Fighter Jets both old and new - A picture thread...

I literally can't imagine what this must have looked/sounded like !

"On the morning of March 18, 1,329 bombers and 733 fighters of the US Eighth Air Force formed up over England and set a course for northern Germany. The target for 1,221 of the bombers was Berlin. This mission, the largest wartime raid on Berlin, was intended to support the Russian advance by attacking rail stations and tank factories in the city."

I have friends who live close to the Minneapolis airport and definitely not as loud as jets right overhead.

But they were flying kind of low and I don’t know if I’ve ever heard a prop plane with more than one engine before - they were sort of buzzing in and out of tune with each other so very droney

Speaking of F4s, due to the situation between Greece and Turkey , I've learned that the Greek AF still has around 30 F4s in service !

As for the sound of modern jets, since my parents live near the Bourget airport, near Paris, where there's an international air show every two years, I'm quite used to see/hear them fly over and they're noisy af !

TOMBOT to thread, kinda curious about his take on the f-35 debacle, where the money went, and if it's a good plane

I don't have a lot of good insight into how the F-35 went so wrong, other than collusion between parts of the Pentagon and Lockheed Martin to force the DoD to put all its eggs in one basket.

Here's a decent piece on what might ought to happen to avoid repeating those mistakes in the future: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/how-air-force-could-avoid-f-35-trap-47737

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35947/navy-f-a-18-squadron-commanders-take-on-ai-repeatedly-beating-real-pilot-in-dogfight

Fun read.