Trump, May 2017: 100 days of [unintelligible]

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I still cannot fathom how he's going to make it through 3 3/4 more years of this

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:52 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-0qe3vXgAMVRHc.jpg

i'd missed this one

mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:55 (seven years ago) link

Discussion just a bit upthread about that excerpt and his inability to recognize or process metaphor.

How many gigabyte is in trilobites (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:56 (seven years ago) link

maybe just troll him with metaphors from now on

"Mr President, some say your Administration is headed over the cliff"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:03 (seven years ago) link

"there's truth to that. it's a tremendous cliff"

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:05 (seven years ago) link

"You know, John, I've seen that cliff, it's a high one, extraordinary, really. Some people say it's treacherous. I don't. It's America, an American cliff, you know. And we're gonna make Mexico pay for it."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:06 (seven years ago) link

I've been saying this for a while. Interviewers should be setting him up for fall after fall. Ply him with metaphors, ask him questions that are complete nonsense (possibly including words and names invented from whole cloth), give him lots and lots of rope, teach him how to tie the knots and place it around his neck. Anything that doesn't seem like an overt attack, he will respond to as if he knows what he's talking about. This is such a glaring vulnerability to exploit that it's almost shocking to watch interviewers politely circumvent it over and over.

How many gigabyte is in trilobites (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:10 (seven years ago) link

yay! a way around the filibuster! you go, "conservatives"! tax cuts pay for themselves; deficits don't matter : )

Senate Republicans could simply vote as a majority to extend the budget window beyond ten years (a decade simply being a convention). The budget window could be 20 or 30 years. Then they could pass a huge tax cut for affluent people that expires, but the expiration date would lie so far in the future that it might as well be permanent.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/heres-the-republican-trick-to-make-their-tax-cuts-permanent.html

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:12 (seven years ago) link

"Mr. President, today we've seen video of citizens in Hurwafistan burning you in effigy over your position on salination rights in the Pan-African Arctic Zone. How do you respond to these demonstrations, which some are calling mollicinent?"

How many gigabyte is in trilobites (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link

I've been saying this for a while. Interviewers should be setting him up for fall after fall. Ply him with metaphors, ask him questions that are complete nonsense (possibly including words and names invented from whole cloth), give him lots and lots of rope, teach him how to tie the knots and place it around his neck. Anything that doesn't seem like an overt attack, he will respond to as if he knows what he's talking about. This is such a glaring vulnerability to exploit that it's almost shocking to watch interviewers politely circumvent it over and over.

^^^ this x 100, I'm surprised no one really figured it out during the campaign. I mean Republicans are obviously on board with his awful ideas but they always seem to try to distance themselves when he says something truly idiotic.

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link

idk it seems like Dickerson figured it out

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link

the dude was unflappable

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link

i'm truly exasperated by how fucked up the motherfucker is.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:33 (seven years ago) link

feel like we've reached a point where you could say that sentence in a crowd in any major city and everyone would know what you're talking about

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-1PMktWsAQPDMm.jpg

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:43 (seven years ago) link

O_O

20-lol pileup (WilliamC), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

Morning Joe straight up saying Trump has completely lost his mind, "my mother's had dementia for 10 years, that sounds like something she would say"

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:47 (seven years ago) link

i wonder if he was watching

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:51 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-1N0JrXsAAZDyP.jpg

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:52 (seven years ago) link

this is Ivanka fucking trump they are talking about there

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:53 (seven years ago) link

WTF !!!!!!!!!!!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:53 (seven years ago) link

his inner landscape is deeply fucked up, largely by his dad (who was a worse monster even than him, and a monster TO him, abt success and failure and winners and losers); before long he's actually going to start seeing figures no one else can see "out there", gazing accusingly in at him through the oval office windows

(the interview makes me think this is already happening tbh)

mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:55 (seven years ago) link

Morning Joe straight up saying Trump has completely lost his mind, "my mother's had dementia for 10 years, that sounds like something she would say"

― frogbs,

I loathe Scarborough but he looked as defeated as probably Barry Goldwater did when facing Nixon in '74. You knew Joe was sad because he wasn't wearing his glasses!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link

why are you watching Morning Joe

bought 2 raris, went to chili's (crüt), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

At this point if he doesn't he gets a headache

Evan, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link

bcz he reads the Natl Review, too.

which quote was MJ talking about? GDP? corners in the OO?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link

There have been rumors flying for months that Ivanka and Jared need to be around Trump to keep a protective eye on him. I wonder, given that their religion keeps them largely out of the picture over the weekend, if he's not actually being more or less sent to Mar-a-lago each weekend for safe keeping, in a safe, familiar place.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:08 (seven years ago) link

These guys sound genuinely frightened at this point.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) appeared to take a veiled shot at President Trump on Tuesday after the president backed forcing a government shutdown later in the fall.

