Dawn of the Planet of the Apes: will it be good?

Redistricting of the Planet of the Apes: Tenderloin

although I'm concerned this will be more like just the last 30 mins of the last one. too much shooting and not enough cool ape stuff

No doubt I have a post saying this upthread, but the last film I made it until maybe up to the last 10 or 15 minutes or so, looked at my watch, then just decided I was so sick of watching monkeys shooting machine guns that I just left.

Planet of the Apes: SoPA

the new one mostly features apes using arrows and shit

Planet Of The Apes Lite

they could do a faithful mid-budget version of the original novel now, w/ a high-tech CG Ape City, but of course it is a talky satire and hence of zero interest to Fox.

I was so sick of watching monkeys shooting machine guns

does not compute

yeah cannot comprehend

I recognize that on paper it makes no sense. But perhaps the monkey CGI is so good that I stopped thinking of them as humanoid monkeys and more just people firing machine guns like any other action movie.

still not following u

this was great, good ending to this part of the story. if they go on it would be interesting to see what they do, but they don't need to, as this kind of sets things up for the original film.

a few questions: 1) I assume that guy wasn't the girl's father because she shows no emotion at seeing him dead, as compared to the tears she sheds over the dead monkey about 20 minutes later 2) the virus robbing people of speech: she seems fine despite having no speech, so my guess is that it only affected the ability to talk, it didn't do anything else. but how long do we think she was like this? 3) it's never really clear how bad the rest of the world is. they seem to be travelling across Utah to Colorado at the end and don't encounter any people, so by this point, is most of humanity wiped out?

it's never really clear how bad the rest of the world is. they seem to be travelling across Utah to Colorado at the end and don't encounter any people, so by this point, is most of humanity wiped out?

honestly despite the annoying opening crawl there was a lot about the world and even just the spatial logic of the movie that was completely lost to me

^^ this. i'm like are they headed to tahoe?

i assumed this took place between northern california and washington (it looks like Muir Woods again at the beginning and looked like Muir Beach where they found the girl) but they seemed to move very far north pretty quickly, I guess monkeys have faster velocity than I thought.

There's a reason for the saying "fast as a monkey."

oh also the special effects in this movie are probably the best and most realistic I've ever seen.

I've heard that from a few people, but I also thought that about the first and second movies, so I'm not sure what could make the effects better. An even more believable talking monkey running around with a machine gun?

you will absolutely believe these monkeys are real and you will care deeply.

but everything else is pretty amazing too. There is a very large environmental event that happens at the end of the movie which is breathtaking.

well of course the one w/ Woody Harrelson wd have an environmental event

it's not quite like that. I just didn't want to spoil what it was by being explicit.

Do the monkeys throw their poop?

Yes

Sold!

haha yes they do, one of the best scenes

monkeys = feces flinging

i assumed this took place between northern california and washington

I wasn't so much talking about the real-world geography as much as where events took place in relation to one another

trajectory appears to be from marin to sierras to camp at the california/nevada border

then what was the desert?

why can't these monkeys provide a map

how does cornelius get all the way to new york

lol akm i stopped at the camp for a reason

"and then they crossed Nevada by foot and set up in Salt Lake City"

when are all the monkeys going to start wearing clothes

these things keep me up at night

when are all the monkeys going to start wearing clothes

Ask Chewbacca.

Monkeys seem to do OK in climates both cool and tropical, so unless modesty is a concern they probably don't have to worry too much about cover. I bet given a choice they'd get a trim in the summer, though.

How is food production going in this post-monkey apocalypse? What is the North American monkey diet? Yes, we have no bananas.

btw Cornelius would get violent if you called chimps "monkeys"

(bcz they are not)

"Monkeys seem to do OK in climates both cool and tropical, so unless modesty is a concern they probably don't have to worry too much about cover."

yeah I know but Cornelieus and Dr. Zaius wore full on tunics.

Affectations, most likely, but I think they mostly wore them to hide the zippers, tbh.

apes wore clothes in the Boulle book

apes wore clothes in the Boulle book

yeah it's the humans who wore no clothes to make clearer the distinction/inversion : civilized/animals (but also lol@"mostly wore them to hide the zippers, tbh.")
this latest movie seems pretty good with WH going full Brando/apocalypse now, apparently.

and I guess it allowed to throw more gratuitous nudity too !

ape nudity

the more I think about the new movie, the less I like it

So having just seen the trailers, this seems like another one, like "King Kong," jammed full with Vietnam-referencing imagery. Or at least Vietnam movie references. Or maybe just First Blood references.

honestly Skull Island handled the Vietnam angle better

And yet in Skull Island it was afaict totally pointless.

ape nudity

There is a steamroom scene w/ Dr Zaius and the gorilla general in Beneath, the first sequel to the original.