"Starship Troopers" - Verhoeven is a mad genius!

It's been captured/found by Ricos former drill instructor from boot camp who we found out asked for a demotion to private so he could fight in the war.

Then they lez up.

If Bruckheimer was the guy who made the T-shirts that say "PORN STAR" then Verhoeven would be the guy who came along and designed one that said "SUCKS DICK FOR BLOW" *applause*

But don't get me wrong I like Starship Troopers a lot

I just like Johnny Mnemonic a lot better

"IT'S AFRAID."

"Alien 90210" is correct, but it works! In a bland, fascist, pretty future, of course all the people would be plastic. The bad acting becomes an element of the satire.

"Starship Troopers is good but it's really nothing more than ID4 for people who like their subtext in 40-point Arial Black"

ID4 had no subtext, as far as I could tell. And sure, Starship Troopers is broad satire mixed with broad entertainment, but the comparison is still unfiar. ID4 was brainless entertainment mixed with... um... Will Smith. Starship Troopers is a movie that's smart about everything it's doing, even when it's being stupid. (Which is also a good description of Robocop, which... come on. Great and also great.)

And I'd pick Futura Black for my money. If you have to say it big and loud, at least go with a classic. "Arial Black." Haha. A Microsoft font. Yes, I'm mocking you.

-- Paunchy Stratego (fluxion2...), November 28th, 2005.

you are SUCH a DICK.

Possibly the reason that it didn't do well in the US was that too amny people got the joke he was having at their expense.

...which is why Verhoeven is a genius and Bay is just a hack.

Verhoeven knows how low he's going and RELISHES it. He's like a scuba diver swimming in shit to uncover lost ruins.

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Which to finish my point means the movie works as a satire not about theoretical Fascism but about very real Manufactured Consent.

* The most brilliant scientific mind in the universe belongs to TWO MARTIANS (who combine to form a single, giant martian) - not a member of the human race, as Bill & Ted had assumed!

* The Grim Reaper sucks hard at inane family games like Clue and Twister!

* Hell is nothing like their album covers!

I think perhaps the most telling thing about Bill & Ted is the way they just shrug off the innumerable paradoxes created by all their traveling back and forth through time and from the afterlife into the world of the living, and then just out of the blue become heroes, nay, leaders and unifiers of the entire world, with presumably no real qualifications - it's exactly their completely aloof approach to reality that makes them the greatest candidates for the job! Bill & Ted ought to make people who see today's world as being dystopian think hard about why they feel that way all the time instead of kicking back with a Pepsi and some Megadeth.

Don't ask me why I know that this film exists

PS I clicked on this thread by accident.

for what it's worth, the screenwriter of "starship troopers" mentioned "kiss of the spider woman" at some point--i can't recall the exact context.

i taught this film a few months ago.

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gee, ally, thanks.

Why does ST get so much credit for doing what loads of other war films already do, but with bold WINKY WINKY stamped all over it? Especially since the source material is already 4000x more challenging and incisive than anything in the film?

i think the book was written pre-war. and he and bardeche were fascists, right? not playing with fascist imagery, actually being fascists.