"Hugging. How ethnic."
― caek, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
or if not the norm, then a whatever acceptable practice
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
this is possibly one of the craziest pairs of paragrpahs everParents, who grew up in a generation more likely to use the handshake, the low-five or the high-five, are often baffled by the close physical contact. “It’s a wordless custom, from what I’ve observed,” wrote Beth J. Harpaz, the mother of two boys, 11 and 16, and a parenting columnist for The Associated Press, in a new book, “13 Is the New 18.”
“And there doesn’t seem to be any other overt way in which they acknowledge knowing each other,” she continued, describing the scene at her older son’s school in Manhattan. “No hi, no smile, no wave, no high-five — just the hug. Witnessing this interaction always makes me feel like I am a tourist in a country where I do not know the customs and cannot speak the language.”
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
20 years ago in my suburban boston jr high hugs were v popular too
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
baffled by hugs
Washington Times reporting that the epidemic began with 50 Cent's "In Da Club" with the infamous "so come gimme a hug" line, calling for a ban on rap music
― dulce est desipere in loco (Euler), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
hugging is a nice tender thing to do - i still hug all my friends
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
you never hug me
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i wonder why newspapers are going bankrupt
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
― Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
next time i see u max i will hug u ;)
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
hug foods
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
hug life
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link
the NY Times is quoting a parenting columnist for authority
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link
smothered in hugs
― i am rubber, t u.r.koglu (k3vin k.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link
is this what new york is really like or something
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
the nicest city on earth!
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
*hug*
― Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link
this has me dreaming of a world where people are just kind and sweet to each other *sniffle*
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link
huggest ban
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link
hug u
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link
huggest hug
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link
hughug hug
You always hug the one you love/ the one you shouldn't hug at all
― Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link
what other fine articles has Sarah Kershaw brought us?
WOW PEOPLE BUY STUFF FROM SKYMALL EVEN THO THE COUNTRY IS BROKEDADS ARE THE NEW MOMSDRUNKOREXIA
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link
now link to the respective ilx threads about the articles
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Drunkorexia is not an official medical term.
THANK YOUS
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link
being a nyt trend writer is pretty much the best job in the world as far as i can tell
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link
it's like writing for the onion
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't drink to offset the calories in my alcohol, I refrain from eating to make myself a cheaper drunk. This is called "creative problem solving" and is rewarded in any other walk of life. Certainly at my job, where they would probably lock any given assistant in a storage closet and wall it up, if they thought it would save money and the work would still get done.
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link
haaa the today show is on the case http://gawker.com/5271997/today-investigates-high-school-hug-madness
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Gah, I meant, I don't starve myself to offset the calories in my alcohol. Oh fuck it, you know what I meant.
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm scared of an Al Queida attack now. remember the summer before 2001, everyone was freaking out about SHARKS. maybe it's
THE SUMMER OF THE HUG.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link
DADS ARE THE NEW MOMS
plz plz plz plz confirm that this is not a childbirth article
― Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
you'll have to click and find out
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
fwiw, i def know a dude who is a drunkorexic---like, "no I didn't eat lunch today, but I am going to have a million beers" and is very upfront about it. it's weird?
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link
ok lol in the sidebar on the DRUNKOREXIA article:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/05/13/theater/Critics600.jpg
Find the one that's different!
― Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link
DRUNKOREXIA HAS MANY FORMS
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 28 May 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
I am starting to think Geoffrey Rush has a "silly facial prosthetic" clause in his contract, similar to Samuel L. Jackson's "fucked-up hair" clause.
― Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link
dont know if its been mentioned enough that this was a front-page story for the new york times
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Va. School's No-Contact Rule Is a Touchy Subject
Fairfax County middle school student Hal Beaulieu hopped up from his lunch table one day a few months ago, sat next to his girlfriend and slipped his arm around her shoulder. That landed him a trip to the school office.
Among his crimes: hugging.
