2008 Primaries Thread

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eli thank you for bringing joy to our nation

Mr. Que, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

via Matt Yglesias, a piece from a 1999 piece on the emerging political independence of Hillary Clinton, including a quote from the woman who was just made her campaign manager:

'The biggest mistake of the American press is thinking they know her,'' says Maggie Williams, Clinton's former chief of staff and one of her closest friends. ''You know, people think she's such a big lib. I think she's extremely conservative. I think she has more in common with people in upstate New York than in New York City, in a lot of ways.'' Williams calls Clinton ''patriotic and practical. She thinks it's important to spend money on social programs, but she wants to know that they work.''

Maybe so. But until she stands on her own politically, none of us can know. Morris says Hillary Clinton recognized long before her husband the effectiveness of a campaign based on bite-size ''values'' issues like school uniforms. She supports the death penalty, as the President does. She supports abortion rights, as he does, but she has not made the issue a priority as First Lady. For all her heated warnings about children, she has been ginger in using her influence to tilt the balance of power in their favor.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A06E0D61531F933A05756C0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

elmo argonaut, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link

just a reminder to everyone that the progressive-policy child-crusader persona she's playing to the press is a pretty recent invention

elmo argonaut, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

You know, people think she's such a big lib.

lol

Dr Morbius, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link

bullshit^

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A0CE7D7103DF936A3575BC0A961958260

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D07E0DE163FF937A25751C1A961958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

White House officials said that Hillary Rodham Clinton had been more deeply involved in development of the President's child care proposals than in any issue since the health care debacle of 1993 and 1994.

Mr. Que, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I think remembering the past may be a part of these "Clinton Rules" I've been hearing about. Remembering the past may also be sexist.

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

<3 <3 <3

elmo argonaut, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:37 (sixteen years ago) link

"No Videos found for 'huckabee tyra'" :( :(

elmo argonaut, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

stop trying to make me forget that Huckabee is Bush pt. 3

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

That may be the best thing to come out of this primary season. Airs Feb 29th.

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

That picture is even more amazing than the Gore ghostie pic!

Nicole, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

1. blingee that pic
2. put on tshirt
3. profit!

gff, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Amazing.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Added Huckabee, "I'm so pumped about being here."

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link

guys i was going to nominate this to be added to santorum.jpg but huckabee-tyra is of a caliber perfect enough to warrant a new generation of crazytits

elmo argonaut, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Start the thread, duder.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

haaaa

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holy shit

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

i dunno that picture is perfect the way it is, amazing, a modern day Birth of Venus for our times.

Mr. Que, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Here are some highlights from the supermodel’s interview, as provided by a publicist for her show:

TYRA BANKS: So, on your way to the Tyra Show, Mitt Romney drops out.

GOVERNOR HUCKABEE: He heard I was coming on the show, Tyra, and he said if he’s on Tyra’s show, this is done for me. I’m so pumped about being here.

TYRA BANKS: Are you pumped about being here?

GOVERNOR HUCKABEE: I am. You know, I actually said, the next time I’m in New York, find out if I can get on Tyra’s show.

TYRA BANKS: Oh, are you serious?

GOVERNOR HUCKABEE: My staff has been trying for a long time, and I think when Mitt heard that I was on, he’s said I’m out and here I am, on the way to the White House from here.

Ms. Banks later compared Mr. Huckabee’s loss of 110 pounds to “losing an entire Eva Longoria of ‘Desperate Housewives!’”

Mr. Huckabee’s interview on “The Tyra Banks Show” is scheduled to run on Feb. 29.

jaymc, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Huckabee is totally the successful version of Bush in that he does actually convince me that he's a likeable, fun guy. I know many likeable, fun guy who would make horrible, horrible presidents.

HI DERE, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

VERY long thread to wade through, just one question right now. will both obama and clinton court edwards for running mate, would that even give any advantage?

laxalt, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

no fucking way

gr8080, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

i dunno, i can't imagine either of them really benefiting from an edwards VP spot over other possible choices

Mark Clemente, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Obama/Kucinich '08

HI DERE, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Obama/Billups '08

Nicole, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

ok thanks!

laxalt, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Clinton/Gravel '08

HI DERE, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Obama/Billups '08

endorsed by me ^^^!!!

jhøshea, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link

MUST you mention Dick Morris.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

a 'CYT' article

gabbneb, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Sebilius for Obama's VP, has a nice ring to it.

kenan, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Why does Morris predict Obama victory in OH and PA? Both of those seem like Hillary country to me.

jaymc, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

if there is a problem with the nomination if foresee a long stretch of newspaper headlines that rhyme "obama" with "drama"

max, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe he's betting on momentum? xp

Nicole, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Why does Morris predict Obama victory in OH and PA? Both of those seem like Hillary country to me

yea there is basically no support to any of his claims about those two states. wisconsin, too. as far as i'm concerned clinton still probably has the upper hand in those states.

Mark Clemente, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Obama/Billups '08

This would turn me into a supporter!

http://www.ballpimp.com/images/billups.jpg

USA #1

Mr. Goodman, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Sebilius for Obama's VP, has a nice ring to it.

Sebelius has a better ring. She's not the most experienced candidate, but I still think people overrate that stuff, and it will be more important to be reassuring to non-Obama-like voters. If you discount foreign policy, she's the #1 pick.

gabbneb, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Clinton/Banks '08

HI DERE, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Clinton/Bridges '08

gabbneb, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually, against every sensible bone in my body, if I saw "Huckabee/Banks" on the ballot I don't know if I would be able to resist voting for them. It would just be too ludicrous.

HI DERE, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

That photo really would be a perfect image for a new fall sitcom.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

i bet obama pulls off WI, or if not, very close

deej, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Ohio is a stretch based on what i know about things ... on the other hand you have a huge system of colleges there, including the country's biggest university

deej, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link

i bet obama pulls off WI, or if not, very close

um, yeah, he's the favorite there

gabbneb, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm inclined to think Ohio will go for Hillary based on how they drive.

Nicole, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link

xxpost - yea, i'm pretty sure he'll win cleveland, the demographics mostly favor him there. columbus, too. don't know about the rest of the state, though. it's a pretty working-class state for the most part.

Mark Clemente, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link

i just read something today abt how ohio is prob not such a stretch for obama as people are thinking - i cant remember why - theres a possibility i might be consuming slightly too much media abt all this

jhøshea, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, would a cabinet posting for 'Sheed be, y'know, Guarensheed?

http://www.emptythebench.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/sheed2.jpg

Energy perhaps?

Mr. Goodman, Monday, 11 February 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link


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