Road Warrior was #16. I suspect Fury Road would make the top 5. My guess would be it would have an okay shot at #1. And it might deserve it!
― omar little, Sunday, 11 March 2018 12:35 (six years ago) link
otm to both posts
FC is my favourite ever i think
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 March 2018 14:40 (six years ago) link
also gotta say if you enjoy anything about schwarzenegger or OTT ridiculousness in an action movie, you will love commando. get a group of friends together and go to town. i think as a kid the box convinced me it was gonna be heavy and boring, and no aliens or sci-fi stuff to hook me in, but it's basically a quippy, silly, video game, complete with a string of mini-bosses on the way up to the big showdown. fair warning it also has possibly the highest body count of any movie in the whole list, and mostly all in the last like 20 minutes of the movie. he kills so many people!
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 11 March 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link
yeah he does!
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 March 2018 14:59 (six years ago) link
also fair warning, the dead people are almost all Henchmen Of A Central American Banana Republic Strongman, which probably qualifies on the racism trope-o-meter.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 11 March 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link
casting irish lads would have looked funny tbh
i mean ok but cmon but ok
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 March 2018 15:17 (six years ago) link
Full list, for anyone who can't load the thread:
75 APOCALYPTO74 INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM73 GOLDFINGER72 VANISHING POINT71 DIRTY HARRY69 (TIE) THE HURT LOCKER69 (TIE) DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE67 (TIE) CON AIR67 (TIE) BRANDED TO KILL66 ASSAULT ON PRECINCT 1365 SIN CITY64 INFERNAL AFFAIRS62 (TIE) DEMOLITION MAN62 (TIE) TAKEN61 MAD MAX60 JAWS59 THE FUGITIVE58 CASINO ROYALE57 COLLATERAL56 THE INCREDIBLES55 ENTER THE DRAGON53 (TIE) MIAMI VICE53 (TIE) KUNG FU HUSTLE52 GET CARTER51 AKIRA50 LA FEMME NIKITA49 DISTRICT 948 TOTAL RECALL47 THE WILD BUNCH46 THE GREAT ESCAPE45 COMMANDO44 THE KILLER43 THE FIFTH ELEMENT42 SPEED41 BULLITT40 YOJIMBO39 LE SAMOURAI38 DAWN OF THE DEAD37 TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A.36 THE MATRIX35 INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE34 CRANK33 THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK32 THE BOURNE IDENTITY31 THE WARRIORS30 THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM29 THE BOURNE SUPREMACY28 ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST27 BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA26 THE DARK KNIGHT25 PREDATOR24 POINT BREAK23 BATTLE ROYALE22 THE THING21 KILL BILL VOL. 120 POINT BLANK19 THE TERMINATOR17 NORTH BY NORTHWEST17 STARSHIP TROOPERS16 THE ROAD WARRIOR15 THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY14 THE FRENCH CONNECTION13 THE SEVEN SAMURAI12 ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK11 HARD BOILED10 BLADE RUNNER9 LÉON: THE PROFESSIONAL8 HEAT7 RONIN6 CHILDREN OF MEN5 ROBOCOP4 TERMAINTOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY3 RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK2 ALIENS1 DIE HARD
I'm surprised at the poor showing of martial arts movies. They don't seem to have been ruled out, since Enter the Dragon is on the list.
― jmm, Sunday, 11 March 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link
there were definitely some in the nominees (see: TOP 100 ACTION FILMS OF ALL TIME NOMINATIONS AND DISCUSSION THREAD ) but they're swamped by stuff closer to the American Blockbuster Action Movie template...
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 11 March 2018 15:31 (six years ago) link
big trouble in little china tbf
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 March 2018 15:33 (six years ago) link
Okay, I guess I need to rep harder for Cobra as it ticks a lot of Dr. C's Commando boxes. It's the most ridiculous movie ever. The baddies are satanists who ritually clank fire axes together in an abandoned warehouse. Marion Cobretti is the most overly try-hard badass in history.
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Sunday, 11 March 2018 15:33 (six years ago) link
Couldn't find an uninterrupted clip of this scene, so you're missing the bit between these two clips when Cobra crams his newspaper inside a bbq grill and tosses his housekeys like a hardman in an attempt to impress all zero people who are watching him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32sLgUoj91ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SxN_U2H0Xc
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Sunday, 11 March 2018 15:38 (six years ago) link
All to the tune of Miami Sound Machine. More like Camp-brah, amirite.
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Sunday, 11 March 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link
i love the OTT final monologue of the Night Slasher, what is he even talking about?