Connecticut School Bans Physical Contact
East Shore M.S. Outlaws "High-Fives," "Hugging" And Horseplay Of Any Kind; Violators May Face ExpulsionMILFORD, Conn. (CBS) ―
A Connecticut middle school principal has laid down the law: You put your hands on someone -- anyone -- in any way, you're going to pay.
G-20 Gossip: No Touching, Please
According to video of the Obamas visit to Buckingham Place today, the First Lady briefly touched Queen Elizabeth on the back during a reception there for G-20 leaders, and that is, apparently, a huge social no-no. We just turned on SkyNews, which was airing a panel on the apparent faux pas. “You don’t touch the queen!” one red-face analyst insisted. “You don’t touch her!”
― Derelict, Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link
― caek, Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:40 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
"what is this, the italian parliament?"
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
god help us all that this merits trend pieces
― Beatrix Kiddo, Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link
and i thought UK newspapers had the market cornered on dumbass moral panics
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
http://gentlepony.com/pics/nuclear-arms3_green.gif
― would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link
(anything you can't accomplish with nuclear arms is obv kinda suspect)
http://www.photobasement.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/huglife.jpg
― would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^^^^^ "know" the person with that, BTW
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link
do you hug her?
― would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
nnnooooooooooo
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
The hipster bandanna and the green waist/fanny-pack take it from mostly lol to kinda sad.
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link
uh, that's not that old ... half of my friends are in that age range ...
― what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link
"which reads like you're primarily hating on Heffernan for neutrally passing along the friend's tale (which you can do too, obviously)"
It's the whole thing really. It's her friend, but also the way she's casually relating the whole thing. It just rubbed me the wrong way.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Blog post on Virginia Heffernan's wedding:http://www.xtcian.com/arch/001618.php
― jaymc, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I never said it was. But it probably skews slightly old for Facebook.
― jaymc, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link
That blog post makes me hate her even more.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link
bowtie guy is prob coolest guy on the planethttp://www.xtcian.com/RonJodiIan2VAWed(bl).jpg
― velko, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link
slightly old for facebook doesn't seem to really matter anymore
― iatee, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link
That's her husband, isn't it?
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link
xp alex (a few posts back) pretty much, yeah ... the whole thing reads like a hastily compiled list of reasons a few of the writer's friends quit facebook without any real point about generational differences, technological change, or interesting information
bowtie guy looks kinda familiar
― what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I think bowtie guy is the author of the blog post.
― jaymc, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link
actually - he looks like this douchey guy at my college who wore a suit every day to be "rebellious."
haha yeah okay see maybe this is my deeper issue: some woman gets an email from Heffernan asking why she quit Facebook -- she says oh, I joined cause my hip friend said it was awesome, but then the main application I liked got axed, someone called me old, my stepson got all Facebooked out, and eventually I was like screw it, I'll just play backgammon. this seems relatively normal and non-annoying to me, I guess; it seems like such a touchy bar for calling people out as annoying. I'm being way more annoying right now than that, just not in the Times.
since I'm being annoying I will add value with this actual screencap of "Alex"'s Facebook page and the REAL reason she quit:
http://emailsfromcrazypeople.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Q6umM-500x392.jpg
― nabisco, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I just assumed it was David Samuels. Photo captioning sucks on that thing.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link
xp nabisco: the way you phrased it is far less annoying than the phrasing in the article ...
― what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link
nabisco, this also might not be as big a deal if it weren't for the fact that the nyt has been fairly routinely making up fads lately and this fits into that pattern
― iatee, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link
xp - Alex - I doubt that's the douchey suit guy, he just looks like him.
― what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Scrabulous didn't even disappear, it just became Lexulous instead (with the same app and stats even kept, as far as I can make out).
― Spy in the Cab Sav (Trayce), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, multipost.
You are right. David Samuels appears to have an eating disorder like his wife.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link
there were significant changes made when scrabulous became lexulous, at least for users in the USA.
