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if you qualify, please make an appointment. more people vaccinated helps everyone.

that's not my post, Friday, 19 March 2021 01:49 (three years ago) link

everyone qualifies rn is the point. you have to sign an affidavit that you pinky swear you’re in a qualified group, but that’s it. entire rollout kinda a cluster rn.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 19 March 2021 01:50 (three years ago) link

if I eat enough burritos at lunch I can get my BMI within spitting distance of 30

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 19 March 2021 01:51 (three years ago) link

they weren't really validating before either; my wife qualified because she works for the school district, we guess? it wasn't clear at all...but they let her sign up and at no point did anyone ever ask for any documentation.

akm, Friday, 19 March 2021 03:16 (three years ago) link

which is why NPR going after One Medical for the same damn thing is so galling. net result: One Medical receives no more vaccine, we all lose.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 19 March 2021 11:36 (three years ago) link

everyone qualifies rn is the point. you have to sign an affidavit that you pinky swear you’re in a qualified group, but that’s it. entire rollout kinda a cluster rn.

― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, March 18, 2021 6:50 PM (yesterday)

This is patently false and perhaps one of the worst things I've read on this thread (which is full of quite a bit of typical entitled SF/Bay Area bullshit).

According to the CDPH*, you are eligible to be vaccinated:

If you are 65+ years old

or work in:

Childcare
Education
Emergency services
Food and agriculture
Health care
Long-term care facilities
Public transit/airports and commercial airlines
Congregate (group) residential settings (shelters, jails, group homes)

Please don't skip your turn, even if you try to justify it with some lame excuse.

*https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/vaccine-high-risk-factsheet.aspx

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 March 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

My friend (SF native)'s uncle died last night of COVID. He had been hospitalized/ventilator-ed since valentine's day.

For the data-driven + empathy-challenged folks, his tick will show up on the graph tomorrow:

https://i.imgur.com/i3DB9Zi.png

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 March 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

That pretty much matches the email I got from Kaiser yesterday:

We’re now vaccinating people 16 to 64 whose medical conditions may put them at higher risk of complications due to COVID-19. Since we’re aware of each of our member’s medical history, we’re already reaching out to those who have these conditions to schedule a vaccine appointment.

We’re also vaccinating those who live in congregate (group) settings, people 65 and older, and people who work in:

Childcare
Education
Emergency services
Food and agriculture
Health care
Long-term care facilities
Public transit/airports and commercial airlines
Congregate (group) residential settings (shelters, jails, group homes)

I don't fit into any of these groups, I'll bide my time.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 19 March 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link

This is patently false and perhaps one of the worst things I've read on this thread (which is full of quite a bit of typical entitled SF/Bay Area bullshit).

Accurate or not, his message read to me as a complaint that the restrictions weren't strict enough to prevent line-jumping. I don't see anyone in this thread advocating line-jumping, am I wrong?

I'm sorry about your friend's uncle.

lukas, Friday, 19 March 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link

xp - got the same Kaiser email.

sarahell, Friday, 19 March 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link

Ok I honestly didn't read any sarcasm in that post... I offer a sincere apology to rogermexico.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 March 2021 19:24 (three years ago) link

goddammit albert i was just about to pop off with a sincere fuck you, but apology accepted and happy to hug it out at the bay area location of your choice when that's allowed.

obv i'm aware of what the tiers state. that conditions on the ground have devolved to pinky-swear/honor system is a matter of fact, and i'm aware of clinicians well outside the "oh no it's bougie" one medical orbit with nothing to gain personally who are advocating on a whisper basis that people just go in and sign the paper and get vaccinated.

i'm not doing that, but state/region/county level communication and execution have been enough of a cluster that i understand why it's happening, why a provider would advocate for it, and why a person who is not me might do it. it seems like we're both angry about that?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 19 March 2021 21:37 (three years ago) link

My mixed feelings boil down to this: that I should really wait until every senior citizen from Albania to Zimbabwe has had their shot(s); that's the ethical thing to do.

But I also know damn well that's not how it works logistically; that me heroically waiting does not mean that the grandmother in Zimbabwe will get hers any sooner.The US & UK are hoarding vaccines while something like 100 countries have not given a single dose. Therein lies the quandary.

Maybe this should really be on one of the Covid threads.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 19 March 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link

UK is #1, Canada #2, but the US is well down the hoarder list:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/contracts-purchasing-agreements.html

bulb after bulb, Friday, 19 March 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link

Newsom just announced every Californian age 16+ will be eligible for the vaccine by April 26th, 2021.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 20 March 2021 00:40 (three years ago) link

Of note

Artists living in SF! Applications for the city's new UBI program are open. The city could pay you $1000 a month, no strings attached https://t.co/siZCmHkbMO

— Nastia Voynovskaya (@nananastia) March 25, 2021

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link

To qualify:
📌Must be 18+
📌Have an artistic practice "rooted in a historically marginalized community"
📌Be a resident in one of 13 San Francisco zip codes hit hardest by the pandemic
📌Not exceed a certain income threshold

More from @chloeveltman: https://t.co/E0Rh0EZfwr

— Nastia Voynovskaya (@nananastia) March 25, 2021

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link

What does 'Have an artistic practice "rooted in a historically marginalized community"' mean?

DJI, Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

it means if you are a POC and your work is connected to being a POC

sarahell, Thursday, 25 March 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

i guess it could also apply to LGBTQ artists

sarahell, Thursday, 25 March 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

as opposed to being an artist that does commercial theater or SMOB stuff of the white supremacist tradition (Symphony, Museum, Opera, Ballet)

sarahell, Thursday, 25 March 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link

Feel like i know some folks who would qualify...

