also goole OTM: maybe the prosaic turn is to actually keep a lighter tone but make him more of a thrillseeker thief rather than a tortured baby-spiker
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link
ha now i'm waiting for this: the gotham public likes its new lighthearted costumed villain more than its dour costumed protector who, maybe a reality-show celeb media satire vibe (ok no)
― goole, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Hoffman could do his Capote voice as the Penguin.
― mile high guy (brownie), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Actually, since Batman is taking the fall for the Two-Face rampage and the death of Harvey Dent, maybe you have one villain be the standard crook and the other one be a vigilante going after Batman for being a menace.
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Dan's riddler would have to spend most of the movie getting foiled and/or caught then in the finale switcheroo be successful to work as described. That would mean villain wins. Don't know if that would work. Maybe.
― For other uses, see Cornhole (disambiguation). (Oilyrags), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Also kudos to danielesque for posting links to rumors from a year ago.
― For other uses, see Cornhole (disambiguation). (Oilyrags), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
ty, ty.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 24 July 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link
There were new to me!
I remember Mr. Freeze being really awesome on the cartoon Batman show. Scary, tragic.
yup.
also in this: http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Snow-Dan-Curtis-Johnson/dp/1401212654
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51zyPd08SPL._SL500_AA240_.jpg
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm inclined to think this Depp/Hoffman rumor is bullshit because a) as noted this rumor has been around since before DK was even out, and b) its way more likely that Gyllenhaal will be in the third movie as Catwoman - she's already under contract for three movies, it would fit into the personal transformation/unintended consequences thread of the existing narrative, you don't SEE her die ("cats have 9 lives" lolz). Plus the cat joke/ref in DK.
By all means there could be another villain, but I'll be very surprised if there's no Gyllenhaal as Catwoman.
― girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Depp would be completely non-threatening as the Riddler imo, the best thing about the first two movies was Gary Oldham so as long as he's in the next one i'm happy.
― same dog, different leg action (Mr Raif), Friday, 24 July 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
but I'll be very surprised if there's no Gyllenhaal as Catwoman
(a) would look good in costume; (b) would allow her to play the opposite of the character she played in Secretary.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 24 July 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
not minor, but certainly not the center of the action in the way the joker was ...
― tylerw, Friday, July 24, 2009 4:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
...which was about two-face as much as it was about the joker in exactly the same way as the first one was about ras al ghul as much as it was about the scarecrow!
― julien schNAGL (s1ocki), Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
http://api.ning.com/files/Le3SG5S3b51hIu7izQ0r55geK1-Ac4i6J436InSm0jvY5ENxdjLZvYp5RCxxokTdE*qA782dGgqsudG44zbpUhyiSQlC5SUY/crazy_quilt.jpg
― Panera - Vulgar Display Of Flour (latebloomer), Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link
only logical choice imo
that dude has problems
― julien schNAGL (s1ocki), Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Starting with his greasy forelock.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link
still crossing my fingers for catwoman. bale's on record saying he wants wayne to knock boots, and I think the sex angle is the only novel place to go post-joker - otherwise it's all just crime bosses with goofy fetishes ("I like cold!" "I like alice in wonderland!")
― da croupier, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i may have posted this on a thread before, but I'd love to have catwoman call out bale's goofy "argh i'm batman" voice and then have him abandon it, as if finally accepting that wayne is the costume and that batman is the real him.
― da croupier, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link
some other villainy casting ideas i wrote for work a while back
eric roberts didn't actually die, gets really into greek mythology and becomes...maxie zeus!
miley cyrus is a teeage sociopathic joker fan who becomes...harley quinn!
ben foster is a cyberpunk who decides batman is the reason crime bosses are buying funny hats and becomes...anarky!
sly stallone is bane!
― da croupier, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe you have one villain be the standard crook and the other one be a vigilante going after Batman for being a menace.
http://www.popculturemadness.com/Entertainment/News/Images/Special.jpg
YES.
― Leee, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Pretty cool fan-made posterhttp://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/riddlerpostercopy.jpg
― Number None, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I was typing 'Batman' into Google and after I clicked search I realized I had actually typed 'Batmoon'
― Armageddon Two: Armageddon (dyao), Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Luckily the GIS results were not as bad as I thought they would be
― Armageddon Two: Armageddon (dyao), Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Third Rock From The Sun kid to take over the Joker role. Maggie as Catwoman.
― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 26 July 2009 06:26 (fourteen years ago) link
just... "maggie"?
― julien schNAGL (s1ocki), Sunday, 26 July 2009 07:52 (fourteen years ago) link
maggie smith
― Panera - Vulgar Display Of Flour (latebloomer), Sunday, 26 July 2009 07:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Thatcher. Filming starts tomorrow just in case.
― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 26 July 2009 08:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I think bringing in Catwoman would be a good idea, but didn't Gyllenhaal's character die in the Dark Knight? They'd require some major retconning to make her into Catwoman. Also, the enemies/partners + sex + costume fetish thing between Bruce and Selina was done so well in Batman Returns, they'd have to find a new angle to that, otherwise they're just biting Burton. I guess Catwoman being an ex of Bruce's who's pissed off at him for letting Joker (supposedly) kill her could provide that angle.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 26 July 2009 12:05 (fourteen years ago) link
I think the only way to top the first two films, and a nice left turn and final nail for the trilogy, would be to have the next film as a huge set piece, something like The Long Halloween (but not that), Dog Day Afternoon or Die Hard.
