"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

They really need an Irish character for season 6.

xpost Roz - but it's more cruelly ironic for them to actually detonate the bomb AND have it screw themselves over, since then they're more directly causing their fate! (unless they want to carry the bomb over into season 6, which i doubt they will do)

The Radzinski thing is pretty funny since we already know he's going to kill himself after pushing the Hatch button for years, so the more evil he is, it's just gravy

is Radzinski supposedly the one who made the glow-in-the-dark hatch map on the bomb blast doors?

but i still feel like they are wasting tons of time telling us things we already know

I hate when they write in "heavy" "important" scenes of characters "revealing" things the audience already knows (but the other character doesn't)

ie Widmore telling Daniel he sank the fake plane

fast-forward that shit, Lost

ya. i thought this exchange was pretty funny tho:

Penny: Your son is Benjamin Linus?!
Eloise: Good lord, no! (dramatic pause) My son is... Daniel Faraday.
Penny's face: right okay.

is Radzinski supposedly the one who made the glow-in-the-dark hatch map on the bomb blast doors?

yup

nhex, hmm yeah i guess it could go both ways. from next week's promo it seems like jack and kate have a discussion on whether they should detonate the bomb or not.

i hope we see radzinsky blow his brains out. what an asshole.

impressed that Des was able to beat the crap out of Ben before going to hospital

i'd like to see more resentment from Juliet and James towards the o6 people for wrecking their shit altho i guess they can all just blame it on Sayid wherever he is

what happened? i am confused.
they said that not pushing the button caused 815 to crash - but wouldn't that have blown up the hatch before they ever found it/des? or when they crashed, did they also go back in time to when the hatch was still there?

what I don't get is how the "possibility" of none of seasons 1-4 ever happening is a possibility. like how does that even work, they suddenly wake up and are getting off the flight in la

i would be cool with that as long as when they got LA everyone was wearing Others rags living in tents and on TV there was a statue of President Smokemonster

forget the 'on TV' bit

xxp - yeah i don't think it can but if it does, it'll be interesting to see how the writers will try to convince us that it is possible. the only way it will happen is by paradox or introducing an alternate universe theory.

tehresa, 815 crashed the day Des *almost* didn't get to push the button because he was out chasing Kelvin, that's what they meant by failing to push the button.

they ruled out alternate/parallel universes thankfully

they also said that we weren't going to see dharma or paradoxes. :/

i love the reversal of the grandfather paradox in this ep btw - instead of going back in time to kill your grandfather, get killed by your mom!

jeez dudes... put yourselves in radzinski's shoes... would you act any different??

enjoyed this ep particularly daniels crazy nuke plan and the shot by mom reveal - both made me go OMG AWZOM

why is radzinski so angry all the time - dude needs to chillll

bald dudes be angry

it's not like he's pure evil though, he's just dickish

the dickish types are the worst though. pure evil bastards have style.

so why does Daniel have an american accent?

His accent... is not exactly his primary objective

lol. and why is his last name faraday?

His name is Daniel Faraday because his mom named him after himself, duh.

I liked this episode but am scared that it's going to mean more of a focus on the Jack/Kate group again, which pisses me off. That and semi-resolving the Desmond situation means no Desmond for now, Faraday is dead, and the "new" group running for the jungle will probably get focus.

i'm confused as to why his mom was still on the island in '77. how old is farrydaye? how old was ellie in 1954? wouldn't she have recognized him from the bomb burying business?

Yeah, that's a good point. I'm assuming Daniel was born ca. 1970, since he's a professor at Oxford in 1996, and Ellie, who looked to be about 18 in 1954, could conceivably have been in her mid-30s when she gave birth to him.

maybe shes time traveling

and more importantly, when did chuck widmore put his seed inside of her?

(she was a lot hotter in the 50s)

yeah the island obviously doesn't do much for the skin, whatever about the crippled legs/memory loss/cancer

maybe this has been said before but i also don't get how miles looks so old for someone who is like 30.

lol that's cause ken leung is like 40.

i mean, totally digging the salt & pepper hair and all, it just seems that being psychic has aged miles quite a bit.

dude just needs some piercings.

My thinking is that the bomb is still there in 2004, and turning the failsafe key is what finally detonates it.

I don't get why Daniel's entire mission, as guided by his parents for his entire life, was to go back to 1977 and get killed. Assuming he's actually dead, what higher purpose does that serve? I suppose we'll find out next week.

I really liked this weeks - it feels like the whole thing is finally actually moving forward. They only have four hours to stop the explosion! Sawyer is absolutely fucked! Etc etc.

This episode had so many examples of conversations that started in one location, inexplicably stopped, and then picked up again in another location.

"Earlier when we were at the Orchid, you said 'x'. What did you mean by that?"

or

"Back when we were in LA, you said 'x'. Why did you say that?"

This drives me insane.

Assuming he's actually dead - pretty massive assumption, at least when you consider "dead" dead people are on this show most of the time.

*consider how "dead" dead people..

Assuming he's actually dead, what higher purpose does that serve?

Widmore so loved the island that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

no way is Dan dead. altho this seems so obvious that ending the episode on this "bombshell" is pretty tedious - kid ben being shot had much more impact, for me at least.

i thought they were hinting at Kate getting killed off when Dan said "any one of us could die" and then Jack looked at Kate worriedly, but that also seems dumb

We should be so lucky.

Lucky lucky lucky.

Holding out hope for a Jack/Kate murder-suicide.

I could imagine Jack or Kate being killed off.

i don't want jack to die

Jack won't die because there is too much stuff with Christian that is unresolved, whereas Kate is only really back to find out about Claire, and it's not like Jack (aka Claire's brother!) couldn't do that himself. Otherwise, Kate really has nothing left to do other than be a monkey wrench in the Sawyer-Juliet relationship.

The show (and the creators in interviews) has been a lot more blatant about pegging Kate as a pretty selfish and insufferable woman - bringing Claire off the island (assuming she's alive/possessed and not just dead) would actually finally give her a real redemption arc. Not to mention, if they give Claire a real helicopter rescue it would actually justify Charlie's death way back in season 3.

Weirdly enough Jack doesn't really care about Claire at all despite the familial connection (then again it's not like he's had a great relationship with his own family), but he seemed to completely switch over to the Locke/herald of the island's destiny role and has REALLY become "the guy who doesn't ask obvious questions, let's just do what the island wants". Looks like he's going to doubt it or turn against it next week by trying to undo everything.

Charlie Pace was the bass player for the rock band Gay Dad Drive Shaft.