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Thursday, 25 March 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link

Yeah -- I think you would. And as far as zip codes go, it's pretty much, the ones where the remaining low-income people actually live in SF

sarahell, Thursday, 25 March 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link

And undoubtedly now, the struggling artists of Oakland are gonna be like, "Hey Libby, when do we get our $6k?" and everyone will be mad at the mayor, yet again, because San Francisco gets nicer things than we do.

sarahell, Thursday, 25 March 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

I still think San Francisco should pay some kinda tax to Oakland for providing housing/workspace to prop up the arts & culture of their gentrified city

sarahell, Thursday, 25 March 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link

Better than nothing, but I expect a fair amount of uproar from those rejected for whatever reason.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 March 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link

"SMOB"?

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 March 2021 19:24 (three years ago) link

keep going, you're almost there

lukas, Thursday, 25 March 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link

A 6-month program for a small subset of artists sounds more like a grant program than a "UBI."

DJI, Thursday, 25 March 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link

Agreed...

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 March 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link

I still think San Francisco should pay some kinda tax to Oakland for providing housing/workspace to prop up the arts & culture of their gentrified city

So OTM.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 25 March 2021 21:17 (three years ago) link

OTM but replace SF with Silicon Valley employees (and probably more pointedly: Silicon Valley NIMBY/low-density proponents).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 25 March 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link

The pandemic made me forget just how myopically outdated Gen-X Oakland bias vs. SF was lol

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 25 March 2021 21:28 (three years ago) link

Fair points on myopically outdated and Gen X.

We could zoom out though, the tax base inequality in California isn't just a state issue, it also could be seen as an issue with some global impact as well: https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2021-03-09/kern-county-approves-new-oil-and-gas-wells-over-environmental-objections

How about start by repealing Prop 13? How many millions of dollars a year in taxes does Chevron get a break on from that disastrous ballot measure?

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 25 March 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link

Actually I think SF, Oakland and Berkeley should all be one city. If need be we can let Emeryville stay as the weird little corporate colony née vestigial card club company town in the midst of San Franberkland. Alameda and Piedmont are basically weird little colonies in the midst of Oakland already.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 25 March 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link

Emeryville is a weird place... barely any population, but an enormous tax base: Pixar, Genentech, IKEA, etc. Where does all that money go?

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 March 2021 22:24 (three years ago) link

There is a free emery-go-round shuttle...

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 25 March 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link

Oh that's right... that'll get you from gross BART to the gorgeous Bay Street Experience.

Pretty sure both Target & Home Depot are in Eville as well.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 March 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link

Do they still have that indoor food market?

kinder, Thursday, 25 March 2021 22:56 (three years ago) link

xpost

Apparently Best Buy is actually in Oakland but the Office Depot across the road is in Emeryville. Target though "resides half in each city, and therefore splits its sales tax revenue between the two municipalities."

(Found by checking on what happened to that Wal-Mart that used to be on Hegenburger Rd. They apparently pulled out cause Oakland raised the minimum wage in 2016. Apologies if that's old news here.)

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 25 March 2021 23:25 (three years ago) link

yes they have a nicer indoor food market now, though, at the moment, I think several of the spots have shut down. (xpost)

akm, Thursday, 25 March 2021 23:31 (three years ago) link

A 6-month program for a small subset of artists sounds more like a grant program than a "UBI."

― DJI, Thursday, March 25, 2021 1:48 PM (six hours ago)

It is -- it's being administered not by the city but by YBCA. Apparently once they determine eligibility, the "winners" will be chosen at random from the larger pool of eligible applicants. YBCA has kinda "pivoted" in a weird way in the past few years that I have mixed feelings about. It's similar to the thing I was talking about in the NFT thread about "the art world" kinda appropriating things of value into "the art world" ... and now it is social justice/activism.

sarahell, Friday, 26 March 2021 03:31 (three years ago) link

The pandemic made me forget just how myopically outdated Gen-X Oakland bias vs. SF was lol

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, March 25, 2021 2:28 PM (six hours ago)

I was saying this in the context of the huge disparity in arts funding between San Francisco and Oakland, which I spent almost 20 years dealing with first hand. Maybe you know more about this topic than I do, I don't know. But considering you took my comment out of context, I'm guessing you are more interested in making a broader point about statewide economics in general, which is more significant than just the issue of arts funding. But the fact that you read my post as just being about "outdated" bias, makes me think you actually don't really know much about arts funding in the Bay Area. Not saying that makes me better than you or anything, just ... y'know, maybe chill on the condescending a bit?

sarahell, Friday, 26 March 2021 03:37 (three years ago) link

Sort of want an explanation of that, tbh. The bias exists well beyond Gen X, too-- I don't know a single person who'd rather live in SF than Oakland, mostly because SF is filled with a population of the most oblivious douchebags who've ever stepped on soil.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Friday, 26 March 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link

I remember a few months ago, there was this glimmer of (Pandemic)hope, that basically went like this: all the techbraw douche-canoes can work on Zoom, so they're going to move back to Suburban Annapolis or the Hamptons or wherever they're from, and that rents will drop dramatically in San Francisco and then all the punks and artists and weirdos can move back and it'll be just like it was in 1986.

There may of sliver of that happening somewhere, but I think it's still hopelessly naive.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 March 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link

is the grant funded from money people paid to enter YBCA's Dream House scam?

akm, Friday, 26 March 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

lol

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 March 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

leeeeroy jenkins

San Francisco rent rebounds coming in hotter and sooner than we expected. With vaccine rollouts and office reopenings accelerating, the pendulum is starting to swing back. Full @ApartmentList rent data/report out next week... pic.twitter.com/p8lR2HNiZF

— Igor Popov (@IAPopov) March 26, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 26 March 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

the greatest trick the NIMBYs ever played was getting people to believe that tech employees were the problem

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 26 March 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link

^^

DJI, Friday, 26 March 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link


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