I think Eyes of the Dragon was where he began the shared universe thing in earnest - as opposed to retconning characters into the narrative as in the case of Salem's Lot and The Stand (although both The Gunslinger and The Stand stemmed from his desire to create an American version of Lord of The Rings, so he may already have been mulling over the connection)
― Number None, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link
i get a post-vancian kinda wolfe-y vibe from the first Dark Tower book but I don't suppose those were actual influences (did book of the new sun come out after the first dark tower anyway...?)
― gimmesomehawnz (Jon not Jon), Monday, 8 May 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link
I'm sure I've read King talking about Vance before (and I'd be surprised if he wasn't a fan tbh)
Wolfe idk
― Number None, Monday, 8 May 2017 19:17 (seven years ago) link
not necessarily wolfe imo but certainly that dried out twilight seventies dusty scifi/fantasy feel
i have been thinking recently about the character and feel of US fantasy vs UK fantasy and that feel, the difference between mesa and countryside, between technology/concept focus and adventure/story focus looms large-ish imo
mostly the covers on the us stuff is angular and has horrible colours like yellow and purple and the uk stuff is loamy and leafy or whatever
king may have set out for lotr but he never got there, i dont think, nor even close. wizard of oz maybe.
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 8 May 2017 22:34 (seven years ago) link
Still a worthy progenitor to be compared against imo.
― Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 May 2017 22:46 (seven years ago) link
yeah not a criticism at all just a comment on the feel of it
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 8 May 2017 22:50 (seven years ago) link
also... idk... louis l'amour wrote some bad fantasy western stuff that i cant help but bring to mind in some parts of tdt, again not the 'bad' that im paralleling but rather the vibe of the books, western, airport novel, american seventies pulp fantasy.... whatnot
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 8 May 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link
I really noticed the Dark Tower 'connections' in The Talisman. The Territories is the big one. But there's also the train Jack and Richard take through the blasted (waste) lands, the wolves, etc. King really mined it for later Dark Tower elements.
― sofatruck, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link
SPOILER FOR INSOMNIA:
Slogging through Insomnia when it came out, and finding the whole point of it was to rescue some random character that had something to do with the Dark Tower (I think?) put me off SK for ten years, I was so disgusted. I've come back big to SK, but jesus that was lame.
― The Thnig, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-creepiest-thing-about-stephen-king-his-acting-career/
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 12:48 (seven years ago) link
i liked insomnia and i even liked heart in atlantis there i said it
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 15:41 (seven years ago) link
insomnia really just IT for senior citizens tho tbrr
Wrong thread, but maybe Trump's the Man in Black after all.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link
Just because the kid actor from Stranger Things is in the movie adaptation, my 12 year old daughter keeps asking me if she could read It. I keep telling her it is not really appropriate for her or her age, but
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 May 2017 01:37 (seven years ago) link
Weird. Anyway, I ultimately told her it was like beer. She is physically capable of drinking it, but she is not ready for it. She seemed to understand the analogy.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 May 2017 01:38 (seven years ago) link
I guess it depends on the kid, but I'd read my fair share of King by that age (although, tbf, I probably didn't tackle It until the ripe old age of 13).
― Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 May 2017 03:19 (seven years ago) link
Guess that doesn't necessarily mean I was ready for it. I like to think of the attendant trauma as character building.
― Download this Man With Hamburder And Mug (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 May 2017 03:20 (seven years ago) link
He writes about sex like someone who can clearly recollect a number of sexual encounters just shy of the number of children he has.
― Jigsaw Pizzle (Old Lunch), Thursday, May 4, 2017 2:22 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I feel like like im reading a 12 y/os pretend diary about their pretend sex life. Its where the true horror shines imo.
― It's always (sunny successor), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link
their sweaty bellies, still slim in those days, slapped together while her teeth clamped around ger cigarette in ecstasy
i mean thats a composite but i definitely remember something something
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, that quote is from IT. Good memory.
