2008 Primaries Thread

Juan Williams seemed less hateful this morning, but was he playing a double game in arguing that the GOP wants O? http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Juan_Williams_calls_out_Fox_analysts_0210.html

-- gabbneb, Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:06 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

the thought had crossed my mind too but i rejected it for a number of reasons ... it sounds like the same logic that calls karl rove an EVIL GENIUS

also juan sounds pro-clinton

i guess mackro was right on the ron paul tip. it's a caucus, tho.

lol @ "fun medication" turning kenan into a Republican housewife

southern states still show a significant racial divide ... 70% of whites in LA went for clinton

hillary klanton

^^^ Idiotic stereotyping.

It's possible to vote for one person or the other for reasons that don't have to do with race, and more to do with regional political tendencies.

thank you for taking my post very seriously, we need more aspies on this thread

After all, Bobby Jindal won the LA governorship after winning more white votes from Republicans, Democrats, and independents than any other candidate.

Even as a joke, Gershy, it's a fucked up thing to say.

are you denying that the clintons are playing racial politics in the primaries?

I figured you would abandon the "it was just a joke" defense. I just didn't expect it to happen so soon.

Of course I wouldn't deny it. Bill's dismissive remarks after South Carolina cinched my Obama vote (after Edwards dropped out).

But voters from the deep south who would be susceptible to the racial politics dog whistle abandoned the Democrats in 1980 or so. So no, I don't think racial bias contributed at all significantly to Hillary's win among whites in LA.

what does regional political tendencies mean in this case?

Bread and butter issues. Preference for familiar names over new faces, and skepticism of flavors-of-the-week. It's part of a regional cultural conservatism, but among Dems, it has nothing to do with race.

The David Dukes of the south are Republicans now, and swap code words about original intent and states rights. Your sort of smug ignorance is the kind of thing that makes it too easy for the bigots to split up the middle -- "see, to them, you're just a racist hick, while we talk your language."

It doesn't take too much of a stretch of thinking to argue that any Hillary voter must be a racist. Good luck with that.

your projecting some crazy stuff dude, but whatever.
my joke had nothing to do wit LA or the south, if the quote had said New Hampshire/South Dakota or any other northern state, would have been the same

good luck with thinking all white voters in the south are immune to racial appeals too

white dem voters that is

So when I look through the New Hampshire stuff up the page, I'll see your earlier joke tying New Hampshire voters to the Klan, right?

X-post

Whoah, goalposts moved again, big surprise.

if someone had posted that upthread, yes

and you're the one making blanket statements, dude

Cheap internet rhetorical devices employed by Gershy so far: "it was a just a joke," arguments of perversity, straw men, changing the terms of debate.

the straw men have been of your creation

"debate"

lmao @ "dickerson pike" - who is this guy? is he buddy with rock hardy??really standing up for the honor of the South against imaginary attacks.

-- gershy, Sunday, February 10, 2008 4:29 PM (Sunday, February 10, 2008 4:29 PM) Bookmark Link

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internet hardmen will rise again

Bread and butter issues. Preference for familiar names over new faces, and skepticism of flavors-of-the-week. It's part of a regional cultural conservatism, but among Dems, it has nothing to do with race.

-- Dickerson Pike, Sunday, February 10, 2008 3:06 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

lol southern black folks, always choosing new faces and flavors of the week

we need more aspies on this thread

Oh, I'll be back soon.

WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton has replaced campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle, naming longtime aide Maggie Williams to the top job.

Solis Doyle announced the shift in an e-mail to the staff on Sunday.

"I have been proud to manage this campaign and prouder still to call Hillary my friend for more than 16 years," Solis Doyle wrote. "Maggie is a remarkable person and I am confident that she will do a fabulous job."

The move comes a day after rival Barack Obama swept contests in Washington state, Nebraska, Louisiana

Deej, yeah, I'd say that southern blacks have less vested in the existing national party power structure.

lmao @ "dickerson pike" - who is this guy? is he buddy with rock hardy??really standing up for the honor of the South against imaginary attacks.

hahaha, wait, what? When have I EVER stood up for the honor of the South? I can barely tolerate this place.

Meanwhile, Obama appears to be winning Maine...

he's also winning Grammys.

He won best spoken word LMAO.

damn obama even stomping out our own ned raggett

Clearly Obama is the spoken-word establishment. Now, to fire my manager.

Edwards in talks - http://thepage.time.com/2008/02/10/page-exclusive-tar-heel-talks/

that post is just screaming for drudgesiren.gif

I can't help but think he'll end up endorsing Obama.

OBAMA LARGE IN MAINE

Barack Obama 1,305 57.3%
Hillary Rodham Clinton 956 42.0
Uncommitted 16 0.7
Others 1 0.0

59% reporting | Updated 6:22 PM ET

whooooooooo

NBC calls Maine for Obama.

thank you for taking my post very seriously, we need more aspies on this thread

-- gershy, Sunday, 10 February 2008 20:43 (2 hours ago)

uhh, your post was the most half-witted thing i've ever read.

srsly. is that even funny?

Huge win in Maine. If Obama takes the February primaries, he'll really jepordize HRC's March ''big states'' strategy. She might wind up being steamrolled like Giuliani (tho, obv, there are significant differences between HRC and Rudy G).

The north is from Mars, the south is from Venus.

Let's make a romantic comedy you guys!

more like dickerson klanston, amirite

No way will HRC allow herself to get trampled. That superdelegate story in today's NYT is worrying.

It's about what's expected, isn't it?

thank you for taking my post very seriously, we need more aspies on this thread

-- gershy, Sunday, 10 February 2008 20:43 (2 hours ago)

uhh, your post was the most half-witted thing i've ever read.

srsly. is that even funny?

-- molly mummenschanz, Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:39 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

in this case i think gershy's post is supposed to come after yours

haha

Alfred, that Rich NYT story is not just worrying . . . it's frightening.