2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

some weird berkeley free speech thing?

Ask the guy for his fucking Sharpie in the name of free speech plz.

he forgot "bitches"

"Sen. Obama holds up his original opposition to the war on the campaign trail, but he didn't start working aggressively to end the war until he started running for president*. So when he had a chance to act on his speech, he chose silence instead," Clinton told an audience at George Washington University.

*vomits blood of murdered children*

t he didn't start working aggressively to end the war until he started running for president

she's one to talk eh

seriously this election has made me hate the Clintons more than I perviously thought possible

lolz Bubba "rebutting" Sinbad re: Kosovo trip

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Indeed. I was so happy at the start of this campaign - 'two candidates I would vote for!'

But all this makes me question not just Clinton, but half of the Democratic Party too.

I'm only a "democrat" for the purposes of primary voting. If I lived somewhere with open primaries, I'd never declare party affiliation.

Tracy Morgan on SNL responding to Tina Fey's Hillary endorsement 3 weeks ago: "Bitch may be the new black, but black is the new president, bitch."

-- Johnny Fever, Saturday, March 15, 2008 6:23 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

SNL hates youtube:

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/play.shtml?mea=229454

Hey, Newshour's on!

If this still has the same full head of steam on Monday as it did on Friday, then I'll be worried. Joe Public forgets about politics on the weekend, though.

-- Johnny Fever, Saturday, March 15, 2008 7:15 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

obama's big speech on wright and the role of race in the campaign going on soon

Link to live stream please?

Shakey, I wasn't aware that CNN/Opinion Research Corporation polls were now binding plebiscites.

i can't watch it as i'm at work but there should be a streaming link @ cnn.com front page

Found one, there's a shit-ton of American flags and they're waiting.

Wow, dude filling "airtime" on the cnn stream is sooooooo awful.

drudge has the prepared text of the speech up:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashos.htm

it's on

lol.

well, I'd love to audit his constitutional law class.

that drudge text is really good.

Faulkner quote! I LOVE YOU OBAMA!!!!!

That one's knocked out of the park. I'm so ready for that guy to lead this country.

lol, he bit a WJC line

It's interesting watching the Corner flail a bit on the speech. Even Lopez only admits to seeing 'nits,' which figures (in that they're trying to overblow them).

Faulkner quote!

"I'm hard to get, Steve. All you have to do is ask me."

This isn't going away, but this is a damn fine attempt at damage control.

"I'm hard to get, Steve. All you have to do is ask me."

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(he helped write the screenplay/it was on tv the other night)

oh is that Big Sleep reference? okay gotcha

To Have and Have Not

where will Obama "lead" us? No one has a clue. (and I voted for him)

obama will lead us through the stargate, duh

Damn, this is so good.

I think he knocked that one out of the park

The Corner looks flummoxed:

Well there is something honest about that. To be disloyal would be wrong, because it's hard to believe Obama hasn't known for quite a while what Wright was all about. Talking about "bitterness," he's excusing Wright for his extremes ... and he's saying, White folks, meet 'the black community.' We're part of America too, just like my white grandmother who was afraid of black men walking on the street. We're America, and we're coming together through me.
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He's good. And Hillary Clinton saw it coming ... why she's wisely said that a speech isn't an achievement. If "white guilt" votes, Obama just won the nomination. The election is another thing, because Wright is still YouTubed and there is still the 3 A.M. phone call you want McCain, if any of those running, answering.

is there a stream of this shit that fucking works

fuck cnn

here's an entire you tube of the speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwj0gLriTnk

nice try

wow that speech

WTF?

The strange thing about this speech is how much better it reads than it sounds. Obama’s speeches are usually the other way around: as written they’re cringe-inducing piles of painfully meaningless platitudes, but Obama gives them passion and cadence and makes them sound great. This speech as written is pretty deft and intelligent; it’s serious and interesting and is about the most effective way available to him to deal with the Wright mess, though it’s still unsuccessful in the end. But as delivered it is amazingly bloodless and dull; part moral hectoring part awkward defensiveness.

eh he def went for a more sober than usual tone - it seemed totally appropriate

Afred, is that from the Corner?

Yup.

Reactions are mixed (Goldberg: "It had some lovely moments and he came across as a remarkably classy and decent guy"; meanwhile K-Lo knows in her heart that only guilty white liberals could feel touched by this piece of oratory).

i'm not down with "israel's not the problem, radical islam is!"
also not down with "welfare made black people's problems worse"

i guess dude's got to play that game, though

regardless of what's actually in his head about such issues

let the gross simplifications commence!

i'm not down with "israel's not the problem, radical islam is!"
also not down with "welfare made black people's problems worse"

I guess I'm that much closer to not casting my meaningless November vote.