― anthony, Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
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― josh in sf (stfu kthx), Sunday, 26 March 2006 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 26 March 2006 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Jena (JenaP), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm a little bothered by how very DV it looks; wasn't cremaster 3 shot on film?
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Not surprisingly, the Village Voice spoof Cremasters cited above sound much more fun to watch than Barney's.
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― account settings (account), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link
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― account settings (account), Monday, 27 March 2006 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link
"What a unbelievable piece of crap! Pretentious, boring and promoting the Japanese massacre of killing whales (in the name of science, hypocrites). Japan every year is trying to buy other countries to vote for reopening the hunt on whales in the International Whaling Commission. Maybe that's where Matthew Barney got the money from to make this piece of sh*t.
I used to be a big fan of Björk, musically but also her acting in "Dancer in the dark" (magnificent) , but now she has really lost it.
Matthew Barney is her partner, and apparently makes her lose all her critical capacity.
Don't go there!"
― josh in sf (stfu kthx), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― gbx (skowly), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh God, did you ever make as lovable a creature? A three-legged kitten in a teapot maybe.
― Distant Milk, Monday, 27 March 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:18 (eighteen years ago) link
When in Minneapolis, which has significant and early Barney 'purchases' at the Walker, it was funny to look at who the wealthy buyer/donors were: a local real-estate magnate nobody outside Minnesota would be troubled by.
As to the art, it's relentlessly packaged but that's part of the practice. I wondered also if the practice was trying to express the ultimate self-ref/reverence and directing all that narcissism into strange and loopy places. It is very meaty as in fleshy. However intellectual they might make it sound, I can't help but think B&B sit there all day counting one another's toes and doing fuck-all.
― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:31 (eighteen years ago) link
"The Simple Life" for a pair of self-important art-world celebrities. With a combination of lavish pageantry and industrial exertion, the Nisshin Maru, Japan's last whaling ship, sails off from Nagasaki Bay. Along with its crew, it carries two guests, Matthew Barney and Bjork, who submit to elaborate rituals of tonsure, pomade, and dress at the hands of solemn bearers whose job it is to keep from laughing at their employers' airs. They partake of a classical tea ceremony in an unabashed display of Oriental kitsch that makes "Memoirs of a Geisha" look like an ethnographic documentary. As their berth fills with what might be water or whale oil, the couple lovingly carve each other up into human sushi. Barney, the director of this unbearingly empty spectacle, has in effect filmed at great expense the couple's designer-sightseeing cruise, with little more skill and vastly more pretense than the average tourist.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:44 (eighteen years ago) link
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― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link
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― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link
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― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Soukesian, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link
also, they don't usually show in movie theaters. the cycle did two years ago as part of a retrospective, but i believe barney's preferred venue for these things is in art galleries. cremaster 2 was meant to be experienced sitting on saddle sculptures.
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Don't Barbara Walters interviews have all of these things? With the exception of the soundtrack role, I could argue the same for music videos or sports documentary-style films. A friend has an indy car film that's basically an imax-style film put on dvd that has long driving sequences with no plot whatsoever. Should I complain about them using "Hollywood" technology? I don't even think this classifies as a repurposing of tools for artistic intent since the methodologies are versatile enough that I don't see them bound to one filmmaking style.
― mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link
I've actually just realized that if the entire thing were soundtracked by Sad#233; I would totally love it. There's a similar kind of obsessive sadness going on with both of them.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link
It goes without saying this stuff isn't for most people, and I can certainly see why it's annoying to some people this work even exists; the films are flagrant displays of production value and wealth, employed towards something extremely subjective and vague -- so I can understand the derision towards not only the work but the fact that there's an audience for it -- all I can say is I got something out of it, so I'm part of the audience.
― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link