2008 Primaries Thread

^yea this my guess too. though if obama cleans up the next few states to come, we might see the endorsements before 3/4.

*well* before 3/4 is what i meant

i don't even assume that all 3 will go for obama -- i think that it's a bit naive, honestly

my guess is that edwards will endorse first, richardson will endorse when a clear front-runner becomes apparent, angling for a veep nod or cabinet slot, and that gore will not endorse before the general

it makes more sense politically for Richardson to go with Hillary

unless he really cares about and thinks he could get veep

Gore and Richardson have obvious Clinton (Bill) connections, so if they do make a strategic endorsement, it may be in that direction.

i don't even assume that all 3 will go for obama -- i think that it's a bit naive, honestly

yea you're right, i was mainly thinking gore and edwards. even edwards i really don't know. richardson is totally up in the air of course.

I dunno about that - lotta bad blood between Gore and the Clintons

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edwards can't afford to wait very long if he wants his endorsement to still have impact --he has to reach his supporters before they are already fully incorporated into the other two camps

ok, that's all

It would make sense for Richardson to endorse Hillary, but then why hasn't he endorsed her yet? One of the networks asked him last night if he was ready to make an endorsement, even after having spent the Super Bowl with Bill Clinton, and he was still cagey. Although at one point it seemed as though he was saying he might prefer Obama if not for the fact of his long history with the Clintons.

i really don't see gore endorsing clinton, i don't know. i think either he won't endorse anyone, or he'll endorse obama

"Clinton poisoned the '00 election for Gore" is one available narrative

He might know that he makes more sense as an Obama veep given that hispanics already like Hillary a lot. It also might be bad for him to endorse Hillary and then see his State vote the other way. Or he just might not be sure who he really likes best.

honestly, i think an obama / richardson ticket would be very formidable in the general election

rainbow coalition lol

hmm haven't thought of that before but does sound like a fairly impressive combo - Richardson gets to flout his foreign policy exp and pull with Latinos, Obama handles the "vision thing"... altho I don't see Bill being a very effective "attack dog"

I like Richardson, but think he's a bit of a disaster as a politician, and such a ticket would raise a serious Dems=lol, minorities problem

how do "brokered convetions" work?

if it ends up being one, does ted kennedy's support for obama mean anything?

cuz like he seems like a guy that would pull out old favors and naked pixx he's had for years to get shit done....

Obama/Salazar could be interesting because both 'transcend' their designated racial identity in ways that appeal in big-white-majority cultures

among Dems at least, Obama seems to have a bigger problem with Northeastern white ethnics than with rural western whites

obama/napolitano

"white ethnics" == italians? portuguee? what

Sebelius better than Napolitano

I'd be tempted to say that Obama picking anyone vaguely Blue-Doggish would cost him some of his starry-eyed collegiate "Change" acolytes, but given said kiddies' parents' utter denial of Clinton's triangulating Reaganism, probably not a big deal.

obama choosing another female pol as vp would play as "ZOMG ULTIMATE SNUB"

"white ethnics" == italians? portuguee? what

portuguese - lol, Southern New England. Irish, italian, jewish, polish, what have you.

obama choosing another female pol as vp would play as "ZOMG ULTIMATE SNUB"

-- elmo argonaut, Wednesday, February 6, 2008 3:23 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

plus napolitano would siphon AZ votes from mccain

too bad moynihan's dead

um, I know Teddy's the most confirmed of legislators and all, but is Obama/Kennedy completely out of the question? just asking.

terrible idea

OBAMA/MORRISSEY more likely

talk about fighting past battles, who wants an election that focuses on Chappaquiddick?!

This thread needs more:

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0703/cqhagel_0305.jpg

He's a perfect match for Senator Obama.

Can you see the headlines, gabbs? "OBAMA/CHAPPAQUIDDICK"

is that Frasier's Dad?

Obama/Gore unveil Policy of Truth

is that Frasier's Dad?

Wow

yes, thanks, I'm familiar with the Teddy the K boogeyman, guys, I'm just trying of the ultimate guy/girl to get Obama over to the urban grandmas (incl mine)

Obama needs the Dem equivalent of Henry Cabot Lodge.

Obama/Harold Ford

the ultimate guy/girl might well be hillary, if she'll take it

just asking

just answered!

No way would she take it, unless she already has hired assassins lying in wait. xp

i think obama/hilary would be awesome

if he picks Richardson, Dave Chappelle will look like Nostradamus

I'd read about a dozen variations of this line from Dowd's column this morning: "Tuesday’s voting showed only that the voters, like moviegoers, don’t want a pat ending."

Is this the dumbest thing ever? It suggests that voters as a monolithic body decided to split their vote in order to prolong the primary. As opposed to the prolonging being a natural result from the split votes. What exactly do Dowd and commentators believe is happening? That there's a giant voter cabal determining voting patterns consciously? Or is she making a Jungian call here - that the US voter group unconscious is prolonging the race?

Obama's breakthrough among whites - http://www.slate.com/id/2183835/nav/ais/

yeah thats retarded - im pretty sure obama supporters and hillary supporters both hoped the race would end yesterday with a decisive win

haha Dowd is just being lazy