"Just another day in paradise, okay?" April 2017 President Trump and oppo dump thread

If you make voting compulsory you have to provide everyone a reasonable chance of actually being able to cast a vote, otherwise you get sued. Similar to the health insurance mandate. This would cost states and/or the fed govt approximately Big Bucks and a massive overhaul of the entire system, for the better in every way (weekend voting, relaxation of ID requirements, etc) but our country has demonstrated that it's incapable of doing big things anymore so, you know, how many angels can fit on the head of a pin

you can vote over an extended time period by mail in most states, right?... lemme guess, the problem is... disenfranchises transients ?

i don't know, ianal, but i imagine that to survive court challenges you'd need every state to have uniform procedures and you know, good luck w/that

Mandatory voting will still be subject to "prove you haven't already voted", though - the bullshit won't go away as long as it has a hook to hang on.

My understanding of Australia is that most people are pretty happy and carefree, and there's always one person who cares enough for everything, who cares entirely too much - this understanding come to me from Neighbours and Home & Away, which I have only just now reconsidered as pro-suffrage propaganda.

(this is not my actual understanding of Australia, calm down sic)

That saiiiid, while I am fond of a lot of Australians, didn't you have Trump's John the Baptist as your previous Prime Minister?

good mourning!

where's the tax returns?

I think you could sell mandatory voting to republicans if you promised not to stop their voter suppression efforts, so they can make it hard as possible for minorities to vote, then shake em down for fines/prison labour

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/848857910297980928

Never really seen what the problem was with getting the questions early. Thought that was just better research since the end result is just to make a coherent argument rather than know a single factual answer.
& am surprised by the epistemology of somebody getting stuck on that. But that is a weird epistemology anyway, & not sure it's coherent at the best of times.

Just asking!

Yeah, it's strange that people (our president) seem to think she got the answers to the debate questions, as if there are correct answers

I think you could sell mandatory voting to republicans if you promised not to stop their voter suppression efforts, so they can make it hard as possible for minorities to vote, then shake em down for fines/prison labour

I'm glad someone made this argument. We already have so many things that criminalize both poverty and being not-white. We don't need more of them.

Also, that information was released through Podesta hacks. So he is still pushing Russian intel.

mandatory voting will never happen, and tbh instituting it while we still vote on tuesdays w/o a holiday would end up penalizing all the working folks that feel like they can't skip out to vote right now

move all elections to saturday. this is something that could be advocated for at the state level as well as at the federal level, and would probably get bipartisan support as it appears to be pretty innocuous and common-sensical on the face

(nb that probably also means that it might not be terribly effective at increasing voter turnout, esp since many service-economy voters are still working saturday, but it would at least be a step in the right direction. like, i can't see many downsides)

Surely the problem with the debate questions was that it gave Hillary an unfair advantage over Bernie, no?

The tweet is about 'answers'.

"True or False: Lead was found in the water in Flint, MI"

http://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2016/11/08/104090081-still.600x400.jpg

xpost: sure, but I was responding to: "Never really seen what the problem was with getting the questions early"

Feels so good to know that the pettiest person of whom I have any personal awareness is still the president. Feels reeeeeeeal good.

trump tweeting about dumb stuff is good, shows how unfocused and incompetent they are

personally i think it would be great if we are sitting here in 2019 and he is still tweeting about hillary and the debate

if he's still in office there is a 100% chance he will be

(this is not my actual understanding of Australia, calm down sic)

I'm that person that cares entirely too much

tbf to our right-wing overlords, they quickly realised Abbott was such a swivel-eyed loon that they knifed him three days short of his second anniversary, and replaced him with someone literally the entire party and voters hate instead

esp since many service-economy voters are still working saturday

And would probably have to work on a federal holiday too!

xpost: sure, but I was responding to: "Never really seen what the problem was with getting the questions early"

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Oh, sorry ;)

But yeah, the assumption was that telling Clinton a debate in Flint would have a question about Flint fatally undermined the Sanders campaign. Which is nonsense, but it was kinda stupid thing to do anyway.

it's a symptom of the panic/entitlement of the ClintonIncDNC operation

one drop in a large bucket

yeah but c'mon that is not why Trump keeps circling back to it

so is benedict donald going to hire tiffany? it's kind of bullshit he hasn't yet, if you ask me

trump doesn't remember tiffany exists most of the time tbf

he still seems to have it out for Marla Maples and by extension Tiffany

imagine being the child donald trump is embarrassed by - what a horrifying psychic burden to carry every day

https://twitter.com/tomkludt/status/848920136623030272

Take it easy, Bill Shine

an eagles where everyone is don or glenn, what a fucking nightmare

well, yeah

And guitar player Joe Walsh is replaced by deranged former congressman Joe Walsh

So Trump has seriously spent the last 3 hours watching FOX News? What does the President do anyway?

ilx is perhaps the only place on the internet where that tweet could spawn a heated 1000-post debate over which member of fox personnel corresponds to which member of the eagles

So Trump has seriously spent the last 3 hours watching FOX News? What does the President do anyway?

you just answered your own question

(calling shoe smith as timothy b. schmidt btw)

btw the "@FBI" in his latest tweet is hilarious to me

uh, shep smith xp to self

btw the "@FBI" in his latest tweet is hilarious to me

if only there was some way the president of the united states could easily reach the federal bureau of investigation

spain is a fake country! "Alexander Torshin, deputy governor of the Central Bank of Russia and investigated in Spain for money laundering, has infiltrated the US president’s circle."

http://elpais.com/elpais/2017/03/31/inenglish/1490984556_409827.amp.html

Prez at -16 on Rasmussen poll, including now 58% that voted disapprove

all is going according to trump's 6D-chess plan

Feinstein and Bennet finally both publicly on-board for filibuster of Gorsuch

scott adams just simultaneously microwaved three bags of popcorn in celebration

Hm:

White House lawyers last month learned that the former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

The pattern of Rice's requests was discovered in a National Security Council review of the government's policy on "unmasking" the identities of individuals in the U.S. who are not targets of electronic eavesdropping, but whose communications are collected incidentally. Normally those names are redacted from summaries of monitored conversations and appear in reports as something like "U.S. Person One."

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-03/top-obama-adviser-sought-names-of-trump-associates-in-intel

Rice's requests to unmask the names of Trump transition officials does not vindicate Trump's own tweets from March 4 in which he accused Obama of illegally tapping Trump Tower. There remains no evidence to support that claim.

But Rice's multiple requests to learn the identities of Trump officials discussed in intelligence reports during the transition period does highlight a longstanding concern for civil liberties advocates about U.S. surveillance programs. The standard for senior officials to learn the names of U.S. persons incidentally collected is that it must have some foreign intelligence value, a standard that can apply to almost anything. This suggests Rice's unmasking requests were likely within the law.

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