2008 Primaries Thread

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obama has a good answer here

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link

but-but-but-but

gr8080, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Lem-Lem-Lem-Lem

Pillbox, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link

real good answer from obama

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:46 (sixteen years ago) link

A+ for that one

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:46 (sixteen years ago) link

oh shit Obama citing the Dem-controlled Congress as a reason why the surge is working = baaaaad.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:47 (sixteen years ago) link

no way!!!

(xpost)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Harry Reid frightened the sheikhs in Anbar province!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:48 (sixteen years ago) link

That was ridiculous.

Kerm, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:48 (sixteen years ago) link

How much do you guys think the debates will matter in the primary much less the election?

As pointed out by noted ron paul looney Andrew Sullivan, Huckabee and Obama basically won Iowa on the strength of their rhetorical skills (and comparative weakness in that category demonstrated by their opponents)

El Tomboto, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Cons' heads exploding over Obama crediting Dem victory for Sunni turnaround, even tho Condi acknowledges this.

mulla atari, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I cannot believe Obama thinks there was a link between the 2006 elections and the tribes in the Anbar province thwarting al-Qaida.

Jeb, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Edwards is giving a clever political -- realistic -- response.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Richardson can't distinguish between eighth graders and eight-year-olds.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link

dem debate is a lot more boring than the repub one

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Cons' heads exploding over Obama crediting Dem victory for Sunni turnaround, even tho Condi acknowledges this.

When was that? Sounds very un-Condi.

Jeb, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link

As pointed out by noted ron paul looney Andrew Sullivan, Huckabee and Obama basically won Iowa on the strength of their rhetorical skills (and comparative weakness in that category demonstrated by their opponents)

Well, in Iowa, sure. But will it matter for New Hampshire? The U.S.?

Maybe I'm just remembering how much Kerry supposedly kicked ass in the 2004 debates and eventually had nothing to show for it afterward.

Mackro Mackro, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link

dem debate is a lot more boring than the repub one

-- deej, Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:51 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

civility is engaging but boring

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link

she can turn a phrase, Clinton. "in vigorous agreement"

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I cannot believe Obama thinks there was a link between the 2006 elections and the tribes in the Anbar province thwarting al-Qaida.

-- Jeb, Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:49 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

why?
genuine question, not argument

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link

deej, how has anything changed?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Bush and Defense approved the surge before the Dems acquired control.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:53 (sixteen years ago) link

??? what do you mean? deaths are way down. obama cited a specific example in which the political situation in the u.s. encouraged anbar tribes to start negotiating. i don't see why thats so hard to believe

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:55 (sixteen years ago) link

(and? what does that have to do w/ what obama said)

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe I'm just remembering how much Kerry supposedly kicked ass in the 2004 debates and eventually had nothing to show for it afterward.

Kerry is a very proficient technical debater, but he's a poor communicator. I watched the 2004 GE debates with my (admittedly, v. Republican) in-laws. As poorly as Bush did, they nailed it: "Bush talks to the people; Kerry talks to the Senators."

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:56 (sixteen years ago) link

is the rest of this 30 min long?

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link

lol double team

gr8080, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link

This questioner is terrible, but he's pitching a total softball to HRC. And she's all over it.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Condi used "The Dem Congress might force us to pull out soon and you'll be on your own" as a stick in her talks with Sunni leaders.

mulla atari, Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:59 (sixteen years ago) link

u sad

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 02:59 (sixteen years ago) link

That "you're likeable ENOUGH, Hillary" thing was weird.

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:00 (sixteen years ago) link

UMMMMM i'd rather have a beer with hil than obama or edwards

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:00 (sixteen years ago) link

adequately likeable

mulla atari, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:00 (sixteen years ago) link

a bong with Obama?

mulla atari, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:01 (sixteen years ago) link

haha
(xpost)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:01 (sixteen years ago) link

That "you're likeable ENOUGH, Hillary" thing was weird.

I wonder how that will play. It's consistent with Obama's current theme: Act like the frontrunner.

But again, HRC is totally hitting her themes.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:01 (sixteen years ago) link

That "you're likeable ENOUGH, Hillary" thing was weird.

-- Rock Hardy, Saturday, January 5, 2008 9:00 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

was lol

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:01 (sixteen years ago) link

35 years again. What happened in 1972? McGovern campaign.

mulla atari, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:02 (sixteen years ago) link

"I'm the only one who faced down North Korea about troop remains."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:05 (sixteen years ago) link

It's weird for Richardson to tout his cred when his boss' wife is a few feet away.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:06 (sixteen years ago) link

"I'm the only one who just farted."

mulla atari, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:06 (sixteen years ago) link

why?
genuine question, not argument

Well, it's such a tenuous link. A more common explanation is that the al-Qadia guys just didn't know how to behave: shoot-outs, wanton murders, that sort of thing. As an aside, I'm not entirely convinced by the concomitant argument, which goes something like, "we will see no political reconciliation in Iraq until we indicate that we are going to stop nursing them." I can think of a host of reasons why the Iraqi government is dysfunctional — the vast U.S. troop presence supposedly spoiling it seems an insignificant one.

Jeb, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:07 (sixteen years ago) link

richardson's banging on the table is annoying as fuck

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link

LOL at HRC smirking at the mention of Gore's name.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link

and that Gore allusion was TOTALLY gratuitous.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Is Bill Richardson going to cry?

Kerm, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link

UGH -- JFK was "one of our greatest presidents." Fuck you, fucktard.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Edwards: "We always picture our first day in the White House. I always imagined what would happen if John Kerry died."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Edwards and those damn mills

Pillbox, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:10 (sixteen years ago) link

These questions--jeez. "If Obama wanted to marry your daughter..."

mulla atari, Sunday, 6 January 2008 03:10 (sixteen years ago) link


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