― mei, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link
It's all so old hat now. I say turn Batman evil and psychotic. Make Oldman the hero, sympathetic to Batman because of his past help, but single-mindedly focused on reigning him in.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 22 September 2009 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link
i like mei's idea
― fountain bleaut (s1ocki), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
The biggest temptation to be overcome is eating from the Multiple Villains tree. Knowing that a series will go that route is like hearing a previously decent band describe the next album as "their Sgt. Pepper," or whatever the best tip-off is that cocaine's on the mixing board and we're all in for something bloated.
― Cunga, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 06:52 (fourteen years ago) link
I say turn Batman evil and psychotic. Make Oldman the hero, sympathetic to Batman because of his past help, but single-mindedly focused on reigning him in.
but that's just using the 'two face' story again, really.
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 09:06 (fourteen years ago) link
The biggest temptation to be overcome is eating from the Multiple Villains tree.
They already did that, tho, in TDK. It worked because the stories were linked-up nicely in the script (unlike other attempts at multiple villian films, e.g. Nos. 2 -- 4 of the old Batman franchise).
But generally I agree with you.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 22 September 2009 10:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I actually don't think it worked that well. Two Face was give fairly short shrift. Don't think we'll be seeing a third movie for a few years anyway.
― Number None, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 11:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Just hoping they don't let Cookie Monster dub his vocals for Batman again!
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2yv8aT0UFc
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link
The multiple villain thing in "Batman Returns" was great. (well, hero/antihero/villain)
― so says i tranny ben franklin (HI DERE), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link
oh wait, Christopher Walken was there too so there were multiple villains
didn't think it worked, tbh. didn't give two face enough time to develop, especially as he was so central to the drama at the end. he just had a tough scene and turned evil.
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I thought Dent's transformation to Two-Face was the least credible thing in TDK.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Alongside the idea that Joker had somehow planned it beforehand that he would transform like that.
apart from the flying bat billionaire ninja, i assume. xp
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I've found its best not to start thinking too hard into how Joker pulled that complicated scheme together, especially the jailbreak, as it involves holes large enough to drive a semi through. Still love the movie to pieces though.
― Size-zero-brigade-embrace-token-chubby-chops (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link
There's different levels of credibility. Even if it's a fantasy, you have to convince the viewer that what happens is credible within the boundaries of this particular fantasy. Bruce Wayne's transformation in Batman Begins feels believable because so much time and justification is devoted to it. Compared to that, Dent's transformation in TDK feels rushed and random, not quite as believable.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:26 (fourteen years ago) link
(x-post)
joker jailbreak the big one. but yeah it's still great stuff.
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Dent's transformation into Two-Face is being wholly overblown by ppl familiar with the comic books IMO; all he was was a pissed-off dude with a burned face who was exacting vengeance on the ppl he thought were responsible for his fiancee's death.
― so says i tranny ben franklin (HI DERE), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
That's true, it wasn't as if he immediately became this "Two Face" personality.
― Size-zero-brigade-embrace-token-chubby-chops (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Tom hardy hasn't spoken clearly since I pointed out that he is in fact Judi dench in an inflatable muscle skin some years back
Fooling nobody judi
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link
when's the next season of Taboo going to air, can we get Tom back to work on that
― mh, Monday, 22 January 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link
Bane's voice and memes is truly the lasting gift of these films.
perhaps also TDKR giving Occupy protesters their mainstream film debut in a film about a billionaire vigilante being our only hope. i wonder if in some weird, twisted way, it actually helped to legitimize the cause to the general public.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link
No
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link
I'm not sure it put the angry mob in a sympathetic light but I get where you're coming from
― mh, Monday, 22 January 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link
eager to refute this obvious nonsense, i google image searched for pictures of dench and hardy together and found nothing
~~x-files theme~~
― grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link
can't agree about occupy, but i think it's obvious that a series of blockbuster movies about a billionaire vigilante being our only hope put trump in the white house
― grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:42 (six years ago) link
fwiw i mean "legitimized" as in "This isn't just a thing the news made up, i saw it in Batman"
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link
i think the venn diagram of people aware enough of current events to know about occupy and people who wait for things to show up in their batman movies before giving them credence probably doesn't have a huge amount of overlap, let's put it that way
― grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link
Ya but in the right gerrymandering system it's just enough
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link
I'm on your schedule, Captain
― omar little, Monday, 22 January 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link
^^^should replace "otm"
― omar little, Monday, 22 January 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link
Nolan Batman >>>>>> Burton Batman you are all goths.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 January 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link
just remembered that bruce wayne's devastating spinal injury in this is solved by having some guy punch him really hard in the backhelluva movie― grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 January 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
helluva movie
― grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 January 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
If you'd like a film closer to reality may I point you to Rome, Open City.
Glad to help.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 January 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link
― xyzzzz__, Monday, January 22, 2018 9:31 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^i'm on your schedule, cap
― omar little, Monday, 22 January 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link