"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

psyched for tonight's

I tuned in when they were rolling Des in on a gurney. Can someone tell me what, if anything, happened in the couple of minutes before that (at the very beginning of the episode)?

"previously on lost" happened

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YOUR MOTHER IS AN OTHER

i knew widmore was the daddie

I suspected.

we ALL called that one!

moral of season 5: going back in time means people getting their asses shot

really enjoyed this one, especially Daniel laying it all out there with the casuality loop

Except the past is the present. Even though I know that the whole time, I still get confused at times.

Just think about that chalkboard drawing in Back to the Future and you'll be fine.

slightly disappointing

otm. next week looks promising, but i still feel like they are wasting tons of time telling us things we already know. still, this was better than the past few.

aw RIP twitchy.

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they're not going to succeed in detonating that bomb.

GREAT 100th episode btw

of course they are TOTALLY going to succeed, it will cause the so-called incident and blow the main characters back to the present. fate!

(much like Desmond trying to buck fate at the end of S2 by NOT pushing the button and causing the hatch to blow up. symmetry!)

1. the others have a cure for gun wounds to the chest. will they use it?
2. detonating the bomb is a really stupid idea. it would presumably kill ALL of the people on the island, which would be worse than anything that's happened to them. not even going into the paradoxes involved.

i thought detonating the bomb means they DON'T cause the incident?

that's Faraday's logic, but going by the show's track record of people trying to do the "right thing" and having it accomplish exactly what they didn't want to happen...

exactly. which means they'll try but won't succeed at detonating the bomb, but in trying they'll cause the huge release of energy at the Swan site (ie the incident) and thus not negating seasons 1-4.

seriously lol @ the writers going "we don't like paradoxes" last season.

1. the others have a cure for gun wounds to the chest. will they use it?

Faraday will lose his innocence forever.

not a great ep but got better as it went along. radzinski really is a fucking annoying jerk. somebody needs to knife him while he's in the middle of his WoW marathon.

also have to lol at Lost's vision of Britain, where everybody (except Charlie's "Meet the Sean Beans" family) is a relative of Queen Victoria and speaks in Hank Kingsley's "British" accent.

They really need an Irish character for season 6.

xpost Roz - but it's more cruelly ironic for them to actually detonate the bomb AND have it screw themselves over, since then they're more directly causing their fate! (unless they want to carry the bomb over into season 6, which i doubt they will do)

The Radzinski thing is pretty funny since we already know he's going to kill himself after pushing the Hatch button for years, so the more evil he is, it's just gravy

is Radzinski supposedly the one who made the glow-in-the-dark hatch map on the bomb blast doors?

but i still feel like they are wasting tons of time telling us things we already know

I hate when they write in "heavy" "important" scenes of characters "revealing" things the audience already knows (but the other character doesn't)

ie Widmore telling Daniel he sank the fake plane

fast-forward that shit, Lost

ya. i thought this exchange was pretty funny tho:

Penny: Your son is Benjamin Linus?!
Eloise: Good lord, no! (dramatic pause) My son is... Daniel Faraday.
Penny's face: right okay.

is Radzinski supposedly the one who made the glow-in-the-dark hatch map on the bomb blast doors?

yup

nhex, hmm yeah i guess it could go both ways. from next week's promo it seems like jack and kate have a discussion on whether they should detonate the bomb or not.

i hope we see radzinsky blow his brains out. what an asshole.

impressed that Des was able to beat the crap out of Ben before going to hospital

i'd like to see more resentment from Juliet and James towards the o6 people for wrecking their shit altho i guess they can all just blame it on Sayid wherever he is

what happened? i am confused.
they said that not pushing the button caused 815 to crash - but wouldn't that have blown up the hatch before they ever found it/des? or when they crashed, did they also go back in time to when the hatch was still there?

what I don't get is how the "possibility" of none of seasons 1-4 ever happening is a possibility. like how does that even work, they suddenly wake up and are getting off the flight in la

i would be cool with that as long as when they got LA everyone was wearing Others rags living in tents and on TV there was a statue of President Smokemonster

forget the 'on TV' bit

xxp - yeah i don't think it can but if it does, it'll be interesting to see how the writers will try to convince us that it is possible. the only way it will happen is by paradox or introducing an alternate universe theory.

tehresa, 815 crashed the day Des *almost* didn't get to push the button because he was out chasing Kelvin, that's what they meant by failing to push the button.

they ruled out alternate/parallel universes thankfully

they also said that we weren't going to see dharma or paradoxes. :/

i love the reversal of the grandfather paradox in this ep btw - instead of going back in time to kill your grandfather, get killed by your mom!

jeez dudes... put yourselves in radzinski's shoes... would you act any different??

enjoyed this ep particularly daniels crazy nuke plan and the shot by mom reveal - both made me go OMG AWZOM

why is radzinski so angry all the time - dude needs to chillll

bald dudes be angry

it's not like he's pure evil though, he's just dickish

the dickish types are the worst though. pure evil bastards have style.

so why does Daniel have an american accent?

His accent... is not exactly his primary objective

lol. and why is his last name faraday?

His name is Daniel Faraday because his mom named him after himself, duh.

I liked this episode but am scared that it's going to mean more of a focus on the Jack/Kate group again, which pisses me off. That and semi-resolving the Desmond situation means no Desmond for now, Faraday is dead, and the "new" group running for the jungle will probably get focus.

i'm confused as to why his mom was still on the island in '77. how old is farrydaye? how old was ellie in 1954? wouldn't she have recognized him from the bomb burying business?

Yeah, that's a good point. I'm assuming Daniel was born ca. 1970, since he's a professor at Oxford in 1996, and Ellie, who looked to be about 18 in 1954, could conceivably have been in her mid-30s when she gave birth to him.