"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

LOL

i'm sure the sub stuff is done 100% to their best of their ability within time and budget. i took a different screengrab (for save-an-fxteam purposes) where it looks a lot more photoreal.

photoreal as in a photo of a fisherprice depth charge.

if you gotta cherrypick a frame where it doesn't look like shit then guess what it looked like shit

i'm not mad at them for not always having the best fx, it is TV after all, the worst part about that was that the shot wasn't really necessary, i don't think we needed an exterior like that in the scene

ilx still fixed on the bigger mysteries of LOST: pony CGI and modern wallpaper.

*half-hearted zing*

if you gotta cherrypick a frame where it doesn't look like shit then guess what it looked like shit

whatever, the routine dismissal of effects shots from ppl who know as much about it as they do the fine art of acting or writing just gets tiresomely unconstructive. i didn't have a problem with the sub stuff, the first shot of it moving from the island and into the water was actually great (the music helped).

I've been captaining submarines for 25 years and I think it looked ridiculous.

the Galaga has always looked v toy-like and cute tho

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Everyone%20Else/images-2/nuclear-submarine-2.jpg

UGH SO FAKE etc.

You don't have to be a special effects expert to know when something looks weird and fake.

you don't have to be an expert on anything to come off like a self-satisfied bore when dismissing visual effects, clearly (this isn't directed at anyone in particular, just sayin - people act incredulous that something which is technically challenging was so unconvincing to them as if it ruined the story or forced them to suspend disbelief even more than the time Juliet failed to smell bacon burning)

it looked pony to anybody with eyes. layman, child, genius, ILM animator. it looked shit. didn't ruin anything. just looked pony. no more tears.

Now: going back to season1 or 2ish, when Locke saw Smokie for the first time and described it as a bright light... was he seeing the smokie/MiB we know doing its flashy thing, or maybe a Jacoby version? I get the feeling we weren't shown something there for a reason.

Poor JL. Played for a sucker one last, stinging time. Lol.

i don't think of it as looking shit. i think of it as looking reasonable within context. i'm glad they wanted to use and show the sub in action in this way. it doesn't look any shitter than the smokemonster. it's a question of attitude to these things i guess.

no more tears

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some pretty weak fx there too:

the good thing is i watch it on badly-compressed AVIs so i can never tell if the effects are crummy or it's just artifacting. i win.

goin back to something else, is Ben's compulsive lying so habitual that when Sun asks him what happened to the rest of the statue, he wasn't actually telling the truth (he'd already revealed to Sun how he felt about Locke's revival, eerie new powers etc.)? i'd like to think nothing he's said since returning to the island has been a lie ("I'm a Pisces" just being another dumb joke a la "my mother taught me")...and he surely has nothing to lose by telling Sun the truth re the statue. so her scepticism was understandable and just highlighted his ability to convince anyone of anything has reached a low?

similar thing with Richard telling Sun he watched all the Dharma people (inc. Jin) die. how will this square with The Incident? maybe it was just a figure of speech ("i mean, they all died...i didn't necessarily see it")

Now: going back to season1 or 2ish, when Locke saw Smokie for the first time and described it as a bright light... was he seeing the smokie/MiB we know doing its flashy thing, or maybe a Jacoby version? I get the feeling we weren't shown something there for a reason.

I think the reason is they were still teasing us at that point, we didn't actually see the monster as a cloud of black smoke until season 2, right? I'm not sure 'Jacob' had even entered the writers' heads at that stage.

Well, Smokey was seen as smoke in the S1 finale when it tried to drag Locke into the hole. I can understand what you're saying about them not having finalised their vision of what the monster looked like, but would they really let such a big contradiction slip through the net?
I can't really remember the conversation clearly now, but iirc, it's Locke talking to Eko. Locke describes a bright light, and Eko says plainly "that's not what I saw".

Got it: It was in the Eko-Deathisode, The Cost of Living. Season 3!

LOCKE: So, what exactly did you see back there? I saw it once, you know.

EKO: And what did you see?

LOCKE: I saw a very bright light. It was beautiful.

EKO: That is not what I saw.

maybe it wasn't really him ;)

the bright light is what locke saw coming out of the hatch, no?

But Locke has seen it as a cloud of smoke as well though, Eko also saw it as Yemi, Shannon as Walt etc. Changing its appearance is part of what it does.

I liked that Ben's pleading with Jacob mirrored John's ranting at the Hatch; "I did everything you asked!" etc.

Reminds me of something else that puzzled/annoyed me for ages but has probably since been explained and I haven't noticed. When Michael was tapping the numbers into the computer in the hatch, Walt starting MSN-messaging him. Even thought it wasn't meant to be connected up to anything other than whatever it was connected to (incident-preventing device, presumably) - though I can't remember how they established this. How on earth was Walt chatting to Mike that time? Esp if Walt was under constant Other surveillance and testing and that. Was it ever meant to be Walt or an Other playing a trick?

Richard telling Sun he watched all the Dharma people (inc. Jin) die. how will this square with The Incident?

xpost that wasn't Walt it was the Others communicating from er the Arrow I think? although tbh I can't remember where I got that idea from, probably lostpedia or something, so pinch of salt

Lostpedia: "It appears that Michael activated chat mode by simply banging on the keys until the computer displayed a chat interface"

Oh right then.
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Swan_computer

i hope they do explain Walt's powers more and how he benefitted the Others

i made a morph of sawyer and a horse

http://www.morphthing.com/showimage/2/a44daee77363b87cb2e3201f42dbef35/0/12913550/Horse1-jpg--lost-sawyer-288-11781990391-jpg.jpeg

lolx1000

"you gonna sit there starin doc? or you gonna jump on my back and come save kate??"

nice one max

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5729/gickrcom15e9cbaad5ba075.gif

my friend made this incredible .gif:
http://i42.tinypic.com/rs9ddy.gif

nice!

Locke describes a bright light, and Eko says plainly "that's not what I saw".

smokey ran his bright light scanner-y thing over juliet and kate that one time. when they were handcuffed together? so maybe that's just a different mode or something.

also he told me that juliet was the hotter of the two.

tell your friend he doesn't look like stephen baldwin

don't think that matters

i think it does

cutty you are this thread's "security system"

always have been

cuttysmokeyhorse.jpg

no cutty, I will not

http://www.sporcle.com/games/lostepisodes.php

gave up after 39

I only got 28. For some reason, I could remember random season 3 episodes but hardly any recent ones.

crapped out at 33, fun game

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/smoke_monster_from_lost_given_own

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haha yeah i was like "what kate did" and "the moth"

got "he's our you" and quit realizing I wouldn't even break 10