You want to go to hell? Huh, pig? You want to go to hell with me? It doesn't matter, does it? We are the hunters. We kill the weak so the strong survive. You can't stop the New World. Your filthy society will never get rid of people like us. It's breeding them! WE ARE THE FUTURE!
― omar little, Sunday, 11 March 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link
a layup for Cobra:
Marion Cobretti : No![aims his gun] Marion Cobretti : You're history.
separately, i wanted to gauge ILX interest in a crime/thriller/mystery/detective/film noir poll. i don't think it's been done, it would cover all eras, etc...
there are a lot of films that i think slipped through this poll and some others that would be interesting to discuss in a rollout.
― omar little, Sunday, 11 March 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link
that could be cool! i was looking up lists of movies under that basic umbrella recently cause my friend wanted to do a "noir" marathon but they were feeling pretty broad-minded, at one point the shortlist included like, The Getaway and Sugarland Express alongside Midnight Run and Pierrot le Fou. unfortunately we got started late and only got through Chinatown and uh, Brick. anyway though i like it... pretty huge range of things to cover... could be cool, could be unwieldy, probably would be fun. i'd assume things like TLaDiLA and Le Samourai would qualify despite their 'action' placement...
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 11 March 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wk-jT9rn-8
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 March 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link
xp re Cobra, i love that Miami Sound Machine song.
― piscesx, Sunday, 11 March 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link
totally down for a crime poll.
It's funny though how i think culturally Taken is the Neeson action film everyone talks about (understandably perhaps) while in the meantime every single non-Taken franchise action film he's made since is better.
True. I particularly liked Run All Night, A Walk Among The Tombstones, and The Grey. Haven't seen The Commuter yet.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 11 March 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link
This life's HARD man, but it's HARDER if you're stupid! aka CRIME/MYSTERY/THRILLER/NOIR movie POLL nominations thread
― omar little, Sunday, 11 March 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
the William Friedkin poll
to live and die in la well discussed in this thread
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 March 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link
I'd searched for Warrior with no results, then expanded the entire thread and ctrl+f'd every mention of "mad max" without Road Warrior showing up, so blame Americans for this I guess
yeah Fast Five is the real golden point of the Furiouses
AF: I thought I'd seen Jaws, because I knew every reference well enough to joke about it for decades, but watched a remaster in the cinema five years ago and realised that I'd just read some of the novel and all of the MAD magazine version when I was a kid. It's really good, definitely worth seeing with an audience
Crank is probably diminished bc its mostly shit sequel just tried to recreate it and go one up on everything without doing anything new, but the original is really smug and self satisfied and Statham I think is at his most unlikeable in these films.
this is crazytalk, Chelios is adorable (and tbh more of a real person than almost any Statham character). Spy is probably the only film he's better in? BUT: the biggest crazytalk is thinking that there was any way Crank 2 could possibly go OTHER than one-upping everything. And in fact they do plenty that's new in the course of that, like two characters transforming into kaiju of themselves in the middle of a fight scene.
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Sunday, 11 March 2018 22:56 (six years ago) link
its no 16 on the list
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 March 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link
surely statham career-best in snatch
yeah but as Road Warrior, not Mad Max 2. outside the fold, there was no indication it placed
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Sunday, 11 March 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link
i had a lot of fun on this thread. back in the day.
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2018 00:37 (six years ago) link
i'm a bit Statham-agnostic, i think his brand of brute charisma has its charms but not all of the time. i'm completely down with any style or type of movie but Crank didn't work for me as well as it did on others, ultimately. my beef w/it is ultimately pretty limited, i won't argue much one way or another, not even for Crank: High Voltage which i just couldn't get w/whatsoever. i have no issues w/Crank placing, nothing in this poll for me is a total hard pass.
― omar little, Monday, 12 March 2018 02:12 (six years ago) link
most Statham films are pretty empty, but he's got to do something to keep busy until Neveldine & Taylor win $113,000 on a scratch-it and make Crank 3 in a weekend with an iphone
ten years since we polled Statham!
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Monday, 12 March 2018 08:54 (six years ago) link
hey, this guy knows what's up:
also, Crank 2 is in no way worse than Crank 1 - it just simply couldn't exist without the former, and is openly a distillation and exaggeration of the wondrousness of its predecessor. It is truly a tragedy that this was a box-office flop, and that we shall be denied the otherwise inevitable glory of CRANK 3-D.― oh sh!t a ¯\⎝⏠___⏠⎠/¯ (sic), Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:35 AM
― oh sh!t a ¯\⎝⏠___⏠⎠/¯ (sic), Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:35 AM
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Monday, 12 March 2018 09:09 (six years ago) link
also day and knight is an unofficial mi imo
Fair.
