2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

Damn! That is really impressive.

Onion classic this week.

i was watching some of the cable news last night and the daily show this AM which show "highlights" of the reaction and am i wrong or is this speech -- this great, thoughtful, speech -- actually going to hurt obama???

that seemed to be how it was being received.

even through all the bush stuff, the last 8 years and the war and everything i guess i always thought that ppl could be convinced if they just heard this said the right way by the right person -- not some d-bag like kerry -- but now even this might just get chewed up in the maw of all those hideous white asshole talking heads....like that makes me more depressed than 8 years of bush ever could, that maybe now there's not even a chance of any kind of real dialogue about race or anything else.

It's been a conservative strategy for some time now to turn white guilt on its head and make it seem as though it's actually white people who are the perennial victims of both racism (or "reverse racism") AND false accusations of racism. It reminds me of that Zvi Rex quote: "Germany will never forgive the Jews for the Holocaust."

Obviously this perverse twisting of the race issue wouldn't work if it didn't play on people's very real guilt/denial regarding their own racism and their fears of black people.

Obama took a step toward addressing that, but it's a really tricky issue.

It was a smart speech. Generally, most people don't trust people smarter than themselves.

However at a Thursday press availability in Terra Haute, Indiana after a report surfaced that the Clinton campaign was pushing the Wright story to superdelegates arguing that the relationship hurt Obama's electibility -– Clinton refused to deny that her campaign was pushing the story.

When asked, Clinton ignored the Wright portion of the question and said “well my campaign has been making the case that I am the most electable that I have said that for a year or more that I am the person best able to make the challenges that our country faces as commander in chief.”

When Clinton was then asked specifically if her campaign was pushing the Wright story –- she shrugged and took the next question, ignoring the reporter.

Isn't it Terre Haute?

What a fucking twat xpost

anyway, that's disturbing. But ultimatey I think it's better it comes out now than in the GE as said above.

If Gore or Kerry had made such a speech in 2000 or 2004, unless it was at the convention almost everyone would either read/see the highlights or read a transcript of the speech. Now folks can watch it anytime or read the transcript immediately.

Reading about the runup to the Iraq War has been a reminder of how soundbites and headlines have been essential to campaigning and politicking in the past few decades. We may be changing to a higher level of substance, as YouTube replaces CNN Headline News as a source of information.

I think Obama's dealt with this well - addressed the issue in a high-profile speech that caused a lot of chatter, then immediately getting out a series of statements on other matters that are of undeniably higher importance to the country and the campaign (the war/the economy). I don't see how else he could've handled this. Wright will damage his momentum over the next couple weeks but I don't think this will last too long - tho echoes of it will probably return in the GE once he gets the nom.

Is Joe six pack spending half an hour a day watching speeches on youtube?

xpost

the worst thing - as has been already noted - is that Clinton is using this stuff to damage his standing with DEMOCRATS, which is bad for the party.

Is Joe six pack spending half an hour a day watching speeches on youtube?

Jill Sixpack with a deskjob and headphones is.

2 million views in two days.

A McCain campaign aide actively pushed an incendiary, racially-charged video that uses the controversial words of Barack Obama's pastor to tar Obama as unpatriotic -- despite the fact that McCain himself has suggested that Obama shouldn't be held accountable for Wright's views.

The aide, Soren Dayton, who works in McCain's political department, has been suspended from the campaign, a McCain spokesperson, Jill Hazelbaker, confimed to me.

lol dude posted the link on twitter

the worst thing - as has been already noted - is that Clinton is using this stuff to damage his standing with DEMOCRATS, which is bad for the party.

Hooray! Destroy the party! If it doesn't see Obama's obvious intelligence as "electable," then it shouldn't just be destroyed, but eviscerated, its ashes sprinkled on FDR's grave.

haha what are you going to replace it with?

haha what are you going to replace it with?

http://www.wanprc.org/prrs/images/Proboscis%20Monkey.JPG

sorry dude, i'm too stupid to understand what that means

he wants to replace the democrats with some weird monkeys

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., expressed support of a proposal floated by Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen to hold a superdelegate primary in an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper.

