"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

It would be hilarious if the producers delivered something like that to ABC for broadcast last week and let them hang for a day or two before saying "lol j/k"

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i'm with whomever said that what who we're seeing as locke is merely an island apparition. locke is dead and he is in that container on the beach.

locke is no longer guiding his own fate post-death, the island is putting things in place.

if locke is being animated by the island it would make more sense for him to be like christian, i.e., to have a real physical body

if dead-Locke is in Illana's box, wouldn't she already have taken out ghost-Locke? Didn't some of her men stand with Cesar when he was trying to stop Ben and Locke?

my question then would be, would a Christian/Locke dead person island apparition be the same phenomenon/category as Rousseau's friends after the smoke monster got them, and/or Alex when she talked to Ben via the monster? xpost

^^ yeah good question dude

this season is such a rip-off.

Love this theory. But it could also mean more people who are already dead 'appear' on the island. Alpert?

Is the finale tomorrow?

y

what makes you think christian has a real physical body?

"what's in the bahhhxxxx?"

i think locke might even be smokey? they sort of hinted at it when Ben and Sun were waiting for the monster to come out of the bushes but the rustling just turned out to be locke. and then he conveniently disappeared while Ben had his little "this is your life" recap.

well christian's body disappeared from his coffin and he could pick up a framed photograph from the wall.

couldn't touch locke in four-toed statue time tho.

Richard w/ the ship in the bottle makes me think the writers are suggesting he's part of the Black Rock crew.

I'm speculating that whatever ghost-Locke does with Jacob, it ends up making the Others lose 'control' of the island to the Shadow of the Statue crew. Season 6 is the war to get control back.

what makes you think christian has a real physical body?

― cutty, Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:54 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

his bodys not in the coffin anymore silly

richard is totally a pirate.

a butt pirate!

his body could be anywhere. it was a plane crash. i'm not convinced that he has a real physical body. SPECULATIVE.

i bet if locke really is dead the reveal will somehow be done thru miles... or we'll see locke on the '70s island

Ilana knows what's in that metal box right? So I don't think she'd be so good at pretending that her reactions to Locke after meeting him would be phoney. He doesn't seem to know what her agenda is either tho.

Locke was found in the jungle near the beach by people right? so he teleported or whatever and the empty (like Christian's) coffin is still on board the plane.

i like the idea that richard's just been camping out on the beach building ships in bottles for the past three years.

Or if the Locke we're seeing is a Smokey apparition, the actual-dead Locke could also reveal hisself to Hugo?

this season is such a rip-off.

― tehresa, Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:49 AM (16 minutes ago)

wait, are you serious or sarcastic there? 'cause, like, NO.

Ideally I'd like the reveal to consist of black smoke suddenly pouring out of Locke's every orifice as he opens his mouth and begins speaking in that weird clicky noise the monster makes.

Yeah, I've really dug this season for the most part.

i was serious. i really feel like they wasted lots of valuable time. i feel led on, toyed with. and not in a good way.

What are some things you feel wasted valuable time? I mean, especially compared to, say, seasons 2 or 3, and given that we're talking about a network television show.

oh i don't know, wandering around in the jungle just to fill up time, or flashabcks that told us tons of stuff we already knew?

it's become so hard to care about any of the romantic stuff. Jack and Kate? fuck off. Daniel and Charlotte? fuck off. Sun and Jin? obv they will re-unite at some point and that's nice but ffs you'd rather return to the island than stay and look after your own precious son you mad lady...

altho i did feel bad for Juliet and James when Kate appeared and presumably is the cause of why they return to the island.

tehresa otm

liked the eps when they were skipping in time.

oh i don't know, wandering around in the jungle just to fill up time, or flashabcks that told us tons of stuff we already knew?

― tehresa, Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:39 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

again, how is this different from every other season?

This telling-us-stuff-we-already-know complaint never makes any sense to me. This is a show that had a flashback about a toy plane in a bank vault. Filling in the blanks and offering slightly new info each episode has been its MO since the beginning. Why should we expect anything different now?

My vote for what is in Illana's box--Alvar Hanso's body. He wanted to be resurrected on the island.

not really hurtling towards any one point or another, is the difference. other seasons were much tighter. still enjoyed this season tho.

desmond/penny are the only couple on the show worth caring abt imo

What about Miles/Hurley.

I mean, just because they haven't consummated it yet doesn't mean...

save that for your livejournal dude

This is a show that had a flashback about a toy plane in a bank vault.

ya and it was a terrible episode!! the best parts of the show (imo) are always the first & last four episodes of each season--or in the case of last season, the whole season

ehhh last season had eggtown and the one with juliet and her shrink.

every time i think about watching s1 again i remember the toy plane ha ha. also the boxset won't work on my laptop ffs (same goes for BSG s1).

man y'all touchy bout some tv!

i thought the plane would "mean something" coz it was a bit like the plane from nigeria rite. still holding out tbh.

for the first tiem i haven't been able to keep track of what matters in the show. there hasn't been a strong arc. and so far as i can tell the show has rested a lot more on "the island wanted it to happen" than ever before. maybe that was inevitable as they began breaking out explanations. but i didn't want "fate" to be the explanation, and that's what seems to be happening...

i agree that it's gotten harder to differentiate between actual THIS IS IMPORTANT moments and random red herrings/distractions/one-off stories, but i don't mind as much. if they need to clutter things up a bit just so that all signs don't point to one big obvious conclusion everyone will see coming a mile a way, then it's for the greater good.

i've had enough of the 'hint of something at this point but then no follow up on it until many many MANY episodes later' technique.

i dunno if this is just a trend in sci-fi way more than anything else (obv happened in BSG, happens to an extent in Dr Who) or not

save that for your livejournal dude

I was going to put it in my Geronimo Jackson 33 1/3 book!

i kind of like the way there are so many threads that are left dormant for ages and then picked up again when you least expect it. ideally for me, every episode of Season 6 would come back to some small nagging question from the first couple seasons and answer it, just to satisfy whatever small percentage of viewers care about it and to prove that they're not completely screwing with us. xpost

xpost Geronimo Jackson, "Ham Sandwiches and a Corpse" (2010)

for the first tiem i haven't been able to keep track of what matters in the show. there hasn't been a strong arc. and so far as i can tell the show has rested a lot more on "the island wanted it to happen" than ever before. maybe that was inevitable as they began breaking out explanations. but i didn't want "fate" to be the explanation, and that's what seems to be happening...

Same for me too - I was so so psyched for this season, and it started out brilliantly. I know there's a whole season left but I was hoping they might tie up a few things.. actually, it's not even that, it's more that unexplained mysterious shit is happening ALL the time now - not only does it feel less important each time but it has started me doubting whether it will be all tightly wound together at the end. More than ever it seems like they're making it up as they go along, and when you think about what's actually happening plot-wise it seems a shame that all this crazy stuff is frustrating me rather than making me psyched for some super explanatory story for it all.