Bernard Manning Has Died

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and as I sense the affection from the mass of the British public, I know that I am the one having the last laugh.

hurr, no you aint.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Mark, have you actually looked at anything other than ILE today?

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:47 (sixteen years ago) link

What are the odds on Ian Brady being the next celebrity to pop his clogs?

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:48 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost yeah, why?

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:49 (sixteen years ago) link

remember his appearance on Mrs Merton? he was arrogant and obnoxoious of course but he still managed to outsmart them really. Ahearne seemed angered by his behaviour afterwards, maybe frustrated that she didn't manage to show him up as perhaps intended (why would you invite him on otherwise? clearly she was not a fan). he didn't need other people to make him look a pillock tho innit.

blueski, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:53 (sixteen years ago) link

What are the odds on Ian Brady being the next celebrity to pop his clogs?

ready with that Taking Sides Manning vs Brady thread then, Tom.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Brady and Manning: Pride of Manchester

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:56 (sixteen years ago) link

The Manchester thing reminded me of Brady that and "I know that I am the one having the last laugh"

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:57 (sixteen years ago) link

He wrote is own obit. It's a laff riot.

-- Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:37 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

LOL @ daily mail's sub US conservative media terminology "reviled by liberals". WTF.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:02 (sixteen years ago) link

surely that's a well used term traditionally here too

blueski, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I haven't noticed, if so, EG I don't recall Thatcher running down "the liberals".

Pashmina, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Not really tho. To me a liberal is someone just slightly to the left of a Tory.

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I was going to add a comment on the mail's site, but I couldn't be arsed, which sez it all wrt my opinion on manning, I suppose.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

remember his appearance on Mrs Merton? he was arrogant and obnoxoious of course but he still managed to outsmart them really. Ahearne seemed angered by his behaviour afterwards, maybe frustrated that she didn't manage to show him up as perhaps intended (why would you invite him on otherwise? clearly she was not a fan). he didn't need other people to make him look a pillock tho innit.

-- blueski, Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:53 AM (Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:53 AM) Bookmark Link

This the same Mrs Merton show in which she said that many non-whites in this country were born here and were therefore British and he said something along the lines of "Jesus was born in a stable but we don't call him a fuckin horse"?

In what way did he outsmart them?

onimo, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Richard Wilson was the other guest on that wasn't he - he didn't try and be funny so much as just be all "yr an idiot", which probably worked in his favour

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone see Jim Bowen being interviewed about Manning by Gavin Esler on Newsnight? Good old Jim!

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:17 (sixteen years ago) link

i found out yesterday, while working at an awards show, and my thumbs instinctively turned upwards in a fonzie-esque 'eyyyyyy' gesture.

i was woken at 8 this morning, after 2 hours' sleep, to hear the retards on the bbc breakfast telly reading out emails they'd received, all along the 'he was funny and he was brave, people are too sensitive' variety, and the woman earnestly inviting viewers to write in if they had an opinion. i'm bored shitless of opinions, and i'm glad he's dead.

stevie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm bored shitless of opinions, and I'm glad he's dead.

This is how Nazi Germany ended.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:47 (sixteen years ago) link

That was Eva Braun's last words, folks!

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:58 (sixteen years ago) link

In what way did he outsmart them?

he didn't lose his cool unlike co-guest Richard Wilson (who looked pretty silly trying to reason with or get one up on him). he was probably annoyed that he'd been treated so badly by them afterwards (not much sympathy here of course) but he was probably still the least agitated person involved in the whole thing at the end of it. they got him on the show to embarrass him but it didn't really work - it's not as if it did his reputation any further harm really.

blueski, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:02 (sixteen years ago) link

what did Jim Bowen say?

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I expect he praised him in the same way Stan Boardman and pretty much all the stand-ups of their generation have done. A lot of them probably retain a big 'don't speak ill of the dead, at least not in public' thing that has been lost on generations since (not too bothered about this myself) - not that this matters much when most of them would agree with his attiude overall.

blueski, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:05 (sixteen years ago) link

He kept calling Gavin Esler, Gavin, and to demonstrate that you can tell jokes about anyone and anything told him a Scottish joke:

"Look, Gavin, it's like this... I could say, for instance, that one day Gavin Esler dies and goes to heaven and you reach the gate, Gavin, and St. Peter says, 'Clear off, we're not making porridge for one'"

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:06 (sixteen years ago) link

This is how Nazi Germany ended.

godwin inversion!!

stevie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:08 (sixteen years ago) link

From that daily mail page

A great comedian - shame there aren't more of them to put the PC brigade and the Metropolitan elite in their place. God Bless.