The idea calls for a two-day superdelegate primary in June to reach a fast decision towards a party nominee, in anticipation of the race still being deadlocked between Clinton and Obama after the last contests wrap up.

Obama said, "I thought that actually Gov. Bredesen of Tennessee had an interesting proposal...That would probably be the best way to insure that at lest there's a couple of months before the convention."

Superdelegate Primary: good idea? y/n?

y

Superdelegate SLUMBER PARTY!!!!

At least that would put shit out in the open and keep it from being some kind of closed-door decision.

sounds like a convention

Senator Hagel: US may need another party (article doesn't mention Dem. party at all: does he know they exist?)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080320/ap_on_re_us/hagel_book

lol Hege1s0n

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbe1aswKhhY

LOL pauly shore on a geraline ferraro tip WTF ok

Come on Eeyores, keep your eyes on the ball, don't lose heart!

http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/v/Vaughn_Vince/sq-with-dodgeball-fox.jpg

http://www.newsoxy.com/img/news/obama_poll.jpg
serious obama is serious

waitaminute, Obama is BLACK?

No no, that's Robert Downey Jr. in blackface. Don't worry.

That's just a still from Miami Vice.

Obama needs to get his shirts sized properly.

“I do not understand what Sen. Obama is afraid of, but it is going to hurt our party and our chances in November and so I would call on him, once again, to join me in giving the people of Florida and Michigan the chance to be counted as we move forward in this nominating process,” the former first lady said at the outset of an Indiana press conference.

Clinton went to Michigan this week to make her case. However, it appears that efforts in both states to hold a re-vote are coming up short. The Clinton campaign is saying that Obama’s refusal to strongly support such primaries is part of the problem.

“I do not see how two of our largest and most significant states can be disenfranchised and left out of the process of picking our nominee without raising serious questions about the legitimacy of that nominee,” Clinton said.

They opted to disenfranchise themsleves

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March 20th,
2008
2:01 pm

One does not have to be a Republican to agree with this author’s analysis. As unfortunate as it is on a certain level, Obama’s candidacy is now fatally flawed.

Furthermore, my earlier hypothesis regarding the completely uncritical drum-beat in favor of Obama by the MSM and Republican talking-heads appears to have been correct.

I.e., the purpose of the Obama push was to “kill off” Hillary early; failing that, if she had been nominated despite the Obama challenge, she would have been seriously weakened, and therefore an easier opponent for McCain.

There is no question that Obama’s connections were known to those were pushing this agenda; their goal all along was to make Obama the Democratic candidate, after which he would have been defeated by the Reverend-argument.

Fortunately, this information came to light before Obama was confirmed the Democratic candidate. Now, there is still a chance of a Democratic president.

I feel sorry for the Obama supporters; they have been seriously used.

(However, I would be surprised this comment on the NYT pages…they have been a part of the Obama chorus.)

— Posted by XYZ

I feel sorry for the Obama supporters; they have been seriously used.

:(

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gyXVIfZ2F2CTuuxH3_93vuTP-ywwD8VHAH2G0

obamas ncaa brackets :D

Jill Sixpack with a deskjob and headphones is.

otmfm

Huckabee's comments re: Wright = awesome, I hope they get more coverage

lol

The Democratic presidential candidate and avid basketball player selected North Carolina, Kansas, Pittsburgh and UCLA in his Final Four bracket, and is counting on North Carolina to beat UCLA in the championship game.

The state of North Carolina, with 115 delegates at stake, holds its primary May 6.

wow huckabee!

also lol:

"I've got my own T-shirts, man," Obama said in the radio interview. "Our T-shirts are superior, what can I tell you."

Obama 2008: superior t-shirts

man the amount of completely disingenuous shit that comes out of Hillary's mouth is really quite something.

I wonder if daria still supports her.

she does