Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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“I miss candidate Trump. Now he’s just a pathetic mess.”

go fuck yourself

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:37 (seven years ago) link

I think he’s dumb and doesn’t know the difference,” a former FBI official who worked aspects of the Russia investigation told The Daily Beast. “He thinks he’s arranging some business deal except that he’s not

This I buy, above all else.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link

Anyway, I was thinking just this on the way home

Given McMaster is quoted denying things not being alleged in the story, wonder if he was a source.

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) May 16, 2017

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:39 (seven years ago) link

Just talked to friend in IC who has, until now, pointedly dismised anti-Trump hysteria.

He is foaming at mouth w/rage over tonight's story.

— Jeff B/DDHQ (@EsotericCD) May 16, 2017

"Shit like this is the end of Five Eyes if it goes on. He's not a traitor, he's a stupid f*****g idiot who can't be trusted to keep secrets"

— Jeff B/DDHQ (@EsotericCD) May 16, 2017

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:44 (seven years ago) link

Predicting ANYTHING strikes me as a fool's game, but I kinda have a feeling that the last seven days will turn out to be a particular tipping point.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:45 (seven years ago) link

He's not a traitor, he's a stupid f*****g idiot who can't be trusted to keep secrets

wow amazing who could have seen this coming???????????

nomar, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:47 (seven years ago) link

stoked for the coup while he's out of the country next week

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:50 (seven years ago) link

wow amazing who could have seen this coming???????????

yeah seriously anyone who thought Trump was working some street smart rope a dope angle up until now is a drooling fucking moron, on par with the baby-brained idiot POTUS

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:54 (seven years ago) link

There is no bigger banana republic in the world that the USA right now, so a palace coup is on the cards.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:54 (seven years ago) link

i wonder how much of this was due to the fact that he is incredibly lonely and the russians were the first visitors to his WH to slap his back and be nice to him

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:57 (seven years ago) link

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/15/trump-russia-classified-information-238417

But several advisers and others close to Trump said they wouldn't be surprised if Trump gave information he shouldn't have.

One adviser who often speaks to the president said the conversation was likely freewheeling in the Oval Office, and he probably wanted to impress the officials.

"He doesn't really know any boundaries. He doesn't think in those terms," this adviser said. "He doesn't sometimes realize the implications of what he's saying. I don't think it was his intention in any way to share any classified information. He wouldn't want to do that."

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:00 (seven years ago) link

so....

He's not a traitor, he's a stupid f*****g idiot who can't be trusted to keep secrets

nomar, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:01 (seven years ago) link

And, short of inbred Habsburgs, he is the stupidest head of state of all time.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:03 (seven years ago) link

Violating the oath of office does not require violating a criminal statute. If the President decided to write the nuclear codes on a sticky note on his desk and then took a photo of it and tweeted it, he would not technically have violated any criminal law–just as he hasn’t here. He has the constitutional authority to dictate that the safeguarding of nuclear materials shall be done through sticky notes in plain sight and tweeted, even the authority to declassify the codes outright. Yet, we would all understand this degree of negligence to be a gross violation of his oath of office.

Congress has alleged oath violations—albeit violations tied to criminal allegations or breaches of statutory obligations—all three times it has passed or considered seriously articles of impeachment against presidents: against Andrew Johnson (“unmindful of the high duties of his oath of office”), Richard Nixon (“contrary to his oath”), and Bill Clinton (“in violation of his constitutional oath”). Further, two of the three articles of impeachment against Nixon alleged no direct violation of the law. Instead, they concerned Nixon’s abuse of his power as President, which, like the President putting the nuclear codes on Twitter, is an offense that can only be committed by the President and has thus never been explicitly prohibited in criminal law.

There’s thus no reason why Congress couldn’t consider a grotesque violation of the President’s oath as a standalone basis for impeachment—a high crime and misdemeanor in and of itself.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:07 (seven years ago) link

also the point about the combination of this incident with the possibility of trump having conversations in the office seems significant

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:09 (seven years ago) link

The negative momentum right now is considerable. When is he supposed to skip town again?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:14 (seven years ago) link

friday

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:15 (seven years ago) link

Paul Ryan ✔@SpeakerRyan
Individuals who are "extremely careless" with classified information should be denied further access to such info.
12:30 PM - 7 Jul 2016

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:17 (seven years ago) link

speaking of which

That extramarital affair with Newt really paid off. https://t.co/ECHIBx4Mi3

— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) May 14, 2017

mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:24 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_zI-H_XsAECUEc.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:27 (seven years ago) link

.@NYDailyNews comes out swinging.

