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What don't you like about Malkin?

i think that she's nasty, ignorant, and throws off an evil "i've got mine!" vibe -- i.e., i'm the daughter of (nice) immigrants (from a spanish-speaking country), but THOSE immigrants from spanish-speaking countries are wrecking the country. (what's tagalog for "uncle tom" or "tio taco"?) and that's what i could make out -- the rest of her written spiel is illegible ranting.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 17 June 2004 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Mmm. I disagree, but I can see where you'er coming from re: her arrogance, sometimes. The "I Got Mine" tag is apt, too, but I don't find her ignorant at all. A lot of what she's saying - and being the daughter of immigrants you have to admit it takes balls for her to say it - is right on.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 17 June 2004 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I once did a "Republicans S&D" that covered lots of the same ground. And Roger, "Liberals You Like" would be a great idea for a thread, since even liberals probably can't name that many.

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

being the daughter of immigrants you have to admit it takes balls for her to say it
I hate arguments that are predicated on the writer being a member of the group he is criticizing.
I.E. "Look, a black columnist is against affirmative action! That definitively proves that affirmative action is wrong!"
Not that I'm saying you're making this argument, Roger.

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:08 (nineteen years ago) link

How do you feel about Stanley Crouch? Because I'm guessing that's who you're referring to.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Ward Connerly, actually. Or Dinesh D'Souza, who is far worse. "Look, an East Indian guy believes Racism Is Dead! He would know!"

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, I understand that. Agreed on that front. But doesn't their race, then, become a factor in the negative as well? I mean, are we to believe the papers that run these columnists aren't exploiting these people because of their unpredictable 'wacky' viewpoints?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's totally a dog-bites-man (or dog-bites dog?) appeal. When I watch a debate on CNN, I always know that the woman or the member of a visble minority will be arguing the Republican talking points.

So Connerly et al. only got their jobs because of affirmative action? How ironic!

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:26 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm the son of polish immigrants. i like fresh-off-the-boat polish immigrants. but they don't like me.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link

GRANDson, actually.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked Bobos in Paradise, but Brooks has sucked ever since. And John McWhorter wrote the most offensive column about hip-hop that I've ever read.

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Otherwise, I guess I like most of the conservatives that liberals like.

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Tom McCall, Mark Hatfield, Daniel Bell, Bob Packwood (before the tongue scandal)

― jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

sen. chuck hagel (of nebraska).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link

seconded

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link

"Ward Connerly, actually. Or Dinesh D'Souza, who is far worse. "Look, an East Indian guy believes Racism Is Dead! He would know!"

I am convinced that Dinesh D'Souza is the spawn of Satan.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Who would also know, I guess

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Matos said what I was going to.

Dee. that's it.

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 17 June 2004 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Roger I don't see why I should go first, but I will. I had a long conversation with Bugliosi, and he was very insightful, and I'm not gonna say soulful, but he's got a conscience. Yes, he likes money (again, not sure when not liking money got to be a conservative trait), and making money, but as far as I'm concerned he's nowhere anything like Johnny Cochran. Do you compare the two because they're both lawyers? I hope you realize they're completely different, Bugliosi was L.A. County D.A. whereas Cochran's a defense lawyer - and those are two completely different things (in opposition to each other, even). And Bugliosi's book on the 2000 election fiasco was fantastic - and showed that unlike most Republicans desparate to win back the White House, he has principles. I just don't understand your beef with the man, and I can only assume that its based in some sort of weird misunderstanding of who he is and what he's done.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Admittedly, I don't have the vast knowledge on the man you do - maybe he's a terrific guy. But I know from the few interviews I've seen with him, and the handling of the Manson trial, that I don't like him.

As far as his relation to Cochran is concerned - they both seem to be seeking to gratify their own tremendous egos via the court system

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:05 (nineteen years ago) link

What about his handling of the Manson trial did you not like? And since I can assume that you, like me, weren't even born yet when it happened, why does it matter? Also, Bugliosi hasn't been practicing for a number of years now, so your elaboration on the comparison to Cochran is even more bullshit than it was had you not elaborated.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Stanley Crouch. Seriously, have you ever actually tried to listen to 'Bitches Brew' all the way through

― dave q, Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Cobservative Music Critics You Like

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link

"cobservative"

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread makes me curious who on ILX would identify themselves as a conservative.

Well, I am also something of a libertarian, but I can identify w/liberals much more than conservatives and I tend to like them a lot better.

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Thursday, 17 June 2004 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Tom Selleck, Bo Derek, Scott Baio.

― Star Hustler, Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Tom Selleck is a republican?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link

gary numan. (though allegedly he now supports labour.)

frank "i'm a practical conservative" zappa. (though unfortunately he's dead).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Tom Selleck is a republican?

Have you been living under a rock?

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I just don't pay attention to that crap.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I know that Selleck bitchslapped Rosie O'Donnell on her show after she made some remark about gun control and he collects rifles like that Sharps rifle he used in Quigley Down Under.

Good for him.

― Star Hustler, Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:16 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/News/9905/20/showbuzz/rosie.tom.jpg

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:17 (nineteen years ago) link

He wasn't Elmer Fudd-ly enough in his portrayal of Ike.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

(i believe he is affiliated w/the nra somehow)

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

(I hear Charlton Heston is too, duh)

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

(why do you think Rosie attacked him? NRA ads, duh)

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link

He should have shot her.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Shit hell, William S. Burroughs was card-carrying NRA!

Moderate/MOR Senate Republicans are fine. I like them. Too bad they deal with bozos like Trent Lott and kittyslayer Frist.

William Safire is a respectable conservative. Oddly, I don't mind Pat Buchanan nowadays. I like Col. David Hackworth too.

― Star Hustler, Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:23 (nineteen years ago) link

ANYWAY, if you want an example why Andrew Sullivan's twisting in the wind fascinates me increasingly, this riposte to Jonah Goldberg is up-to-date and worth the read.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link

William Safire is batshit crazy and his political columns are worthless. His word columns are okay if you need crossword clues, tho.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:25 (nineteen years ago) link

i actually watched that fracas go down

Pat Buchanan is entertaining on the Mclaughlin group, but cant say he is likeable.

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link

william safire cuckolded richard nixon's corpse for ariel sharon's cock. he is despicable in every way.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link

William Safire's political predictions are about as accurate as the Times's Saturday NFL predictions, ie. never.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Another big seconding on David Hackworth.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link

what percentage of Nixon's speeches did Safire write?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Safire is indeed batshit crazy, but I still respect him and enjoy reading some of his stuff.

― Star Hustler, Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Hm, the Hackworth site looks like one that I need to monitor more closely here -- been too long since I checked it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 June 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Is Hitchens conservative now?

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Gerry Spence. Is he considered conservative? He's a great man.

I remember listening to this libertarian/populist/isolationist type on the radio named Chuck Harder. He was pretty cool. He had an unfortunate tendency to really deride the UN, but was anti-NAFTA, anti-GATT, pro-farmer, pro-factories in the U.S. borders, and he was kind of like a right-wing Ralph Nader. But he was ignorant in foreign affairs. Nevertheless, his radio show For the People was enjoyable.

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I adore Jan Crouch's delivery and showmanship. She is my favorite televangelist. Her husband Paul is funny too. They provide countless hours of religious entertainment. I don't know if I could forgive them for preying on the schizophrenic and disadvantaged though.

― Star Hustler, Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Christopher Hitchens is just a bitch.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:19 (nineteen years ago) link

also I can't believe I forgot G. Gordon Liddy. He is my favorite conservative.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:19 (nineteen years ago) link

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