jonathan demme!

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I can't think of another director with such a cool relationship to cool music. I mean:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_9Vlh1OtB8

Soundtrack to Married to the Mob is super hip, too.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:53 (seven years ago) link

omg i didn't realize he directed that!

surm, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:53 (seven years ago) link

My rockcrit friends will immortalize him, deservedly, for Stop Making Sense. But until 1993 Jonathan Demme skipped from strength to strength; he even seemed to learn from Swing Shift; his first mainstream Hollywood debacle. Caged Heat through The Silence of the Lambs is an impressive streak.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z8NSqlaTMM

sister carol in the closing credits of wild thing, quintessential american new wave movie -- need to rewatch

mark s, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link

weird I was just talking about Demme cuz I caught Swing Shift (underrated!) and had also happened upon that stupid Documentary Now episode that parodies Stop Making Sense really poorly (fuckin Armisen, so sick of that guy)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link

Christine Lahti was a joy in SS. Melanie Griffith has never been better than in SW. He knew how to work with actresses.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

wow this sucks, he was fucking excellent. and yeah his soundtracks were the bomb; the best use of Bizarre Love Triangle is in
Married To The Mob in the hairdresser's.

piscesx, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

YES Alfred

surm, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link

also the alleged use of the fall's hip priest in silence of the lambs -- to this day i have never spotted it

mark s, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:00 (seven years ago) link

and Colin Newman!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link

The Feelies in SW

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link

he was a really excellent filmmaker. i always admired the atmosphere he gets from SOtL without going OTT into banal gloomy cinematography or anything. there's a pretty singular creepy vibe to the whole movie from the beginning that is hard to pin down but i think has a lot to do with how he frames actors within the surrounding spaces and a shot as simple as Jodie Foster training or exercising at the beginning or whatever it was is full of dread. it's impressive bc there are a lot of guys who identify as horror filmmakers who are unable to conjure up anything nearly as effective and usually strain hard for effect.

nomar, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link

or Foster's defeated walk down the airport terminal at the end

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link

i remember that shot when she gets a call from lecter at the end and while she speaks with him, she looks off towards Scott Glenn's character while he's talking to some other people, and there's this sense that she's looking for help but it's not coming and in fact it's going the other way. it's a quick moment, almost a throwaway, but it really makes the scene for me.

nomar, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:08 (seven years ago) link

I got the sense that like Lecter the Scott Glenn character had his own sado/voyeur tendencies, thanks to the way he threw Clarice into those awful scenarios

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:11 (seven years ago) link

jd someone with a real eye for (gendered) detail when it came to dress, decor, the subtle background you don't always even have time to see clearly -- which is why he was such a good director of sotl, as it's so key to the story, clarice spotting stuff her male colleagues overlook

mark s, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:12 (seven years ago) link

in the book, she's playing off her two male mentors against one another -- learning different things from each

mark s, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:13 (seven years ago) link

yeah i think it was p quietly a movie about male figures of power. i think it was discussed a lot at the time actually but i think in the wake of lectermania and that character becoming the most important one, that element was lost a bit in the discourse. i mean i don't have a problem w/Hopkins in the role or the conception of the role but I think Foster does such a great job and Demme is sympathetic to her character's ambition and also what roadblocks she faces.

nomar, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:15 (seven years ago) link

Swing Shift as is plays just fine, and screening soon in NYC.

https://quadcinema.com/film/swing-shift/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:16 (seven years ago) link

also the alleged use of the fall's hip priest in silence of the lambs -- to this day i have never spotted it

― mark s, Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:00 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's the final scene, it's heard for a long time but very faintly. buffalo bill answers the door to clarice and it is playing quietly in his basement in the background, then they end up in the basement and its heard very indistinctly and echoey iirc

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:16 (seven years ago) link

yeah i think it was p quietly a movie about male figures of power. i think it was discussed a lot at the time actually but i think in the wake of lectermania and that character becoming the most important one, that element was lost a bit in the discourse. i mean i don't have a problem w/Hopkins in the role or the conception of the role but I think Foster does such a great job and Demme is sympathetic to her character's ambition and also what roadblocks she faces.