Tomorrow's front page: "LEAKER OF THE FREE WORLD" pic.twitter.com/VNvgkpDdOs

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) May 16, 2017

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:29 (seven years ago) link

Kushner has an uncanny ability to get himself into stories he has no business being in https://t.co/JI4S8Kv9l8 pic.twitter.com/lf1uHZ3hzX

— Stefan Becket (@becket) May 16, 2017

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:30 (seven years ago) link

I feel like we're going to need more than one thread for this month

― your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Tuesday, May 9, 2017 6:58 PM (six days ago)

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:31 (seven years ago) link

New one each week?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:33 (seven years ago) link

This thread moves in Trump time, it feels like it's a year old, not a month old.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:34 (seven years ago) link

two per week, comes out to about one per fresh scandal

nomar, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:34 (seven years ago) link

We might not all be dead when Trump is gone, but we'll all feel like we're 80. Or dead.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:34 (seven years ago) link

Putin, you sly quipster:

He is acting in accordance with his competence

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:35 (seven years ago) link

How will the history books handle this sad chapter in American history?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:35 (seven years ago) link

There won't be books left when the missiles land.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:36 (seven years ago) link

lol these threads are the same thing every day with little variation and will be for the next 4-8 years. you people are gluttons for pain.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:37 (seven years ago) link

David Brooks channeling David Roberts (without the courtesy of a hat-tip link):

Third, by adulthood most people can perceive how others are thinking. For example, they learn subtle arts such as false modesty so they won’t be perceived as obnoxious.

But Trump seems to have not yet developed a theory of mind. Other people are black boxes that supply either affirmation or disapproval. As a result, he is weirdly transparent. He wants people to love him, so he is constantly telling interviewers that he is widely loved. In Trump’s telling, every meeting was scheduled for 15 minutes but his guests stayed two hours because they liked him so much.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:58 (seven years ago) link

that seems right

Treeship, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 02:03 (seven years ago) link

lol these threads are the same thing every day with little variation and will be for the next 4-8 years. you people are gluttons for pain.

I think you mean ILM

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 02:03 (seven years ago) link

both

Treeship, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 02:05 (seven years ago) link

Dana Milbank on Sean Spicer is a classic example of Beltwayism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-has-sucked-the-lifeblood-out-of-sean-spicer/2017/05/15/5f2812b4-39b7-11e7-a058-ddbb23c75d82_story.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 02:25 (seven years ago) link

Heh

Right now at Trump's DC hotel! pic.twitter.com/95cwrUmbmF

— igorvolsky (@igorvolsky) May 16, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 02:34 (seven years ago) link

Ahhhhhahahahaha

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 02:38 (seven years ago) link

nice one

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 02:57 (seven years ago) link

David Brooks channeling David Roberts (without the courtesy of a hat-tip link):

Someone possibly spotted that - there's a link there now.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 03:01 (seven years ago) link

I see someone thought "Hey, um...let's distract!"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/05/15/trump-to-voluntarily-file-personal-financial-disclosure-for-2016/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 03:04 (seven years ago) link

@DougHenwood
How quick people are to take a vague leak from the CIA—details withheld by the WP on request—and turn it into charges of treason.

Remember the early Trump weeks when it seemed like a serious left opposition was emerging. Now everyone’s taking dictation from Langley.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 03:24 (seven years ago) link

Hey doug, did you ever hear that politics makes strange bedfellows? Well, it is true. Common interests can crop up in the strangest circumstances. Besides, Langley has a lot more experience undermining opposition politicians or governments than the American left does and way more money behind them, so they are likely to do a good professional job of it. No sense in rejecting good help when it is offered.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 03:33 (seven years ago) link

this "lol, everyone loves the cia now amirite" shit from certain ppl on the left is so inane

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 03:37 (seven years ago) link

Hey, guys, been busy this evening, anything going...whaaaaaaaaaaaa?!?!?!?

That financial disclosure thing is HILARIOUS.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/sites/bfi.org.uk/files/styles/full/public/image/true-romance-1993-007-bronson-pinchot-white-paint-face.jpg
"Uh...crooked Hillary (cough). Sad!"

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 03:52 (seven years ago) link

this "lol, everyone loves the cia now amirite" shit from certain ppl on the left is so inane

It goes so WELL with "lol, I thought liberals LIKED Russia" from the right. And, of course, "lol, liberals were calling for Comey's firing just last year, now he's their hero."

'lol, everyone loved Trump when he was firing Lou Ferrigno!'

Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 04:10 (seven years ago) link


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