Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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Republicans celebrate stripping millions of healthcare by chugging Bud Light


As drinking the blood of cancer victims would be gauche, Republican lawmakers are preparing to celebrate the House’s narrow passing of their new, Affordable Care Act-gutting bill by quaffing a few ice-cold Bud Lights out in the Rose Garden. “Cases upon cases” of Bud Light—a thin, watery gruel that presents itself as a better, more patriotic version of something you actually prefer, but really just leaves you feeling like shit—were spotted being rolled into the Capitol this afternoon, moments before the bill passed at 217-213.

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Anyway, Bud Light has thus far been silent on the matter, perhaps not wanting to remind everyone about that time it accidentally sort-of endorsed date rape in connection to a bill that just made sexual assault a “preexisting condition.”

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:37 (seven years ago) link

what is with all you commies on twitter now? fat barb offically and proudly endorses capitalism and liberalism

— Barbara (@fat_barb) April 10, 2017

i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:53 (seven years ago) link

?

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link

ref to Ross-Lehtnin's no vote, I suspect

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:05 (seven years ago) link

Am I somehow wrong in thinking that this disgusting bloodfeast is... what America wanted?

Like Twitter is gnawing on our orange pal and its super easy to reconcile "Trump and tiny, rich, racist, sexist power-mad government bullies and vampires love to murder the poor."

But there's like **60 million people** in this country who voted for this, and it was certainly one of the most hot-button issues in the entire campaign not some crazy surprise. Its BAFFLING to me that there are at least 60 million Americans that think heath care should not be a human right, and even more baffling in this economy that there's 60 million Americans so comfortable and healthy that they think we need less health care for everyone

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:08 (seven years ago) link

gaze not into the abyss, large portion of those 60 million don't make rational decisions

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link

It's even better than that, when policies fail or falter, they blame the party that tried to help them!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:15 (seven years ago) link

60 million Americans (at least) are supremely selfish and greedy. Their premiums went up (or their cousin's, or their mechanic's, etc) so LAW MUST BE REPEALSED GRRRR GIT ER DUN I NEED $$ FOR MAH FISHIN BOAT

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link

Its BAFFLING to me that there are at least 60 million Americans that think heath care should not be a human right

surely this include the dems who passed the ACA to begin with as a massive hand job to the insurance industry. last year i was unable to afford health care with the subsidies provided, so i had to go without care and was fined a hefty $700 added onto my year-end taxes. what a great plan.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:27 (seven years ago) link

No no, you don't understand, Whiney. Of course they want healthcare. They just don't want OBAMAcare. Any right-thinking American would unquestioningly saw a leg off for the sake of their chosen tribe.

Jigsaw Pizzle (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link

Still have yet to see/hear someone (eg media member, politician) explain that premiums went up mainly cause insurance co's could no longer "risk manage" by denying coverage to "risky" customers, ie those who most need health care.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link

tbf all Americans have always been told by their leaders that no better alternative to their insane system will ever even be a possibility which is bound to mess with perceptions

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:30 (seven years ago) link

the majority of americans want single payer, unfortunately not one dem is willing to fight for it (pelosi explicitly ruled it out again today)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:30 (seven years ago) link

not one dem is willing to fight for it (pelosi explicitly ruled it out again today)

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/676/cosponsors

softie (silby), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:32 (seven years ago) link

I should have said dems w/ a national presence/influence, that does have more signatories than I thought which is cool

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:34 (seven years ago) link

I mean you could argue that cosponsoring a bill going nowhere isn't "fighting for" single payer but my own rep is explicitly and vocally in favor of hashtag-medicare-for-all

softie (silby), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:34 (seven years ago) link

I think Pelosi's calculus re: single-payer may change if repeal really does go all the way through and the Dems win a House majority in 2018.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:36 (seven years ago) link

sure, maybe, or maybe someone who's willing to stump for it should run against her

softie (silby), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:37 (seven years ago) link

will have to wait for her to retire, she's got SF locked up

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:39 (seven years ago) link

don't think anyone could credibly challenge her for caucus leadership either tbh. seniority and (more importantly) effectiveness count for an awful lot. She holds the caucus together and gets the votes - more than you can say for the GOP's recent leadership.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link

true enough, but like half the caucus is on the conyers bill right now and she's still negotiating with herself

softie (silby), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link

discounting some legitimately 'econ anxious' people who may just not pay a whole lot of attention, i tend to think a frighteningly large % of that 60m are craving some indeterminate punitive action for our govt, institutions, (even corps, to some extent) and fellow citizens for deigning to treat lgbqt and POCs almost like full-fledged citizens in this century. the irrationality and concomitant 'acting out' provides some bizarre catharsis which must totally be worth it for them, at least in the short term.

