at the gym last night who's honestly split between Obama, Clinton, & McCain. She thinks she's going to vote for Hilary in the primary but is going to go hear Barack speak tonight to give him a shot. I can't recall meeting anyone (my age, anyway) so genuinely undecided.

Jordan, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

samantha bee to thread

gff, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link

That NYT article sounds more and more to me like a contrived storty, allowing HRC to get the upper-hand in the ''expectations game.'' Of course, if she hasd -- as many expected a few months ago -- wrapped up the nomination by the end of Super Tuesday, there would be no need to managinge expectations through February.

Fixed. I have to stop posting via cell phone. Too many typos.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Is Obama just an empty suit, who never had a thought about anything, other than his own amazing wonderfulness, in his entire life? What, for example, does he think about conservatism? Modern American conservatism is a huge and various body of thought, with many mansions. Has Obama explored it? I'll lend him my Nash if he wants to make a start. Heck, I have read Kolakowski all the way through, all three volumes; has Obama read Hayek? Buckley? Kirk?

would he ask the same of mcain (or huckabee or romney)? i doubt hes read any of the classics of left-liberal thought let alone the conservatives listed.

artdamages, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

so apparently the removal of solis-doyle from the clinton campaign is having repercussions among certain leaders in the latino community, who -- sincerely or not -- are starting to decry what they see as the scapegoating of the clinton campaign's most prominent latino for the failure to meet the campaigns early expectations.

don't know if this is going to indicate any general trend in support among latino voters or if this is an outrage manufactured by interested parties, but it may get some traction in the press -- who knows.

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link

How come Mark Penn wasn't the one who was fired? Isn't he the architect behind HRC's campaign?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

clintons <3 <3 <3 mark penn for eva !!!

jhøshea, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link

stories about campaign staff get no traction ever in the press

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link

How come Mark Penn wasn't the one who was fired?

How about bcz the non-firing was a substance-free media event?

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Eppy, would that be the majority segment who wanted to vote us out of the war in Nov '06?

I was unaware of a national referendum on that subject

gabbneb, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link


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