Full Frontal with Samantha Bee is amazing

Yeah would think it was a precedent one didn't want to set if one is a satire show.
JUst wondering if that devalues her doing the show.
But then I'm used to the word cunt in English usage and heard it was harder in U.S. usage. But still it is true of the whole family so can a defamation charge be brought against it? Thought that was one of the hinge points.

Ivanka is complete and utter trash of course but I'm not happy that SB is just tossing a gift to the perpetually outraged right like this

But who the fuck cares about them? They're perpetually outraged! You think they're going to just shut up now that they smell blood and want a body of their own?

Just wondering if that devalues her doing the show.

Yes. Because who knows what they are nixing behind the scenes. If you back down for a generic insult under pressure from the White House, what else will you back off?

i agree, apologizing does nothing, which is why it's an idiotic move on TBS' part (I'm assuming it wasn't Bee's idea). nothing short of cancellation will appease the chuds.

Michelle Wolff had the right idea, don't back down, double down.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, May 31, 2018 3:33 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think Samantha Bee just might? I mean it's a pretty traditional comedy trope to walk back the blunt phrasing and then twist the knife back in...

I'm not reading her apology so maybe there's less room for that but idk I don't think of SB as being of weaker moral character than MW or any other comic

Her apology is totally weak.

I would like to sincerely apologize to Ivanka Trump and to my viewers for using an expletive on my show to describe her last night. It was inappropriate and inexcusable. I crossed a line, and I deeply regret it.

— Samantha Bee (@iamsambee) May 31, 2018

What a wuss.

I like Samantha Bee a lot, but she is flat wrong to call Ivanka a cunt.

Cunts are powerful, beautiful, nurturing and honest.

— Sally Field (@sally_field) May 31, 2018

Yeah, way to go Sally Field, you have more balls than Bee.

At least the apology was for the use of an expletive and not the content. All these people embracing being a deplorable are all of a sudden super hyped on "civility."

Civility is the new Personal Responsibility.

Look what happened to annoying Kathy Griffin, who took a hundred hits, backed down, ended up in a worse position, and then immediately regretted it, because the president and his entire family are huge pieces of shits.

Civility Under Non-Negotiable Threat.

Everyone is living in a fucking migraine.

does a double n make it more powerful?

i didn't care for how everyone started acting all pearl-clutchy about "cunt" a few years ago

i can think of few ppl on earth who deserve the designation more than SHS

It's because oeople in the US stopped watching Guy Ritchie movies.

lol

I instinctively recoil from the insult tbh

That's probably why it was the right word for her to use.

oh wait Ivanka, not SHS.

well, anyway.

too early to know how this plays out, but most of the ways i see this going are not going to be good for tbs. i don't see how their attempt at "moderation" and "civility" doesn't wind up with their looking like government lapdogs.

something something something samantha bee fake outrage something pic.twitter.com/5bc5PPBGOK

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) May 31, 2018

i would guess after a hard afternoon's thought samantha bee will come to regret it, and that in the end she will end up doing a segment on it that will end with her proudly calling ivanka every other possible name that you can say on TBS, and it will be funny and feel good to watch but in the end hardly anyone will see it

regret apologizing, i mean

Those blowhard right-wingers who say they’re having nothing to do with TBS never watched it to begin with.

Michelle Wolf is awesome. Her new show isn’t great but she’s easy to admire

Also sally field is a total class act

we really like her!

The right uses asymmetrical, dirty warfare while liberals line up in single line formation waiting for a battle of manners no one cares about.

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) May 31, 2018

But norms! And mores! And traditions! And ... yeah, lining up like red coats.

perhaps predictably, the new episode isn't on youtube.

I watched it last night, but on one of the streaming sites. She always swears a lot on her show. It really is the responsibility of TBS who let it go to air. And seriously fuck any person who is "outraged".

xpost, it used to be on youtube because that's where I saw it.

ugh she apologized?? come on!

Everyone should chill on chastising her for apologizing. She has a family

She has to pay bills

Estimated net worth of $7 million. She'll be fine.

I probably have said this before but the key reason why hypocrisy arguments, while completely valid, do not work is because they don't take offense to calling someone a bad word (or racist comments, or anything else), they take offense to calling someone a bad word whom they don't think deserves it.

Oh fuck Simon. Okay reset

I cried when she says at the end thank you, I love you.

Wrong thread sorry

way to go Sally Field, you have more balls than Bee

sally field does not have a career to jeopardize anymore. it's one of the perks of getting old that it's easier to say whatever the fuck you feel like saying. as an oldster, I appreciate having this freedom. it's liberating.

So why does Bee do what she does? Just for the cash? And how mean is she allowed to be, and to whom? John Oliver (and HBO) stood up to a defamation suit for insulting an angry billionaire coal baron. Bee backed down after calling the in the public employee grifter daughter of a dickhead a bad word.

TBS barely knows what to do with Full Frontal in the first place. Last Week Tonight is one of HBO's anchor series at this point.

I would guess that Bee does what she does for a complex set of reasons, among which is earning a living, but only as one motive in a fairly long list. What Sally Field does these days is whatever she pleases. She has a lot less on the line than Bee, which makes it much easier for her. It's like playing with the House's money.

I don’t think she should have apologized but the fascist president trying to get a tv show off the air for having criticized his administration seems like the way worse part of this whole thing, regardless of the host’s net worth imo.

The only thing worse than a fascist president trying to get a show off the air, or stop the NFL from kneeling, or virtually anything else he wants to do, is allowing him to do it. Far more expensive and watched shows like Brooklyn Whatever and The Expanse were canceled but then picked up by others. If TBS does not have her back, like HBO has Oliver's, then she is doomed anyway and should be working on her resume.

Agreed they shouldn’t cave.

I don’t think she should have apologized but the fascist president trying to get a tv show off the air for having criticized his administration seems like the way worse part of this whole thing, regardless of the host’s net worth imo.

Well, yeah.