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(I just woke up and only slept 3 hours, apologies.)

― no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, don't apologise! I don't see this as a "social ill", anyway, unless it's as a result of Thatcher's dictum "there is no such thing as society", perhaps. It's just some selfish shitheads who think they can do what the fuck they want, and if anyone complains when it fucks them, them up in some way, then it's the complainer who's at fault in their view.

I have never seen of experienced "happyslapping" or anti immigrant hysteria round here yet.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:37 (eighteen years ago) link

You mean ASBOs, Jon? They're great. We should have an ILX competition for "most unique ASBO".

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:40 (eighteen years ago) link

In Upstate NY, my nearest neighbour was over a mile away. I never had a problem with noise. In London, my nearest neighbour is under 10 feet away. This takes on a different dimension in how much their inconsideration and lack of respect impinges upon my life and its quality.

― MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Jon, where I live is pretty rural, but I live in a terraced house, w/2 adjoining properties, both of which, until recenlty were occupied by shitheads.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:44 (eighteen years ago) link

This past weekend was particularly bad - they were out until 2am on Saturday night, playing music in the garden really loud, bellowing along, shouting at one another at the tops of their voices.

Oh noes my weekend is ruined!

― no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Jon - GO FUCK YOURSELF.

― MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link

sunday morning 7am, we left the shoreditch houseparty

sunday morning 8am, bloke with machete turns up, informing he would like the noise turned down...NOW

the approach worked. im not sure they'll be having another one for some time.

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I once asked, very politely, for some neighbours to turn the noise down.

While holding a hammer.

There is a pick axe in our back garden.

However, when I've not had a lot of sleep, I don't trust myself not to use it. (e.g. right f*cking now, for instance.)

― MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I had a noisy upstairs neighbor. I always fantasized about writing a note that said "Shut the fuck up" and "attaching" it to his door with several axe blows.

― geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link

You should've wrote it in blood, too.

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:55 (eighteen years ago) link

"S4T4N S3Z SHUT TEH FUCK UP LOL" w/a pentagram. In blood.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Jon - GO FUCK YOURSELF.

-- MIS Information (masonicboo...) (webmail), July 11th, 2005 8:47 AM. (kate) (later) (link

Lighten the fuck up, you old self-important hag.

Anyway, the best method to deal with this is to cut their fucking power (if you can).

― no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I think inviting a few friends over for some weirdness and chanting/murmuring, and have the neighbors wake up to find some bloddy meat on the door with some ashen symbols might freak them out enough to make them move.

― geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:00 (eighteen years ago) link

All of this stuff is wonderful fantasy material, however, if any of it was actually done, the result would be jail for the person who is actually the victim of the assault.

Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit, you walking abortion?

― MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahaha you should definitely do this. And take pictures.

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link

(The funny thing is I don't even know why you hold me in such contempt? You need to lighten the fuck up.) xpost to kate

― no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

(i.e. the noise assault. I have had 10 hours of sleep in the past 3 days, and I'm at an emotional complete loose end and neither thinking nor typing straight.)

x-post

― MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

my nutnut great uncle attached a note to his neigbors' door with a giant carving knife. if nothing else, this kind of thing shows that you mean business.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I sympathise with Kate, but then I was in no real mood to hear loud, CRAP music (because it's always crap when it's coming from your neighbours, see also booming car stereos - I might not mind if it was stuff I actually liked but no, never) last weekend, considering the mood many of us are in.

I guess letting your neighbours know you're planning on a party is no good as the neighbours will probably object in advance anyway - still it would be courteous to give warning before inflicting your rubbish music on others, in many cases. People are selfish eh?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Honestly, if it were a party every few months or so - even maybe once a month during the summer - I would be fine with being given advance warning. (the neighbours on the other side have done exactly that.)

These people do it EVERY FREAKING WEEKEND at this point.

I don't think it even crosses their mind that they might be doing something which others might object to - as evidenced by the first time it happened last year, when not just myself, but two other neighbours, separately, asked them to turn the noise down, and were ignored at best, and threatened at worst.

― MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link

the problem is that people who make repeated "anti-social" violations after they've been politely requested to stop by their neighbours are not generally the type to give a shit about the feelings of others or respond in a courteous manner to complaints made.

that's where the machete comes in.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I think you are TOO OLD and HATE FUN. Parties every weekend! Oh no!!! Next thing you know, they'll be staying up to watch the eleven o'clock movie..... ON A SCHOOLNIGHT, PEOPLE!!!

xpost to kate

― no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Deep breath, count to ten, walk away, if you lose your temper, the assholes win.

Deep breath, count to ten.

Deep breath.

― MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.noiseabatementsociety.com/images/2003winners.jpg

Which one are you?

