2008 Primaries Thread

Last proper election? I can believe that, but Bush still won. xposts

Blame Karl Rove, yo.

this state by state thing is cool and all but are any networks/sites displaying a running count of total delegates?

bush had the evangelical turnout that he didnt have in 2000

xxp

Mike Huckabee: "Every person has intrinsic worth and value . . . " Blah, blah, blah.

Shut up, Mike Huckabee. Stop hurting Mitt Romney's chances.

ABC projects Obama winner in ND.

huckabee "this ol' razorback" lol

yeah, after tonight I can't see how McCain WOULDN'T court Huck as a veep nominee. Listening to conservative talk radio the last few days has been instructive -- Limbaugh, Schmitt, et al excoriating callers for their enthusiastic support for Huckabee, deaf to the fact that he'd won their hearts.

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/us/news/editorial/0/c9/0c9118090f751b78b7119adfa5458aef.jpeg

But Huckabee will be a liability in those swing states.

We'll be debating evolution in the Northeast!

(xp)

SHUT UP, GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE.

Meanwhile the world's biggest Romney toadie soldiers on:

Given the Rush blast, the Dobson declaration, and Huck's strength in the south, McCain can't be considered a frontrunner by any conventional standard.

guys cindy mccain is scary looking

-- gr8080, Tuesday, February 5, 2008 12:33 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

according to ABC's political directior, the national POPULAR vote for Obama and HRC is within a few thousand.

Meantime, the current NY Times main photo:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/02/05/us/05campaign2-511.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/shakesvoltage/05mccain-600.jpg

Republicans: The party of MEN.

note that Joe Leib needs no 'shopping

JEFF T 0TM x 10^100000000000000000000000000000000

Huckabee with Patriots dig lol

i just ran the cspan numbers from 10 minutes ago and:
Hillary: 2,791,174
Obama 2,757,911

yeah but what about DELEGATES?

There's no way of knowing about the delegates yet, right?

not according to the AP, hang on, lemme find it

obama "winning" connecticut surprises me. what separates those rich white folx from their neighbors?

delegates won SO FAR

IE: what actually matters in a primary race?

xxp

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080206/ap_on_el_pr/super_tuesday_delegates

McCain, Obama lead delegate count

By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writer 9 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Sen. John McCain jumped to a commanding lead in the Republican delegate race over Mitt Romney in early results on Super Tuesday. Sen. Barack Obama was ahead of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

McCain won 198 delegates to 0 for Romney and 18 for former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee. A total of 1,023 delegates are up for grabs in 21 states.
Overall, McCain led with 300 delegates, to 93 for Romney and 61 for Huckabee. It takes 1,191 to win the nomination at this summer's convention in St. Paul.

Obama had 43 delegates in early voting Tuesday, while Clinton had 32. A total of 1,681 delegates are at stake in 22 states and American Samoa.
Overall, that gave Clinton 291 delegates, to 243 for Obama, with 2,025 delegates required to claim the nomination in Denver at this summer's convention.

The AP tracks the delegate races by projecting the number of national convention delegates won by candidates in each presidential primary or caucus, based on state and national party rules, and by interviewing unpledged delegates to obtain their preferences.

In some states, like Iowa and Nevada, local precinct caucuses are the first stage in the allocation process. The AP uses preferences expressed in those caucuses to project the number of national convention delegates each candidate will have when they are chosen at county, congressional district or state conventions.

Romney: THIS CAMPAIGN'S GOING ON!

Yes . . .

Well shit, it'd be nice if AP would give us some place to look at that delegate info in more detail!

gah, i mean going all the way back to iowa

fuck this stupid outdated system ffs

xxp

This page is pretty cool, esp. how you can zoom in and look at county-by-county returns: http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/demmap/index.html

i mean, am i missing something?

delegates are what count, not states or poular votes, right?

why isn't that what's at the bottom of every TV screen?

yes delegates are the only thing that counts, besides superdelegates

Delegates tonight according to ABC:

Obama 197
Hillary 190

(Delegates won so far tonight, I should say.)

Romney's speech is pretty crypto-racist here

obama "winning" connecticut surprises me.

I dunno, man. Hartford's a pretty big city.

Also Romney's speech is creeping me out.

Warms my heart how well Obama's doing in MN

People aren't showing delegates because they don't know until district-by-district votes come in for the Dems, since it's proportional. They can call the states way before they can call the delegates. Right?

We asked people to vote for me. "THEY HAVEN'T!"

link to the Romney speech?

I wonder what the next debate's going to be like. Cordial? Knife-fighting?

(A little tent revivalist thing going there, Romney had).

Speech ongoing, Nicole.

GOP Delegates won tonight:

McCain 244
Romney 56
Huckabee 45

GOP Delegates won total:

McCain 337
Romney 133
Huckabee ?

(There's a lot of states Huckabee's up in that they haven't called yet, though--MO and GA especially.)

A least Romney has a little spark of life tonight.

thin-lipped white man

NBC sez GA goes to the HuckaBeast

So to summarize, on the GOP side, we have a candidate who can only win in states he's lived in (Romney), a candidate who can't win (Huckabee), and a candidate who can only win in states the GOP will lose in the GE (McCain).

that's the hope.