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― CC72, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― henry miller, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link
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― CC72, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Really dude, learn to tell Rains from Conrad Veidt. You guys talk about analog recordings the way you do b&w?
"Casablanca" is arguably a great MOVIE -- iconic, beloved, still works its magic (I've likely seen it 11 or 12 times myself) -- but to claim it as some great work of cinema borders on laughable. For all the smart punchy lines the Epstein brothers wrote, there's howlers like "Victor, please don't go to the underground meeting tonight."
It was a happy accident, as described above, and just look at the scenes before Rick's entrance to see what a hoary, jerrybuilt melodrama it might've been.
Isabella Rossellini says her mom often wondered aloud why fans always wanted to talk about "that Bogart picture."
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Masked Gazza, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link
i do like conrad vedit that said. but why this film, not 'the spy in black' or whatever. there are lots of films like 'casablanca' really. (like 'pepe le moko', mofo).
― henry miller, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― CC72, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link
CafePress does better turnaround than that, dude.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link
You know, I'm still gonna say it's a masterpiece of cinema because of how it all blends, the set, the atmosphere, the romance, the tension...
If cinema is entertainment then Casablanca remains one its masterpieces. Sit and beat your meat over Godard all you want.
P.S. Ned, quite possibly. It's about how long it's gonna take me to get it completed. The first one should be out sooner.
― CC79, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link
-- Ned Raggett (ne...) (webmail), January 5th, 2005 3:11 PM. (link)
Pshh. I'm saying NOWT!
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― henry miller, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link
just like the chanel ads with the girl that walks around in golden water! you know those? way superior to casablanca, and well worth seeing.
ps: yum ;)
― :| (....), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― CC72, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link
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― henry miller, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― CC72, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link
BZZZZZT!!!!
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link
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― CC72, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link
This could be the start of a beautiful friendship.WHAT AM I SAYING??? -- mark grout (mark.grou...), January 5th, 2005 6:35 AM. (mark grout)
that you're Calum?
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― CC72, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link
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― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link
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― CC72, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
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― CC72, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stevem On X (blueski), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link
TS: Louie, This Could be the Start of a Beautiful Friendship vs. Sebastian, Would You Please Come Inside?
Notorious wins again.
― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― CC72, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Sam, if it's December 1941 in Casablanca, what time is it in New York?
SAM Uh, my watch stopped.
RICK I bet they're asleep in New York. I'll bet they're asleep all over America.
then dealing with the emotional residue of bitterness that many Americans felt for Europe following WWI would be an important task.
I think 'Sunrise' is the best B&W film, BTW, though I love 'The Third Man'. Something about 'Citizen Kane' irks me, FWIW. I think I prefer 'The Magnificent Ambersons'.
― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link
I recommend Dog Star Man
It is perhaps the ultimate anti-auteur film in that it was really a giant fluke
or in that Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bergman are very different from Errol Flynn and Olivia de Havilland
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Something about 'Citizen Kane' irks me, FWIW. I think I prefer 'The Magnificent Ambersons'. OTM. I always thought CK was a little-cold blooded and OW hated his character too much. But the older and more Kane-like I get myself, I now see it as a God-like Fassbinderian statement of: I Love My Character, Therefore I Must Torture Him.
― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link
There is a lot of potency to Casablanca, and it was quite obviously a call for America to wake up and go to war - rightly in this case. You can, at the end of the day, analyse films to death (I do it too), but I feel a movie lives or dies - at the end of the day - on how entertaining it is.
― CC72, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stevem On X (blueski), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link
I just watched it the other day and despite knowing much of the screenplay almost by heart, I still find it funny and touching.
― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link
you seem to have this wrong. The Third Man is the film that plays to Europeans' feelings of superiority wrt America. Casablanca, released a year after America entered the war, is the film for Americans to imagine they were doing the right thing all along.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link
P.S. Casablanca was actually commissioned and written before America went to war.
― CC72, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link
This is a very interesting account of the making of 'Casablanca'.
― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link