― The Thnig, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link
the descriptions of the sex always have a sad-motel/dive bar flavor to them
like even when it's supposed to be attractive people it sounds like a divorced dad & a retired waitress
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link
^^^^exactly
― It's always (sunny successor), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:45 (seven years ago) link
lol. perfect description.
― how's life, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link
Thirded
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link
I am not really very into fiction in general but was suprised at how sophmoric his writing seemed to me - good ideas but he needs STanley Kubrick to eralie trghem
― Violet Jynx, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link
the last part of that sentence took a Lovecraftian turn
― Number None, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link
lol
― in a soylent whey (wins), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link
r'lyeh!
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link
Are you all speaking in Welsh?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link
Llew, h'aey.
― ✓ (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link
valuable np
― fish louse (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:49 (seven years ago) link
king-ready plot synopsis of my dream last night: there's a small band of misunderstood outcasts, i think mostly youths or teens, runaways, but it's heavily and repeatedly foreshadowed that each has a secret or isn't who they say they are etc (i think there's an idea about them being a group of seven people and there are "seven anomalies" in the story that they tell people as they travel around fighting the forces of darkness). the latest joiner, we see in extended first-person flashback, is actually a total psycho though he appears to be a misunderstood misanthrope, a slow-witted bully who was in former times such an asshole to the outcast heroes only because of his abusive father. but when he finally "stood up to" and "ran away from" his dad, during a physical altercation, actually he had taken up dad's beloved chainsaw and chopped off his hands and feet before leaving him to bleed to death in the dimly-lit, un-airconditioned, mildewy cottage they called home. now this nutcase is traveling around in the party and none of them yet had any inkling of the grim fate that lay ahead for at least two of them.
― ﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:51 (seven years ago) link
Can you throw in a child who "knows" things?
― The Thnig, Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:54 (seven years ago) link
almost certainly one of the outcasts. maybe that's his/her terrible secret, they've already seen everything that will happen to the group but they're pretending like everything's fine.
― ﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link
you should call it The Real World: Cincinnati
― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link
lolol djp
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:24 (seven years ago) link
Honestly this makes the film look like a romcom
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--ioHcxOqc--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/o0hych3y69yzvunmbqol.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51le5rF-11L.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link
He's wearing a marvel outfit when it should be dusty tarp
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
Granted, modern io9, but I have been wondering.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/with-less-than-a-month-to-go-why-have-we-seen-so-littl-1796771460
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 July 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link
Waaaaaait, this was co-written by Akiva Goldsman?! Yeah, okay, no thanks.
― Duane Quarterdump (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 July 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link
Why, speaking of!
http://deadline.com/2017/07/akiva-goldsman-tom-clancy-rainbow-six-ologies-avengelyne-paramount-1202126928/
The relevant bit, re the TV show connected to the film:
“The first episode of a show has been written, and we hope to retain Ron’s original idea to mix platforms, something that seemed revolutionary 10 years ago but now is something that others have done,” Goldsman said. “Idris for sure is part of this, and if the movie is Roland Deschain the gunslinger, the show is his origin story, based on the fourth novel in the series, Wizard and Glass.”
All of which is making me thinking the film is the equivalent of that Clone Wars theatrical release.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 July 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link
Too bad Alan Tudyk is too old for Cuthbert now. he'd be perfect.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link
Man, this is totally going to turf out, isn't it.
― Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
Yup
― Number None, Monday, 17 July 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
I saw the trailer before Spider-Man on the weekend and you could sense the bafflement in the room
― Number None, Monday, 17 July 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
yeah I've been more than a little bemused by the trailers so far
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 July 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
Meanwhile, in terms of the other movie coming...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKJmEC5ieOk
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 July 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link
I do love the little red balloon that pops up with the studio logos.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 July 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
I hope they had the judgment to occasionally present Pennywise as just a normal clown instead of ALWAYS SINISTER AND TERRIFYING.
― Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 July 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link