― ian, Monday, 31 August 2009 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Also the thing I think silly about this article is more things like
"Another friend, who didn’t want his name used, found that Facebook undermined his whole notion of online friendship. “It’s easy to think of your circle of ‘Friends’ as a coherent circle, clear and moated, when in fact the splay of overlap/network makes drip/action painting a better (visual) analogy.”"
OMG! Online friendships might not be quite like real ones! OMG I spend too much time online and it's full of ads and vapid!
Hello, 2001 called?
― Spy in the Cab Sav (Trayce), Monday, 31 August 2009 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link
is the Bogus Trend Story thing really more prevalent at the Times, or does the Times just catch more public shit for them? (that's a serious non-rhetorical question.) like today the WSJ is getting it over an article about people cutting their own hair.
― nabisco, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link
(I guess the Times's do tend to be more embarrassing, in our world, since they often have to do with trends of hipness or style)
― nabisco, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link
wall street journal trend pieces tend to be WAY worse in my experience--i remember one from last winter about people who wear sneakers at the office--but i think they, uh, suffer from the subtle bigotry of low expectations
― fleetwood (max), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Probably because the Times is the most prominent "serious" paper in the country they get more shit about bogus trend stories ... the SF Chronicle definitely has its fair share ...
― what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I do think it's getting more prevalent - and ilx isn't the only one noticing (http://www.slate.com/id/2225301/)
Whether the WSJ / other crappy newspapers do it more often than the Times doesn't particularly matter, and that certainly doesn't excuse the Times for doing it.
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link
you get them in the UK, but they don't have this deadly serious capital-J journalism tone.
― caek, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link
i think times just gets the most shit on ilx becuase its the only paper most of us read
― fleetwood (max), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link
and yeah the chron does it like crazy, but it also doesn't have a great reputation anymore. the nyt is still taken seriously, but if they don't put a lid on this stuff, it's gonna hurt their rep in the long term. this is the 2nd most read article on nyt.com.
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link
this is the 2nd most read article on nyt.com.
You realize this is why they keep publishing them, right?
― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link
right, well if the nyt wants to aim for page hits above uh, fact-based articles, they can do a lot better than this
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link
they're usually spottable insofar as their tone's just weaselly and anecdotal and question-filled, like "could these uncertain indicators and observations maybe suggest that possibly X? Bob Abernathy thinks so, though he admits that statistics are vague; here is an interesting story about some guy that does X and says all his friends do too"
― nabisco, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link
(the Heffernan absolutely does that, but I've always felt like a magazine column is the main spot that's acceptable)
― nabisco, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:16 (fifteen years ago) link
in the print copy, it's pretty obv that there's a difference between the magazine and the newspaper, but the website doesn't particularly highlight that difference. I mean, it says 'magazine' on top, but I imagine 50% of the people who read this don't even know what the nyt magazine refers to.
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link
but I imagine 50% of the people who read this don't even know what the nyt magazine refers to.
You don't?
― what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.xtcian.com/RonJodiIan2VAWed(bl).jpg
The walls between realities must be getting thin, bowtie guy is clearly alt-world Greg Kinnear.
― brookedel, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 08:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Ladies and gentlemen
In her debut column, Virginia Heffernan writes about a series that explores both coal-mining narratives and reality TV.
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/03/mining-reality/
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 April 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Welcome Back Virginia! A wonderful writer that truly understands the digital culture as well as the pop one, i followed 'Screens' & 'The Medium' , and was pleased to see your pic and news of this 'debut' column. Your voice has been missed in it's own space.
― the pinefox, Monday, 4 April 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Perhaps the paywall went up so these people, including commenters, could be more readily isolated and contained.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 April 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link
this seems vaguely relevant here
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/lifestyle/the-other-side/william-duncan-state-school-bans-children-from-rolling-up-sleeves-on-jumpers/story-e6frfhk6-1226107452535
― Who? Well, I've never heard of Mogwai. (electricsound), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link
amazing picture with that story
― om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link