I have seen most of Jaws, but I think it was something I was paying sporadic attention to as a callow youth, so I missed most/all of the build-up and only remember the gorier later bits.
Possibly similarly with Commado, or tbh I may just have watched a lot of "100 best Arnie lines!" Youtubes. My Arnie shame is clearly Total Recall, made all the worse by the fact that I have seen the remake (on a plane, mind).
I have a to-do item (on the "this list may see me out" list, mind) to catch up on all of these - I'm far more likely to get to it than the Comedy poll, for sure.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 12 March 2018 12:12 (six years ago) link
this is crazytalk, Chelios is adorable (and tbh more of a real person than almost any Statham character). Spy is probably the only film he's better in?
statham is an absolute fucking treasure in spy, i unironically love that guy
― I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 March 2018 12:44 (six years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 March 2018 13:20 (six years ago) link
many xposts to Dr C but posting vmic I will say that Mad Max is a must-watch. Especially if you have seen and/or enjoyed Fury Road. If you’ve seen Fury Road then it is worthwhile bc Mad Max pulls off a similar level of vehicular intensity & creativity with absolutely no money & no cgi, just pure gonzo creativity. And Immortan Joe = the same actor that is Toecutter in Mad Max. Though caveat: Mad Max is a no-budget 70’s movie and is paced as such. Lotta weird sidetracks (saxophone!) so it does have a bit of an Mst3k-fodder feel at times.
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 06:58 (six years ago) link
if i may counter in the interests of balance
mad max 2 is the movie you will recognise in fury road
mad max one is just an australian dildo biker gang documentary with little enough action
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 08:54 (six years ago) link
i'd always avoided it because i'd heard it starts with some horrible act of violence against his family or something?
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:23 (six years ago) link
yes, also SPOILER SPOILER a dog ;_;
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:24 (six years ago) link
ah no that doesnt happen til like an hour in
nothing at all happens before that
srsly its an interesting movie but it really isnt as marketed
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:28 (six years ago) link
it's true that max's family don't make it out alive (spoiler alert) but it's not a particularly graphic end iirc?
veg very much otm that mad max is both fantastic and also a bit of a victim of the circumstances of its shoestring production
mad max is kinda the proof-of-concept, mad max 2 is a phenomenally exciting sharpening of miller's vision, thunderdome is an odd, charming but undeniably inferior quasi-kids-movie and fury road is takes all the good parts of the previous three and turns them into the gleaming, machine-tooled apex of the whole thing
― I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:34 (six years ago) link
yep
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:38 (six years ago) link
also lotr villains spotting iirc
Touchez pas au GrisbiClasses Tous RisquesThe League of GentlemanThe Silent PartnerThe Anderson TapesInvestigation of a Citizen Above SuspicionMilan Caliber 9Cash on Demand
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:49 (six years ago) link
Wrong effing thread!
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:58 (six years ago) link
yeah bizarro otmMM1 does show some pretty awful violence against women. Partly because it is an exploitation movie and partly because the story is intended to push Max beyond sanity in the worst ways imaginable. but it’s def not entirely a “fun watch”i just dont like ppl skipping 1 and going straight to 2. it bugs me.
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:21 (six years ago) link
Has anyone put together a reel of all the scenes in Wild Bunch with the bunch just collectively laughing maniacally?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:10 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i believe sam peckinpah did, it was called "the end of the movie the wild bunch"
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:15 AM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i lol hard every time i think of this post
― omar little, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link
I finally watched Red Dawn over the break (it's on Amazon Prime). Back when I was an actual spasming 6-year-old, I had seen tv commercials for the network premier of Red Dawn and gotten all worked up about it and my parents agreed to let me watch. But within the first few minutes when the teacher and all the students started getting killed, I was horrified and made them turn it off. This time around I made it all the way through! A very stupid movie, but kinda a blast.
― ☮️ (peace, man), Monday, 30 December 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link
it’s so bananas but a deep favorite
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 December 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link
pour one out for William Friedkin #14 and #37 in our action poll, #1 in our uh hearts?or cars, maybe. https://imgur.com/dKJr4NVhttps://64.media.tumblr.com/848c880abe408d43287347f7fa586e82/tumblr_miwmsaYV5p1qg4blro1_500.gif
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 August 2023 23:46 (nine months ago) link