- John Bush, London, UK

Now that man should get a Knighthood - not Rushdie.

- Joe De Hoop, Brighton, Sussex

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:11 (sixteen years ago) link

i guess it shows he was loved by some south of Watford too.

blueski, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:15 (sixteen years ago) link

the Metropolitan elite

Who they?

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link

He means YOU, Tom.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought he meant Jews

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:24 (sixteen years ago) link

You can't give knighthoods to dead people, durr...

Unless he meant John Bush.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:25 (sixteen years ago) link

re. mrs merton -- would the characters in 'the royle family' like bernard manning?

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:28 (sixteen years ago) link

He wasn't that popular, he hadn't been on the telly for years and his act hadn't changed either

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:31 (sixteen years ago) link

but enough about eddie izzard...

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:32 (sixteen years ago) link

um, wasn't Manning Jewish?

Anyway I never forgave him for publicly traducing Peter Cook (who was sitting next to him) on the Joan Rivers Show in the mid-eighties with remarks of the calibre of "You used to be very funny, Peter" and (to camera) "He's lost his timing. I work every night, you see."

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I think he was Jewish, but I imagine John Bush, London, UK wasn't aware of that fact

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I expect he praised him in the same way Stan Boardman and pretty much all the stand-ups of their generation have done

I was listening to Jim Davidson phoning into the Jeremy Vine Show earlier, saying that Manning wasn't racist because he didn't think he was racist, rather he just thought he was funny because he made people laugh.

So, yeah, we're rid of Manning, now for the rest of the fucktards that think asking a black audience memeber if they're enjoying their night out in the comedy club because it makes a difference from swinging from trees funny, the ones that kept Bernard Manning in a job for so many more years than was ever necessary.

(not that I'm defending the first half of Davidson's argument at all, but there's a glimmer of a point in the second part - if no-one laughed, surely he and his ilk would just give up?)

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Manning left the country???

JTS, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyway I never forgave him for publicly traducing Peter Cook (who was sitting next to him) on the Joan Rivers Show

(xp) I actually thought the subtext of that was "You used to be very funny Peter - what are you doing wasting your time with this shit". Which was fair comment.

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I watched it at the time and it seemed much more snide rather than admonitory, but fair enough, Ms Rivers didn't exactly give PC much to do (sometimes having enough FUCK YOU money can work against a performer)...

Ailsa xpost: well, Andy Cameron's still going...

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:47 (sixteen years ago) link

now for the rest of the fucktards that think asking a black audience memeber if they're enjoying their night out in the comedy club because it makes a difference from swinging from trees funny, the ones that kept Bernard Manning in a job for so many more years than was ever necessary.

you'd think black people would stop going to the gigs after that many years!

blueski, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link

A bit like David Cameron liking the Smiths innit.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I just figured "metropolitan elite" referred to london cultural stranglehold over uk.

I'm wary of generalisation wrt uk/northern working class, b/c I AM ONE, but I remember Manning turning up on I think "OTT" which'll have been late '70's/early '80's and my mother leaping up to turn the TV over before he even opened his mouth, I asked her what it was all about - she was disgusted both by him and his act. We were a bit like the Royles, but a little more pretentious/upmarket, maybe.

I don't recall any of my aunties & uncles liking manning's steez either, they all thought he was repulsive. My father in law thinks chubby brown is funny, but thought manning was beyond the pale.

One thing that annoyed me reading that mail comments page was all those bellends making out that manning represented northern WC humour. I'm northern WC, so are most of my IRL friends. I think manning was a hateful, unfunny shit, or at least his act was that. I can't remember anyone I know ever, ever expressing any appreciation for the guy. What a load of fucking bollocks.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link

David Cameron, Andy Cameron - Which Cameron Makes You Laugh Most?

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

The Pash OTM

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

you guys are obsessed with Cameron

blueski, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Well he did release two of the most memorable football songs ever

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link

True Lies was a stinker tho

blueski, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link

What Pash said.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Cameron made a football record? I thought the only ball game he knew was the Eton Wall game.

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, re that tirade against Peter Cook. I didn't know pete was "in character"!!

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:00 (sixteen years ago) link


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