(Incidentally, i'm aware it's based on Thackeray's 19th c. novel)
― pete s, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 20:05 (twenty years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 20:06 (twenty years ago) link
this seems to me to be a pretty subjective reaction, because i dont find any part of the film "still and lifeless"--sometimes the characters themselves are, but the film itself never is. the docking sequence is beautiful, and the strauss is perfect because the machines are dancing.
― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 20:40 (twenty years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 21:02 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 21:04 (twenty years ago) link
― N_RQ, Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link
eg the day she, sistrah becky, me and becky's boyf aplyed DESERT ISLAND DVDS and i sighed audibly when 2001 was mentioned and wz quite korrektly taken to task
psi have now seen clockwork o. (as in "o dear")
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huey (Huey), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer: correspondingly more exaggerated mixing is a scarifying error. (lat, Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Accusations of "no sense of humor" several years xpost: fucked. "A clod with dialogue"? Strangelove is one of the most quoted films ever, and when his characters say banal things, it's quite purposeful.(except in Spartacus, in which he had no script input)
Barry Lyndon is a smarter, subtler film about desire and violence than A Clockwork Orange.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
by sense of humour i meant the actually funny kind
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link
I used to love Kubrick in my revering great artists phase but right now the only films i can imagine sitting down to watch again are Barry Lyndon and Eyes Wide Shut (which really is a comedy i think in the classical sense, much like Fight Club, another film often taken too seriously.)
― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
it doesn't QUITE rescue ews for me but if a film can cause a book that good, well done film
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― jones (actual), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― jones (actual), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link
does anyone know where the jg ballard line about kubrick quoted here is pulled from?
― jones (actual), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― jones (actual), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― jones (actual), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― jones (actual), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link
"A clod with dialogue"? Strangelove is one of the most quoted films ever, and when his characters say banal things, it's quite purposeful.
Dialogue being quoted != good dialogue (cf. KEVIN SMITH) (tho I like the dialogue in Strangelove tons more than any KS hoohah) (plz don't get all Alex-in-NYC about KS now, folx).
Also, utilitarian, "purposeful" dialogue != good dialogue, either! By "clod", I was thinking in terms of Eyes Wide Shut mostly, which is just some 3-hour-long dry philosophical exposition about booty (as I recall) where folks talk like they're having SK shove an etiquette book up their prostate. Might've been the point, to make these characters act naturalistically but sound unnatural (& I don't even think they ACTED naturalistically, either!), but that doesn't make the dialogue enjoyable or interesting to experience.
Of course, leave it to the SK skeptic to be a pain in the ass about the last film SK did.
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Kubrick's a fanboy's dream: obsessive, nerdy, reclusive, capable of constructing self-contained worlds from which neither light nor sound (nor occasionally any sense at all) can escape - but he puts you there, inside this impossible place.
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― jones (actual), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
I didn't mean being quoted by skateboarders.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link
Isn't this true of nearly every Hollywood director though?
It surely encapsulates the majority of losers I went to film school with who left behind their podunk hometowns & trekked off to Hollywood in search of fame and acceptance.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 10 March 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
i watched Clockwork on a tiny tv with a weird magnifying screen put in front of it to make it look all grainy and big, it was spooky and unpleasant but i was pretty stoned at the time
― jones (actual), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link
And I have no idea what you mean by "technology".
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
BTW, I don't recall Kael being at all equivocal on The Shining; she panned it as "the first pompous haunted-house movie," and for once I agree.
I think Alex is glamorized in ACO, but not endorsed. It's still a minor film of his, and really hits the skids once he returns HOME.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 March 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link