2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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If I was stuck w/Palin I'd consider myself a prisoner.

Nicole, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

If I was stuck w/Palin I'd consider myself a prisoner. first dude

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and what, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link

American Jews who defend the Obama/Socialist camp are like the jews in Nazi Death Camps that played music for the inspecting International Red Cross when they went to investigate reports of the killings. They have already givin up in thier hearts." Oh, If we give them the benefit of doubt, they will like me." They have forgotten the lesson of history. They seem to live in a world of thier own and they will pay the price dearly. Its just a matter of time before the "savior" and his allies turn on them. After the "usefullness" of the American Jew is over.... its only a question of time.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

so thats who makes up 'undecided' voters xp

joe 40oz (deej), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

*slaps head*

xp

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.cinestatic.com/infinitethought/uploaded_images/gywopalin-799147.gif

I lol'ed

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link

eurgh

joe 40oz (deej), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I hate that strip so much

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link

sleep, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:33 (sixteen years ago) link

awkwarrrd

sleep, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Meghan and Sarah are like, "Wait... whuuuuuuuuuuuuuut?"

Hatch, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I know it's his responsibility, he's the one who went on his knees to the base, hired a bunch of Rove-but-not-as-effective campaign dudes, supported shit he knew was idiotic, etc, but you can tell this whole race is starting to really get to him and I can't help but feel sorry for him.

en i see kay, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah this is reaching whole new levels of embarassment

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't feel sorry for him like I felt sorry for, say, James Stockdale though. McCain wanted this, he's wanted it almost his entire career - guy is a craven asshole.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah that Rolling Stone article is just. . . searing.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I always feel like he is thinking "Bush screwed me out of another one..."

bnw, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i figure any uptick in the polls is sympathy polling

joe 40oz (deej), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't feel sorry for him like I felt sorry for, say, James Stockdale though

Quite right. (Adm. Stockdale lived across the street from us in Coronado and I had a chance to chat with him at several points, and he was a guest of honor at my dad's retirement from the Navy. I always thought he got a raw deal in 1992.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm still grateful to Stockdale for promoting Epictetus; would that we had right-of-center leaders today so fluent in the ancients.

Peter Cetera (Euler), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link

CNN on the ayers thing

joe 40oz (deej), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

that piece seems pretty misleading imo

joe 40oz (deej), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

lol

Joe Pinot (rockapads), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

this has been a hard campaign for everyone

al kaline trio (dan m), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

ahaha

sleep, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

everyone needs a nap

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm still grateful to Stockdale for promoting Epictetus

As one fluent in the ancients, I have some profound problems with Epictetus, although his philosophy has certain minor merits for any time when emperors rule the nation. He teaches one not to hope, but only to bear.

Because so much seems unbearable without hope, Epictetus recommends certain mental exercises to construct a sort of tough mental membrane that obscures one's pain without altering the source of it. It amounts to a kind of self-anesthesia. Consequently, there is nothing more joyless than a true stoic.

Aimless, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link

the Ayers thing really doesn't have any legs. So scary - terrorists getting together and IMPROVING EDUCATION!!

homosexual II, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I wouldn't say joyless, because I don't know what it would be like to be a stoic: I am not that strong; but I would say incomprehensible as a *human* life. But Stockdale's situation was drastic, and I can't say that he made a bad choice to go stoic. (xpost)

Peter Cetera (Euler), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?aid=140072

ok she genuinely sounds like me in a job interview talking up her 'administrative skills'

joe 40oz (deej), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link

"familiar with windows xp and macintosh platforms..."

joe 40oz (deej), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link

The Ayers thing wasn't expected to have legs. It was just one bb shot in the shotgun shell McCain is firing at Obama. The idea is that any undecided voter it hits will be one voter to the good.

At this stage of the game, I would expect a "distraction of the day" series of attacks from McCain/Palin. Those, and a lot of half-baked "new" policy ideas, the only purpose of which is to see if enough voters take the bait to move the poll numbers. If any idea succeeds in moving the numbers even a little, then it would become the next big sound bite of the stump speech.

Aimless, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?aid=140072

"I responded to a question a reporter asked about Jeremiah Wright"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

hannity is awful but you have to give him credit for being on the ayers thing for over a year, instead of just hopping on it as a last-ditch effort.

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah good job, Sean. Way to be committed to focusing on something stupid.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

In 2010, two years into the Obama administration, he'll still be on it. Dude is dedicated.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Do I need to start denying ever having talked to Ayers on the phone for a second about a work thing? Because I totally, totally didn't, and anyone who tells you otherwise is, umm, mischaracterizing things.

nabisco, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Ayers is a productive guy -- not only does he make time to be a terrorist and an education professor, he also ghostwrote all of Obama's books.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

a federal investigator: have you told a known terrorist or someone that once discussed with said terrorist a work thing that he is, *ahem*, "on the money?"
a ilxor: what no what the heck, leave me alone buddy
a federal investigator: o rly?
a ilxor: oh shit
a federal investigator: ^_^

the valves of houston (gbx), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought this was already linked, but I can't find it on the thread:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/david-brooks-sarah-palin_n_133001.html

Brooks's critique of Sarah Palin are less interesting than his behind-the-scenes encounters with Obama:

Obama has the great intellect. I was interviewing Obama a couple years ago, and I'm getting nowhere with the interview, it's late in the night, he's on the phone, walking off the Senate floor, he's cranky. Out of the blue I say, 'Ever read a guy named Reinhold Niebuhr?' And he says, 'Yeah.' So I say, 'What did Niebuhr mean to you?' For the next 20 minutes, he gave me a perfect description of Reinhold Niebuhr's thought, which is a very subtle thought process based on the idea that you have to use power while it corrupts you. And I was dazzled, I felt the tingle up my knee as Chris Matthews would say.

And the other thing that does separate Obama from just a pure intellectual: he has tremendous powers of social perception. And this is why he's a politician, not an academic. A couple of years ago, I was writing columns attacking the Republican congress for spending too much money. And I throw in a few sentences attacking the Democrats to make myself feel better. And one morning I get an email from Obama saying, 'David, if you wanna attack us, fine, but you're only throwing in those sentences to make yourself feel better.' And it was a perfect description of what was going through my mind. And everybody who knows Obama all have these stories to tell about his capacity for social perception.

jaymc, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Anonymous Charlotte said...

"Obama was a nobody recent law school grad when he wrote Dreams. No one would have ghost-written a book for him back then."

Obama was picked by the Brzezinski crew long ago, and for not especially flattering reasons. His "unknown", early 80s Columbia years would reveal much on that subject. He has been through some sort of mind control training, something far deeper and more sinister than the "est" or Landmark that Steve mentions in another thread.
Clinton (Bill) was picked by the Rockefeller group and plucked out of relative obscurity cica 1990. BIll and Hill turned up at the Bilderburg conferences, just prior to the 92 elections. That's when I knew.
I don't believe in the omniscience of the "powers that be" but I do know they plan years ahead. They have time, the money and the staff to do so.

10/06/2008

joe 40oz (deej), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

nuttiness of comments on nutty blogs = exp(nuttiness of said blogs)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha yes, Bill Clinton 1990, OBSCURE NOBODY POLITICIAN

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I was dazzled, I felt the tingle up my knee as Chris Matthews would say.

GROSS

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

why on earth would Chris Matthews say such a thing

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

That Biden video about the 'angry man' John McCain is pretty great. I love how "lurching from one position to another" describes John McCain's debate performance both politically and physically. ZING

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link


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