and yeah, when it all goes sideways for them there's a massive, somewhat 'alt-'media push at the ready with an unwavering script about how it's always The Others' fault in just 3 easy steps. p cool.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:42 (seven years ago) link

the majority of americans want single payer, unfortunately not one dem is willing to fight for it (pelosi explicitly ruled it out again today)

^yes and the dems are, to me, pretty stupid not to just keep saying it all day, everyday. if for no other reason than to refocus/ re-center the mainstream narrative a little bit.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:45 (seven years ago) link

so fucked up how ACA causing people to not "keep their plan and their doctor" was a goddamn travesty, with the crocodile tears deluging from Rs, but slashing Medicaid and re-instituting health-history based underwriting is a tremendous victory for the American people. Fuck these assholes forever.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:46 (seven years ago) link

Because I've had a glass of wine, I watched the FOX panel headed by Chris Wallace a few minutes ago and found the mood...subdued? K-Ham thinks nothing will happen: a rickety system will emerge from conference, the president will sign it, and in about ten years we go to single payer because the American public has been "radically" changed to accept health care as a right. Charles Lane said the GOP will get an earful next week during the break and are in danger of losing the House.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:47 (seven years ago) link

single payer=SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. I think US still has too much fear of socialism for that to be a reality any time soon.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:47 (seven years ago) link

then why is Sanders the most popular politician in the country

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:56 (seven years ago) link

i got free eyeglasses last week! #mitt2020

scott seward, Thursday, 4 May 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link

socialism is def not the bugbear it used to be, what w the GOP in bed w our Cold War nemesis and European socialism more or less in tatters

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 May 2017 23:28 (seven years ago) link

Trump just praised Australia's health care system to the prime minister's face. Here's the Dems' attack ad.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 May 2017 00:20 (seven years ago) link

then why is Sanders the most popular politician in the country

what

sexualing healing (crüt), Friday, 5 May 2017 00:27 (seven years ago) link

he lost iirc

sexualing healing (crüt), Friday, 5 May 2017 00:27 (seven years ago) link

he lost iirc

― sexualing healing (crüt), Friday, 5 May 2017 00:27 (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes but he *woulda* won

s'rong, unstable (darraghmac), Friday, 5 May 2017 00:51 (seven years ago) link

even had he won, Bernie wouldn't have had coattails, so he'd've been stuck with a super-hostile congress. btw, we are speculating about an irrelevancy.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 5 May 2017 00:56 (seven years ago) link

I have never said he would have won. it was stated that socialism is scary to people, I was just noting that a self-professed "democratic socialist" is very popular on a national level

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 May 2017 01:05 (seven years ago) link

what do you think is the % of US voters who identify as socialist, or would say they're supportive of socialist principles in theory?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 5 May 2017 01:25 (seven years ago) link

or dem socialist

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 5 May 2017 01:26 (seven years ago) link

I guess my question would be, where would they be exposed to such ideas to even be quizzed on them? certainly not via any pundits, op-ed columnists, or (barring Bernie, who barely qualifies) politicians

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 May 2017 01:30 (seven years ago) link

I'm not making assumptions beyond the idea that there might be untapped potential for actual left pols to make serious gains

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 May 2017 01:31 (seven years ago) link

How many socialists/dem socialists hold natl office in US? how bout state-level?
Who needs to be exposed to an idea in order to be prejudiced against it? Not Americans! Socialism=bad just like 1+1=2 for > 1/2 of US voters I'd say. Would like to be wrong!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 5 May 2017 01:34 (seven years ago) link

I have a socialist city council representative!

softie (silby), Friday, 5 May 2017 01:42 (seven years ago) link

don't worry, patriots -- repealing kenyacare was just a cover for the big prize: scrapping dodd-frank. tax cuts!

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/05/dodd-frank-repeal/525474/

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 May 2017 01:57 (seven years ago) link

.@POTUS tells @TurnbullMalcolm "you have better healthcare than we do." It's nationalized in Australia.

— Tara Palmeri (@tarapalmeri) May 5, 2017

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 5 May 2017 01:59 (seven years ago) link

why does the new york state attorney general hate america?

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/statement-ag-schneiderman-house-passage-american-health-care-act

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 May 2017 02:02 (seven years ago) link

How many socialists/dem socialists hold natl office in US? how bout state-level?

The Dem Party is the major obstacle there; let's not deny it

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 May 2017 02:03 (seven years ago) link

I pointed out the Australian health care analogy a couple hours ago

xxpost

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 May 2017 02:05 (seven years ago) link

The word "socialist" doesn't stir Cold War reflexes among most Millennials. Perhaps once half of that cohort passes 40 (around 2025), we can have a healthcare safety net. Or it may take till half the Boomers are dead (around 2035).

behavioral sink (Sanpaku), Friday, 5 May 2017 02:52 (seven years ago) link


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