2008 Primaries Thread

I WILL NOT VOTE IF OBAMA GETS NOMINATED. HOW CAN AMERICA PUT AN INEXPERIENCE CANIDATE TO RUN THE COUNTRY? HE SEEMS LIKE A NICE GUY BUT I DON’T HAVE CONFIDENT THAT HE CAN RUN THE COUNTRY. HE WILL BECOME THE PUPPETS OF KENNEDY!

Comment by I DON'T BELIEVE - February 4, 2008 at 9:23 pm

so, like, any idea when results will start coming in?

Pretty late, I would say. Not sure about other states, but in NY the polls are open until 9 p.m. I guess they'll have a lot of early East Coast numbers right after 9 but it probably depends on how close the races are.

+13 GMT is the last possible time it is Feb 5th anywhere, not sure about that. Dems abroad have their own delegates to the convention (for the first time this year, they had non-voting ones last time). Not sure on the 5-12th thing, maybe that is for postal or email votes rather than in person events. Doesn't seem to be one for Dublin.

I think GA is first candidate for results, polls close at 7pm there, I think.

Alex Cockburn has suggested that the GOP won't mind at all if Billary gets to preside over "losing Iraq," recession, etc. hence the shrugging over McCain.

Alabama & Georgia close at 7 ET, a slew at 8 (NJ, CT, Illinois, Mass, Missouri, Tenn etc).

the GOP won't mind at all if Billary gets to preside over "losing Iraq," recession, etc. hence the shrugging over McCain.

That might be true, but it's a foolhardy strategy given an unpredictable future. Next pres has some tough shit to deal with, no doubt, but who knows what opportunities he/she will have to look like a great American hero.

so did I hear -- on the BBC? -- that the Obama camp is hoping the day's results bring them no less than 100 delegates fewer than Clinton?

Makes sense. Given HRC's institutional advantages and Obama's frantic race to introduce himself to voters in all these Super Tuesday states, they think a 60/40 split today (favoring HRC) is a win for them. Plus, it keeps their narrative going that Obama's gaining momentum, setting him up for bigger things in the March primaries.

zogby/reuters have obama running with CA at 49%, which is probably BS, but still. i hope polls like this don't have the opposite effect: leading people to stay home because they think he's already won.

my wife said that video was so bad it made her almost want to NOT vote for Obama. I was like, "well it's not like HE made it". Fucking Black Eyed Peas. The best part of that video is seeing Matthew Fox strumming his guitar horribly. Oh for Andy Samberg to parody this; curse you, strike!

I e-mailed "Michelle Obama" and told "her" that I thought the video was a liability.

I'm glad they have voting delegates this time, it'd be just too depressing if they didn't! (I changed residence too recently to get absentee ballot in time.) And there is one for Dublin actually, it's at a pub near where I catch the bus. I voted online but I might drop by after work and see if they need any volunteers later.

A friend of mine who's a big Obama supporter sent me a link to that video, and given the comments here, I'm glad I didn't click the link....

Fucking Black Eyed Peas. The best part of that video is seeing Matthew Fox strumming his guitar horribly.

Suddenly I am so so glad I have not watched this video.

I don't see videos, so instead I read articles about Obama playing footsie with the nuke industry and being in General Dynamics' pocket to make me almost not vote for him.

I e-mailed "Michelle Obama" and told "her" that I thought the video was a liability.

Oh come on, we're in the minority here. I don't know if you've heard, but the Black Eyed Peas have sold something like 20 million albums.

14-year-olds don't vote, Jaymc

Where is the love?

http://www.drudgereport.com/hrce.jpg

Oh, Drudge...

un_chien_andalou.jpg

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/homepage/hp2-5-07a.jpg

^^this picture makes mccain look like he just stepped out of a wheelchair for the first time in years, and the crowds are helping him walk

LOL

Obama must've laid hands on him!

no no he rubbed Obama's head.

Doing Penance [Mark Krikorian]

Given the likely results today, tomorrow begins a period of penitence, prayer, and fasting — a five-year period for conservatives and Republicans to reflect on our pride, envy, anger, sloth, covetousness, gluttony, and lust. McCain-Clinton is a curse we've brought upon ourselves, both because of departure from our principles and because of failure to adapt the application of our principles to today's conditions. Honestly, I don't think we deserve to win this time.

lol

Ah, Krikorian. Is there no beginning to his insight?

does anybody know why in hell Maxine Waters endorsed Rodham? I thought she had more brains.

Is there no beginning to his insight?

http://1heckofaguy.com/wp-content/photos/goldwater1964poster.jpg

I feel better already.

Clinton took just nine seconds behind a closed curtain to cast her vote in New York's Democratic presidential primary.

Was there no one else one the ballot besides presidential candidates? I had to vote for like 15 different judges, plus county clerk, water reclamation commissioner, etc.

There was nothing else on the Brooklyn ballot. Except you could also vote for delegates individually, instead of just choosing the candidates' name, which was confusing (and unprecedented, I think).

I voted for both Obama and his delegates.

even if there were multiple races, if you're voting a straight dem line, you can do it in seconds - we have the old lever machines

i guess this is the primary, rite, but still, presumably hrc knows who she's voting for

Morbs, were you able to write in LaRouche?

NEVER DUN THAT

I only had a presidential candidate to vote for. Arkansas will run another primary in May for all the statewide races.

as an independent I couldn't vote in the primary last week; it took longer to park than to vote.

oh that is Herbie Hancock, isn't it. he doesn't suck.

DUDE, WHERE'S MY PARTY? OH, YEAH, I ASKED MYSELF THIS OVER A YEAR AGO WHEN I FINALLY DECIDED TO SWITCH TO THE CONSTITUTION PARTY.

One of these years the Constitution party will manage 5 percent for itself, et al.

i guess this is the primary, rite, but still, presumably hrc knows who she's voting for

-- gabbneb, Tuesday, February 5, 2008 10:52 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I knew I was voting for, too, since I brought in a notebook where I'd copied down the Chicago Bar Association's recommendations for qualified judges. I still had to vote for:

1. President
2. Senator (Durbin running unopposed)
3. Congressman (Rahm Emanuel running unopposed)
4. Delegates (vote for 6)
5. Alternate Delegate
6. State Senator
7. State Representative
8. Metropolitan Water Reclamation District Commissioners (vote for 3)
9. State's Attorney
10. Clerk of the Circuit Court
11. Recorder of Deeds
12. Board of Review
13. Supreme Court Judge
14. Appellate Court Judges (2 vacancies)
15. Circuit Court Judges (9 vacancies)
16. Subcircuit Judges (3 vacancies)
17. Ward Committeeman
18. Referendum Question

And then check my ballot to make sure I hadn't made any mistakes.

But maybe Chicago's elections are just unusually comprehensive.

I think there was only one button on my ballot here in NJ, for the Presidential candidate. I didn't see separate buttons for delegates. Maybe I screwed up though.

I have never had to vote for a list that long in any election, primary or general

so basically, lol, Chicago

Yeah, voting for judges is pretty dumb. In the races where more than one candidate was considered "qualified" by the Chicago Bar Association, I voted for the woman. If there weren't any women, I picked whatever name sounded better.

^why I skip offices all the time^

we vote for judges but not Ward Committeemen

we've got city council, i guess

I think in the vast majority of cases, the office of ward committeeman is occupied by the ward's alderman.

how quaint

Or maybe not:
http://chicagoist.com/2007/02/26/ask_chicagoist_whats_a_ward_committeeman.php

basically what we need to remember is that chicago is really fucked up