*all
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 February 2024 15:34 (three months ago) link
yeah kids change the calculus. but my friend from the above post is childless and both he and his partners have jobs with very flexible schedules—so no excuse
― flopson, Sunday, 18 February 2024 15:35 (three months ago) link
Feel like I only ever hear about the Hugos because of blunders and controversies, maybe they should scrap them.Feel like I only hear about widespread efforts to remove books from libraries as the result of organised campaigns by a tiny coterie of right-wing creeps, maybe they should scrap libraries.Fuck sake.
― bae (sic), Sunday, 18 February 2024 16:55 (three months ago) link
tbf, removing books from libraries is done by external, (mostly) right-wing forces, and the Hugos shot themselves in the foot, thigh, and sternum during the 2023 awards, based on the details that have just come out
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 February 2024 17:07 (three months ago) link
one thing im a bit confused by with the hugo stuff—isn’t babel by rf kuang quite widely acknowledged to be terrible? everyone i know who attempted reading it basically threw it across the room, and the excerpts ive read were awful
― flopson, Sunday, 18 February 2024 17:13 (three months ago) link
yes but that book throwing helped people increase muscle mass
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 February 2024 17:27 (three months ago) link
shot themselves has tipsy been hearing about the 2024 awards since 2013 or was it something else
― bae (sic), Sunday, 18 February 2024 17:32 (three months ago) link
xpost I haven’t read the book, but it won the Nebula so apparently not everyone agreed it was terrible
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Sunday, 18 February 2024 18:01 (three months ago) link
Feel like I only ever hear about the Hugos because of blunders and controversies, maybe they should scrap them.
With respect, this might be a you problem, it's kept on being one of the two big awards (which is why the Sad / Rabid Puppies went after it, though they never really got very far) - if you don't follow sci-fi awards, where would you expect to hear of it?
xp also the Blackwell's book of the year for fiction (also my wife loved it)
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 18 February 2024 18:55 (three months ago) link
lol my primary source on Hugos is Chuck Tingle. I don't really have an opinion about them.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 18 February 2024 19:52 (three months ago) link
Hugo winners are a good way to get new scifi reading in - well, they were on point with NK Jemisin anyway she's awesome.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 18 February 2024 21:32 (three months ago) link
Any awards that keep being given to Sean McGuire are deeply suspect awards. And they're popularly voted, so the literary equivalent of the Logies.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 18 February 2024 21:46 (three months ago) link
Hmm, except that no one knows what the Logies are
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Sunday, 18 February 2024 22:07 (three months ago) link
xp I am assuming you're not deadnaming Seanan McGuire there?
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 18 February 2024 22:09 (three months ago) link
Just autocorrect kicking in, annoyingly
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 19 February 2024 02:50 (three months ago) link
I actually wasn't aware she'd had any other name.
And the Logies thing was my point.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 19 February 2024 02:51 (three months ago) link
Logies have only been open voting for a decade or so, you used to have to spend $2.95 on the form and 37¢ on the stamp, at least (so they were rigged by publicists instead of the public)Any organisation’s membership giving awards, contrarily, is a completely normal and reasonable process for awards. And rarely results in a significantly more demented slate than one which has juried noms and attendee voting tbf.(I have no opinion about the recipients of any of them in the last 8 years except that two went to a friend and those ones are, unrelatedly, good and justified. if tipsy wants to call for the awards to be scrapped bcz he has now heard of them four times, not twice, in eleven years, go ahead tho)
― bae (sic), Monday, 19 February 2024 09:34 (three months ago) link
all awards are bad
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 19 February 2024 09:45 (three months ago) link
thread winner
― mark s, Monday, 19 February 2024 09:49 (three months ago) link
Historic Hugos (and Nebulas) award winners still a dece enough guide to the best in the genre for newbies.
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 19 February 2024 10:02 (three months ago) link
if tipsy wants to call for the awards to be scrapped bcz he has now heard of them four times, not twice, in eleven years, go ahead tho
I dived into the whole sad puppies thing when it was going on — which ran for like five years, didn't it? — and now obviously this whole China debacle. All of which suggest — to, yes, somebody who doesn't pay much attention or attach any particular significance to the Hugos — that there are some organizational/structural issues or vulnerabilities. I don't care if it gets scrapped or not, but it looks like they're going to have some work to do to re-establish whatever credibility they had.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 19 February 2024 15:12 (three months ago) link
There are probably 50 different awards for SF writing given out yearly, but the only ones most people know of or care about are the Nebulas and the Hugos. That's why the Sad Weirdos tried to hijack the awards in the first place. It makes more sense to replace whoever was making censorship decisions in this case than to get rid of a fan voted award entirely.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 19 February 2024 15:21 (three months ago) link
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:20 (three months ago) link
NY Times is leaning toward mean takedowns: Alexandra Jacobs on Anne Lamott and Ducks, Newburyport's Lucy Ellmann on Danielle Dutton.