― no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

There's only one lady, silly me!

― no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

jon, fuck off.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:16 (eighteen years ago) link

The wagon train of self-rightous Britishes circles up....

― no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Not everyone gets to sleep in on the weekend, Jon, and might need to get to sleep before 2 am.

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.noiseabatementsociety.com/images/2003winners.jpg

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― no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Not everyone gets to sleep in on the weekend, Jon, and might need to get to sleep before 2 am.

Yes, but why should we have to change for you? I think it is a "community standard" that people should be given more leeway for noise on a weekend.

― no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Only if their music is good.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Which it never is.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

There is a reason that people move to the suburbs. Cause we are old and we hate fun and we want quiet at night. When the community is a residential neighbourhood, of families and working people, it is not unreasonable to expect some respect and consideration.

Like it's not unreasonable to expect that a thread requesting genuine helpful advice will continue on a helpful tone and not degenerate into trolling and spamming.

― MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't really think of Streatham as the suburbs!

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:26 (eighteen years ago) link

oh god. this hippy trance oxford student fuck used to live opposite me. i'd have to go over at 4 in the morn to tell him to pipe down his goth-dance bullshit, and get fucked with in return. sorely deserved an icepick in the face. glad i moved out or it would have come to blows.

― N_RQ, Monday, 11 July 2005 12:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Suburbs or not, it's a residential street in a family neighbourhood. It's not a student neighbourhood or a party pen. There is ONE HOUSEHOLD of people disturbing an entire street of people. No one else on the street behaves like this.

― MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I went to a student house party in Bromley once on a Friday night. People had spilled out into the driveway. On one side of the house was a railway but on the other a joined house. A woman in her 30s came out and politely asked us to keep the noise down as her and her baby were trying to sleep. How the hell do you argue with that? I didn't wanna be there anyway and it was a laaame party so respect to her for calling us out, and I felt sorry for her. Even if it had been a Saturday night I think she was within her right. You don't just assume it's cool to have a late night party where you live regardless of your neighbours situations imo. This was well and truly suburbia though.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link

noise is noise. even when i was a student, i didn't necessarily want horrible hippy trance being blasted in during the small hours. i don't know what a student neighbourhood is really (quite often in suburbia, i would have thought), though growing up in cambridge i remember students coming to MY house to tell ME to keep it down.

― N_RQ, Monday, 11 July 2005 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link

It took a long time for Dr Vick and I to convince Mark that anything south of the river constituted "part of London"!

I can't say I get much noise disturbance in the bit of Streatham I live in, but then I'm in the "nice" bit up by the Common/Rookery. George Galloway apparently owns a house about three streets away from me, but I've never seen him anywhere in SW16 or indeed SW-anywhere.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Gareth, I hope these thoughtless fuckers who have house parties till 7am aren't your friends.

(on the other hand, they live in Shoreditch, so maybe any of their neighbours who haven't lived there more than a decade deserve every last decibel)

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link

This past weekend was particularly bad - they were out until 2am on Saturday night, playing music in the garden really loud, bellowing along, shouting at one another at the tops of their voices

The exact same thing happened to me on Saturday, but I didn't make a big deal about it because it was a Saturday night. I guess if I had to work this weekend I would have been pissed, but under the circumstances it was just a little annoying.

― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link

In Shoreditch people bang on your wall if you're being too quiet. Oh yeah, the party never stops in Sho'diz.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Can I belatedly add a ;) to my post - I meant it much more playfully than it's come out (albeit many a true word etc.)

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

(I kind of don't understand why someone in their early 20s would bother to boggle at the idea that someone in their mid 30s would like to get some sleep on at least one weekend out of the month.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I suppose in a way it's nice that people were having parties at all last weekend.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:01 (eighteen years ago) link

i've really swung between that impulse, and the impulse to get drunk in front of news 24.

― N_RQ, Monday, 11 July 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

if it's every weekend, then yes, these noizey people are being douches. like, take the party somewhere else for once. what kills me, tho, is that at my place we maybe have a party once a year, and this one crazy lady, without fail, complains, even when it's not loud! my next-door neighbors (both in their 40s, so it's not an age thing) warned me about her. apparently she calls the cops every time, but they have more important things to do since we do live on the edge of bed-stuy and whatnot. i wonder if she complains about their helicopters aka "ghetto birds" cruising the hood at 4 am?

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, take last night. We'd got some garden torches, the kind that charge of a day via sunlight.

We were just about to sit out in the garden last night. Glass of wine, night sky, you get the picture.

Except that next doors lad has just got a new girlfriend but hasn't discovered curtains.

Massive dud.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

You meant classic didn't you?

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

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