― nomar, Wednesday, April 26, 2017

movie very much part of the fabric of the Thomas-Hill hearings; it seemed more obvious when out on video the following spring.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link

I never completely bought into Lambs bcz of the friggin' Hopkins camping, but it's OK.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:18 (seven years ago) link

yes he's definitely the problem in it -- tho the character is unplayable i think, it's such a device

mark s, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link

^^^otm

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:21 (seven years ago) link

Brian Cox came close but I can't see him handling the laff lines

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link

it bothers me that it's a good movie w an irritatingly ludicrous character at its center

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link

I'm not sentimental enough to think this increases my odds of watching Justin Timberlake + the Tennessee Kids.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link

the best Lecter is probably Mikkelsen (funnier, smarter, less predictable in his sinister aspects) but I think Hopkins works, most of the time. Some of the lasciviousness is OTT, i think...some of his one liners are basically sick dad jokes.

nomar, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link

but Caged Heat, yes

xp

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:24 (seven years ago) link

I think of the ceremony in Rachel Getting Married and at the time I read a couple snarky things dismissing its hipster cachet, but it's obvious from the way it follows a sequence of events and from how Demme shot similar scenes in other movies that this kind of temporary bliss constitutes fragments shorn up against his characters' ruins (Debra Winger's last scene confirms this).

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:24 (seven years ago) link

Nice post from Robyn H

https://twitter.com/RobynHitchcock/status/857259489510252545

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link

RIP.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BWwchFufu4A/TcOlcalGIqI/AAAAAAAAAkQ/0b8uRpXQ7HM/s1600/Citizens-Band-Paul-Le-Mat-Candy-Clark-Roberts-Blossom.png

Citizens Band comes recommended through the SW!

Ludo, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

roundup

https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/jonathan-demme-1944-2017

"his final work as director, an episode of Gina Prince-Bythewood’s Fox drama Shots Fired, airs, in an eerie coincidence, tonight.”

http://theplaylist.net/oscar-winning-silence-lambs-director-jonathan-demme-dies-age-73-20170426/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 17:04 (seven years ago) link

i was just watching clips of "rachel getting married" a couple of days ago

marcos, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link

i think it's possible i saw this Sarandon/Walken Vonnegut adap on PBS in '82

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083325/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link

hip priest is during the cellar scenes of sotl yes -- not even that hard to hear now i'm listening out for it, suspect that i was so on edge at the action i'd stopped listening out for it previous times i watched

mark s, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link

fwiw I think Philadelphia (which I otherwise don't get much from) and Manchurian 2.0 (best appreciated as a cover version) are two of the top Denzel Washington performances.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link

Demme introducing the Timberlake film in February

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuS48xA3T98&feature=youtu.be

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

what the hey

try Keith Uhlich's Twitter

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS7s6YkVKEI

to pimp a barfly (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link

anyone watch his "Shots Fired" episode last night?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 April 2017 12:04 (seven years ago) link

not in my region, but i did rewatch lambs and something wild last night -- among other things noticing a whole raft of the same excellent minor character actors used in both

mark s, Thursday, 27 April 2017 12:25 (seven years ago) link

“In lieu of flowers, [Jonathan Demme's] family has asked that donations be made to Americans For Immigrant Justice"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 April 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJjxVf7X0kM

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 April 2017 14:30 (seven years ago) link

he was a really excellent filmmaker. i always admired the atmosphere he gets from SOtL without going OTT into banal gloomy cinematography or anything. there's a pretty singular creepy vibe to the whole movie from the beginning that is hard to pin down but i think has a lot to do with how he frames actors within the surrounding spaces and a shot as simple as Jodie Foster training or exercising at the beginning or whatever it was is full of dread. it's impressive bc there are a lot of guys who identify as horror filmmakers who are unable to conjure up anything nearly as effective and usually strain hard for effect.

I ... actually agree with this.

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 April 2017 17:43 (seven years ago) link

Howard Shore goes a long way toward making a lot of the movie work too.

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 April 2017 17:44 (seven years ago) link

I I wrote something.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 April 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link

this 1986 comedy stars Jeff Bridges as Charlie,

Umm

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 27 April 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link


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