2008 Primaries Thread

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The California results are depressing me.

Yup. Romney dead. Not sure about a McCain/Huckabee ticket but I wouldn't rule it out.

I can’t believe no one is yet spinning a potential 20 point, or a 70 delegate loss in California. This would be a nightmare situation for Senator Obama, unless he believes he can win big in Pennsylvania (he won’t).

my vote in the Texas primary MIGHT ACTUALLY MATTER for the first time

Considering the early results in MO, it might be a little early to say that Cali's numbers will stay consistent.

re: Romney, yup, he's sounding like Edwards did when he said he'd stick around till the convention. riiiiight.

damn cali...

Senator Boxer just confirmed she will be voting for Senator Clinton (she is a super delegate).

I note Hewitt's been reduced to saying that McCain can only be stopped if Romney and Huckabee join forces. Uh-huh.

To give you guys an idea why the GOP hates McCain...

Imagine if the Democrats' Winning Knight In Armor in '08 was Lieberman...

Yeah, I'd upchuck too.

the story on the Republican side is that McCain lost as many States as he won. yes, he's the nominee, but he doesn't have the halo hoped for, and he's got a not-inconsiderable backside to cover in the South. Huckabee's just made quite a case for himself, but in the end I think he scares the Northeast too much. Pawlenty's Catholic-cum-Baptist beats Sanford's Episcopalian, but he's not a Southerner, and couldn't lock in his caucus for McCain.

If I did my math right, the exit polls show Obama getting ~44.5% of the California vote.

were i still doing so, there's no shortage of op-ed toons i could collect expressing the BSRW hatred of McCain.

Romney out soon. (MSNBC)

of course, this ain't one of them, buuuuuuuut:

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i thought MO had been called for hillz?

This GE is going to be terrible, if it goes the way I fear it will.

nine

months

feel free

explore

you have an eternity

x-post -- Daniel, am I going to have to repeat my NINE MONTHS thing at you or what?

Yes, you are. Ned, we're in the same age range(-ish). Surely you have some sinking feelings based on how virtually every Presidential election in recent history has gone (Bill Clinton -- a singular political figure -- excepted).

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but here's some, just for fun

Please explain how Bill Clinton is a singular political figure and Barack Obama is not.

Obama might be. He isn't yet. I have great hopes for him.

AND HE WINS MISSOURI!

w00t

Daniel, assuming the worst is always healthy in situations like this -- I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than unpleasantly. I stick to my core belief, though, that the election is going to be decided by factors outside of the matchup of the candidates, and outside of their or anyone else's control. Right now I'm reasonably sanguine on that point -- right now.

red states in which the Dem vote exceeded the GOP vote - Colorado, Missouri, North Dakota, Tennessee

Yeah, cnn has obama leading by 5K in MO with ~2% left

I wish there was some way of knowing how much of the current CA count was made up of early votes.

AND OBAMA WINS ALASKA!

Politico has finally retracted their call on MO

Yeah, Clinton's doing so well in CA for the same reason she did so well in FL. A significant portion of the ballots they're counting are 2-3 week old early votes.

yeah, i was just about to post that. CNN has Obama winning, no GOP results for alaska yet.

xp: didn't like 5M absentee primary votes in california get sent in right after the NH primary?

wot a fuct beginning to a fuct odd system we have

guys karl rove is awesome on fox news

made a good point (dunno if it's been brought up here) about barack winning states that dems have a 0% chance of winning in the gen election

why? what;s the ministry of information have for us tonight?

xp

OH YEAH! TWO Cali counties for O

......

Ned, is your Dad still a McCain fan?

total delegates so far as estimated by cnn:

clinton: 371
obama: 306

total delegates so far as estimated by fox:

clinton: 624
obama: 518

Ned, is your Dad still a McCain fan?

I'm trying to remember when I said he was! I've no doubt he admires McCain's service as a fellow Naval Academy grad and all but I don't ever recall him being a dedicated fan, honestly. He voted Nader in 2000 and is strongly considering Obama this time around. Voted Kerry in 2004 IIRC.

rove has an encyclopedic knowledge of voting trends and history and demo info etc. about nearly every county in every state and it was really interesting to hear what he had to say, both bcuz he's really fucking smart and bcuz it's interesting to hear what a republican that doesn't give a fuck about public perception (unlike hannity or wallace or whoever) thinks (this applies for ari fleischer on cnn as well).

Chris Matthews, speaking of Obama, brings up Robert Kennedy's assassination. Nice.

Chuck Todd projects that when CA is all accounted for, fewer than 10 delegates will separate them, not counting the supers

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obama wins states that Dems don't because he appeals to people who ordinarily wouldn't consider Dems

Rove's point still might not mean anything if only Ohio goes blue along with the '04 blue states this year. Just sayin' Shrug.

made a good point (dunno if it's been brought up here) about barack winning states that dems have a 0% chance of winning in the gen election.

You can say the same about McCain. Rove doesn't, tho, because he's a GOP strategist.

mccain can't win florida or california or missouri?