U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Nino Edition

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good news is he'll be dead soon!

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

lol

What the GOP did in blocking Obama's last SCOTUS appointment was outrageous, but those assuming Merrick Garland would have voted to invalidate Trump's travel ban are making assumptions inconsistent with his judicial record https://t.co/EbcQy7q9eI pic.twitter.com/Ba42kfl4s8

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 26, 2018

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

In that case, Dems and liberals should all have endorsed John Roberts -- he occasionally votes with the lib justices!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

Xxp Ready for Justce Stephen Miller?

DJI, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

I really don't give a shit what Glenn Greenwald thinks about counterfactual situations tbh

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

In an alternate universe something bad might happen, it is true.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

GG isn't the poster boy for contrarian thinking like he thinks he is

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link

Glenn Greenwald's constant drone of well-actuallying the libs is getting extremely tedious

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link

There are times when it's worth pointing out a hypocrisy or inconsistency, but the way he does it is just enervating and pointless

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

"getting"?

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link

Somehow an actual lawyer pic.twitter.com/ZXIGN8HJTp

— Quinoa🖕Appropriator (@MattAlwaysWrong) June 26, 2018

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link

obama almost definitely not have gotten away with it, but i bet if you gave him a crystal ball he would've tried to pack the court.

too bad crystal balls are make-believe, they could've helped a lot!

paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

it's a lot more expedient to criticize him for mishandling the Garland situation. He unquestionably should've recess-appointed him and dared the GOP to try to remove him from the court.

paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

Who could ever have foreseen the GOP would return to power at some point and ruthlessly exercise it

Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

you're crazy if you think that he could've gotten a 60-vote majority on a tenth justice, let alone an eleventh

paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

the only precedent of attempted court-packing in american history happened when the most popular president of all time, the one who was elected to four terms, couldn't make it work with a massive majority in a time of even greater crisis than 2009

paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

didn't he have a filibuster-proof majority for a hot minute, or do I have that wrong

Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link

he would have if one of the senators in that majority wasn't Joe Lieberman

paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link

i have a hard time thinking that he would've been able to convince the Feinsteins, Schumers, and Feingolds of the senate to vote for court-packing

paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link

He had a veto-proof majority from mid '09 till January 2010.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

back in those doe-eyed early days of the obama administration when we all thought we would enter a golden era of bipartisan cooperation

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

a shame Obama couldn't wave that magic wand!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link

I can sort of forgive the Chuck Schumers of the world for being Chuck Schumers in 2009, I just can't forgive them for being them in 2018.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link

back in those doe-eyed early days of the obama administration when we all thought we would enter a golden era of bipartisan cooperation

lol

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link

Aside from bipartisan BS, court packing is several layers away from obama stylings even with giant crystal balls.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:36 (five years ago) link

Janus decision tomorrow 😖

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:43 (five years ago) link

Yeah we know how thats gonna go

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:48 (five years ago) link

really

Dan S, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

Expectation is it will hurt my employer big time. Inside take TK tmw after we all report to the mothership.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 03:00 (five years ago) link

WASHINGTON (AP) — Supreme Court rules states can't force government workers to pay union fees, a setback for organized labor

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 27, 2018

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link

So glad money is speech.

devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:10 (five years ago) link

So what happens now? Like what changes for government unions -- do they ask everyone to fill out a form first before they can collect dues and give people the chance to opt out or what?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link

and the non-union members enjoy the benefits they didn't pay for

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link

amazingly enough, only around 1/3 of government employees are unionized

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link

xp yeah I get the free-ride aspect, but what is the practical mechanism by which this actually reduces govt unionization? What happens at the ground level?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link

lowers union revenues, likely contributes to the overall lowering of union acceptance/viability in the workplace

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

these guys doing a bang up job of late . fuck

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link

CONSERVATIVES: If you want something, work hard and pay for it.
ALSO CONSERVATIVES: You should be able to benefit from union negotiations without paying dues.

Eliza D., Wednesday, 27 June 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

i fucking hate this week

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link

xpost Well, let's be totally blunt about it: conservatives' mythological notions of 'hard work' are often parasitic in nature. Exploit, oppress, reap the benefits and babble incoherently about your bootstraps and self-determination.

A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link

at least no justices announced their retirement.. yet

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

Every single successful (rich) person I've ever met has nearly always downplayed the role of luck in their lives. And yes, it's possible through hard work to put yourself in a position to better take advantage of luck or even become "luckier" but random chance is undeniable in our lives. If bootstrapping means "treating people nicely" and "not being an asshole" then I can get on board but sooooo many hard working people also revel in assholery to get ahead in life. In fact, I wish we all worked a lot harder at avoiding assholery.

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link

Hey, you know where you can stick your whole 'avoiding assholery' thing, pal.

Sorry, sorry.

A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link

lowers union revenues, likely contributes to the overall lowering of union acceptance/viability in the workplace

― Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, June 27, 2018 9:55 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No I get that, I mean more specifically. Like until now they could just take the fees out of your paycheck. What happens now, they have to ask you if it's ok to take the fees out of your paycheck? Check a box yes or no?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link

The court based its ruling on the First Amendment, saying that requiring payments to unions that negotiate with the government forces workers to endorse political messages that may be at odds with their beliefs.

And yet I’m required to pay taxes that go toward things that are at odds with my beliefs. I may have a case here

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link

Gorsuch has your back!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link

I think one or two people may have tried that, let's dig up the corpse of Thoreau and ask him how that went

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link

Most rich people get rich by i) being born rich ii) being born a white man who looks like you should give them your money iii)being born without morals but an ability to grift. It's luck most of the way up.

Yerac, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link


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