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 26 April 2024 15:27 (one month ago) link
where's the takedown of Ducks?
― symsymsym, Friday, 26 April 2024 15:48 (one month ago) link
no the author of Ducks (Ellmann) published a much-maligned takedown of Dutton
― sean gramophone, Friday, 26 April 2024 15:53 (one month ago) link
Ducking A!
― sarahell, Friday, 26 April 2024 15:58 (one month ago) link
well I read that punctuation incorrectly. I thought everyone loved Ducks! (The Canadian graphic novel)
― symsymsym, Friday, 26 April 2024 15:58 (one month ago) link
just because you can write a book doesn't mean you can review a book
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Friday, 26 April 2024 16:16 (one month ago) link
^underrated REO Speedwagon album
― ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 April 2024 16:16 (one month ago) link
jfc the quotes in this thread
I read the book. It is on Kindle Unlimited, which I already have a free trial of, so I didn't pay money for it. Strap in, this is going to take a while. To start with, a big chunk of the book is Sam recapping Black Like Me & other journalists who did Blackface. https://t.co/8so85Wzk7O— Shayna 🇵🇸✡️🏳️🌈🏳️ @shaynaa.bsky.social (@greycoupon) June 1, 2024
― mookieproof, Monday, 3 June 2024 05:07 (one week ago) link
"I am a visionary writer"
this dude is a fifth-tier journo who wanted to make a splash and then jumped into the ocean without knowing how to swim
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 June 2024 05:23 (one week ago) link
"In Chicago, good writers don't take the L"
oh you're taking the L alright
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 June 2024 05:24 (one week ago) link
he deleted all of the inflammatory shit he tweeted at the NAACP
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 June 2024 05:27 (one week ago) link
oh my goooooooooooood
Institutional racism (the anti-Black variety) is effectively dead," Forster concludes in the book. "Most of what's left of racism in this country are the few, socially narrow opportunities for soft interpersonal racism: shoulder racism."
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 June 2024 05:31 (one week ago) link
Holy crap I'd heard about this book but the content is risible. Unless it is one massive troll at the left or wokism or something?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 3 June 2024 06:01 (one week ago) link
perish the thought
― subpost master (wins), Monday, 3 June 2024 06:07 (one week ago) link
https://www.twitter.com/HotCommieWife/status/1796300427702485492
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 June 2024 06:23 (one week ago) link
it reads like an extremely blunt parody of a delusional culture warrior, but also not a funny one.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 3 June 2024 06:23 (one week ago) link
Thanks to this book, I now fear picking up hitchhikers, worried they might be narcissistic white men in disguise.— Lana Del Gay (@HotCommieWife) May 30, 2024
everything about this book sounds terrible ofc, but that tweet isn't great either
― imago, Monday, 3 June 2024 08:22 (one week ago) link
Go on, then...
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 June 2024 08:52 (one week ago) link
That tweet is great, wtf?
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 3 June 2024 10:36 (one week ago) link
This is a lazy and bad tweet
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Monday, 3 June 2024 11:02 (one week ago) link
this 'clusterfuck' seems almost precision-engineered to symbiotically feed the cycle of unfunny drag his white ass twitter-voice twitter while elevating its admittedly pathetic progenitor to minor notoriety, all of it is worthless
― imago, Monday, 3 June 2024 11:11 (one week ago) link
clusterfucks of worth: that ellmann review of dutton seems pleasingly pointed. i will have to fish my copy of Ducks, Newburyport off the shelf soon
― imago, Monday, 3 June 2024 11:23 (one week ago) link
Clusterducks
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 3 June 2024 12:05 (one week ago) link
The blackface book was already notorious before that tweet thread. It was just confirming that the writer was a right wing troll.
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Monday, 3 June 2024 12:13 (one week ago) link
exactly, just ignore this shit. so how about that Ellmann eh? eh??
― imago, Monday, 3 June 2024 12:18 (one week ago) link