"Our voters, the people who elected Republican majorities in both Houses and elected this president, did not vote for us in order to shut down the government. They voted for us to govern, as hard as it is," Cornyn said from the Senate floor.

Cornyn, the No. 2 Senate Republican, didn't specifically address Trump's tweet from Tuesday morning, where the president wrote that "our country needs a good 'shutdown' in September."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:16 (seven years ago) link

why are you watching Morning Joe

― bought 2 raris, went to chili's (crüt), Tuesday, May 2, 2017

cuz I don't watch porn at 6 a.m. while drinking my smoothie.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:16 (seven years ago) link

a cornucopia of potential replies...

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link

this seems like wishful thinking but idk

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-zeSLzXoAEGka2.jpg

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:24 (seven years ago) link

xpost Yeah, it's telling how mum the GOP has been post budget, even as Dem stalwarts are boasting of their wins, as if they know they're fucked and that the best way forward at all is just to ignore Trump. If Trump threatened a shutdown in a few more months I can totally see the GOP once again telling him to GTFO.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:27 (seven years ago) link

is DNC finally pumping money into this shit or are they too busy jacking each other off

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:27 (seven years ago) link

The DNC has been all over Georgia, probably at the expense of some other races

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:31 (seven years ago) link

the GOP hasn't even begun to cheat in georgia

our society has become one giant morality play. the trump family is exactly why we need a steep progressive taxation system. fuck you republicans and your voodoo economics doodoo

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link

Da Doo Doo Doo, Da Duh Duh Duh.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link

suggestions that this whole charade is basically just a blame-shifting exercise (from the Freedom Caucus to the Tuesday Group) seem about right

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/02/republicans-obamacare-repeal-votes-237871

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link

going through all this dumb shit to make your most vulnerable members even MORE vulnerable to losing in 2018? makes sense..

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:54 (seven years ago) link

and fuck you too CNN and "real" republican voters

Eight of the top 10 corn-producing states backed Trump in the 2016 election, and Trump enjoyed a wealth of support from real [rural?] voters. Hemseath did not say that he regretted his vote for Trump, but acknowledged he could eventually. "That is a possibility," the Iowa farmer said when asked whether the NAFTA changes could cause him to regret his vote for Trump. "But when you vote, it is a much bigger picture than that. It is not a one-issue vote."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/02/politics/trump-nafta-farmers/

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link

I appreciate that the DNC is finally giving a shit about at least some part of Georgia but it'd be cool if they started paying attention to rural black communities down here and not just affluent suburbs

bought 2 raris, went to chili's (crüt), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link

going through all this dumb shit to make your most vulnerable members even MORE vulnerable to losing in 2018?

I guess the Freedom Caucus dream is that these Tuesday Group guys get primaried/lose their seats to more conservative members? A kind of party purge via election. Seems unlikely to me but then these are people that tend to operate in a fact-free environment.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link

they are operating in a voter-roll purge system, and maybe presume they can pack congress with more 'taxed-enough-already' jackasses

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:03 (seven years ago) link

and fuck you too CNN and "real" republican voters

Eight of the top 10 corn-producing states backed Trump in the 2016 election, and Trump enjoyed a wealth of support from real [rural?] voters. Hemseath did not say that he regretted his vote for Trump, but acknowledged he could eventually. "That is a possibility," the Iowa farmer said when asked whether the NAFTA changes could cause him to regret his vote for Trump. "But when you vote, it is a much bigger picture than that. It is not a one-issue vote."

the problem is that if I were a Trump voter I'd get sick of being asked SO WHEN ARE YOU REGRETTING YOUR VOTE? NOW? NOW? so why tell the truth?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link

I was thinking that Trump's ineffectiveness may insulate him from blowback among his voters as well - ie, "if he's so terrible, how come things are basically still okay?"

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link

logic that is likely to break down at crisis points. But let's all bear in mind how long it took Dubya's post-9/11 numbers to tumble. It didn't really happen until Katrina, and then the financial meltdown in 2008.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link

But "still okay" implies things were fine under Obama, and they can't say that.

nickn, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link


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