first they came for the hipsters, aesthetes, dreamers, free-thinkers, croissant-munchers and game theoreticians
― wins, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:45 (seven years ago) link
marcos, do you work at CWRU? Do you know Cami Ross?
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:46 (seven years ago) link
phil i don't know her personally but she was at the meeting yesterday, answering questions along w/ other people from administration. she seems very cool!
― marcos, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:47 (seven years ago) link
larry appleton gunning for the "ILX Poster of the Year" award
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:48 (seven years ago) link
i think larry is speaking the truth but not exactly sure to what purpose
― the late great, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:49 (seven years ago) link
yeah, she's very cool. I only know her a little, but I know her husband relatively well, and he's a lifelong friend of another friend/co-worker of mine.
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:49 (seven years ago) link
i think larry is speaking the truth but not exactly sure to what purpose― the late great, Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:49 PM (fifty seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― the late great, Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:49 PM (fifty seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'll be straight-forward with it, I want people to feel like they have a real personal stake in this to create genuine solidarity. My goal is to inspire greater action from a greater number of people with a greater level of commitment, because I really don't want to see any of these worst case scenarios happen.
― larry appleton, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:51 (seven years ago) link
I'm thinking worst case scenarios here, because that's what I do.
Okay, gotcha. Well, in that case, we don't even need to worry about being rounded up and shot because Skynet is arming nuclear missiles to disperse Captain Trips among whatever small portion of the population hasn't already dissolved into grey goo.
Or we could, y'know, respond to shit that's actually happening or is likely to happen.
― Transformed From The Norm By The Nuclear Goop (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:51 (seven years ago) link
larry good job making a diverse coalition based on a broad vision of human rights all about the issue of whether or not you, personally, are going to wind up in a FEMA death camp.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:53 (seven years ago) link
I think there might be better ways to spur people to action than positing unlikely worst case scenarios
― the late great, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link
also, larry, you are more than welcome in the trumpology thread at any time. that thread is custom made for the keen insight and analysis of people like you.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link
That is interesting, because the way it is coming across is "how can I take all of the horrible shittiness currently being directed towards minorities and recast it so that it primarily impacts white people, the subtext being that they are the people who really matter in this country so we need to make sure it's reiterated and highlighted that this affects them before anyone can get upset about it"
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:55 (seven years ago) link
This is of course is not even touching on the assumption that post was built upon, namely that everyone posting on ILX or even this thread is a white person.
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, whatever dudes. Every time you guys are like MNURRRR NOT GONNA HAPPEN, what I say is going to happen, happens. You guys have your heads shoved way too far up your asses.
― larry appleton, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link
fuck you
you are posting white supremacy from the left at the moment. fuck everything about you.
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link
every single goddamned thing
wanna know why I'm terrified? because a significant number of my alleged "allies" are looking for ways out of this situation that, by definition, marginalize me and my family in ways similar to the way the current regime would like to marginalize me and my family.
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:00 (seven years ago) link
I've probably incurred more permanent physical damage fighting white supremacists than you have. It's not a contest, but to make that claim against me is idiotic. Maybe I'm just not communicating my point here correctly.
What I have been trying to do for you, is to get a lot of these people who feel like they don't have personal stakes in this, to feel like they are in the same group as you, so they fight as hard for you as they would themselves. I'm trying to help, and all you're going on about is how it makes your being a victim less special. WTF is that?
― larry appleton, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:02 (seven years ago) link
ok leave dude
― marcos, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link
you stupid motherfucker
jesus christ
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:04 (seven years ago) link
I forgot you dudes were a bunch of narcissistic sociopaths who masquerade as decent people. Seeya!
― larry appleton, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link
Just a quick technical question: how many times are we allowed to flag a post?
― Transformed From The Norm By The Nuclear Goop (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link
I've probably incurred more permanent physical damage fighting white supremacists than you have.
It's not a contest
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:08 (seven years ago) link
I'd tried in the past to be restrained and polite and handle you as if you were just misguided and frustrated, larry, but I'm going to go ahead and dispense with formalities to join in the chorus of people telling you to go fuck yourself.
― Transformed From The Norm By The Nuclear Goop (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:09 (seven years ago) link
larry, you can be a victim if you choose to be. I don't know why you want to be one but it's there for you as an option if you want it, which it seems you want desperately.
I do not want to be a victim. Most of the time, I am not a victim. As things stand, I will not be a victim due to where I live and the resources I have at my disposal. Even the shittiest executive order is not likely to directly impact me due to my race. What this environment is doing, however, is creating the official sanctioning of persecuting people who have been defined as "different" along specific axes that do not currently include "white". I am not concerned about the government coming to get me; I am concerned about being in the wrong place at the wrong time and getting jumped by yokels. What we're going to see here (and what we've already seen) is an increase in blatant hate crimes across the country; any response that doesn't include addressing and protecting people from that is an incomplete response.
In summation, fuck you.
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:10 (seven years ago) link
xxxpost like seriously do you think the people that posted here earlier actually don't care about demographics outside of their own? Most people were reflecting they came from a place of privilege while also stating their abject fear was based on their concerns for other people in their lives who stand to lose a lot more from it.
where the fuck do you get off coming in here like Dr Wokenstein pretending like you were the first dude ITT to suggest that minorities, immigrants, LGBTQ, and other already-marginalized groups stand to lose the most in this administration? you're blowing nobody's mind and in the process actually insulting one of the people you claim to be advocating for, and then not listening to their criticism that you're tone deaf.
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:11 (seven years ago) link
DJP otfm x 100
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:12 (seven years ago) link
I think we know who the narcissicistic sociopath is
― the late great, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:13 (seven years ago) link
LOL "Dr wokensteln"
― the late great, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:14 (seven years ago) link
Dude has resolutely refused to listen to anyone about anything since at least the election. He's the enlightened savior of millions, singlehandedly trudging through the blood-filled streets to bludgeon fascists with his fists of righteous while you and me? We sit here with our lattes and our Game Boys, never realizing that they've been building a prison camp around us this whole time. Wake up, sheeple. Wake up.
― Transformed From The Norm By The Nuclear Goop (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:19 (seven years ago) link
I think I meant 'fists of righteous fury' or something, but 'fists of righteous' works.
― Transformed From The Norm By The Nuclear Goop (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link
ilx clusterfuck has actually moved my dial back down to a 5 thx guys x
― Mother Teresa May I (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:25 (seven years ago) link
lol agreed
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:26 (seven years ago) link
yeah all of us coming together to fp larry has had an oddly soothing effect
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:27 (seven years ago) link
lemme try...
yeah, that is a nice feeling
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link
who is larry appleton, i mean originally. old user/new name? or new user?
― nomar, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:32 (seven years ago) link
last night i watched melancholia and a little before that i watched children of men.
that knocked my dial up to 8knocked my dial up probably not the best way to put it but in these times, we have to live with our mistakes.
#nodelete2017
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link
how do you not know larry? he singlehandedly ended the drone strike program with only the power of his wokeness xp
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:37 (seven years ago) link
nothing brings a group together more than telling That One Guy to go fuck himself
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:38 (seven years ago) link
change my style upknock my dial up
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:40 (seven years ago) link
i don't mean the guy from berkeley who plays the cowboy boot, but i guess i wouldn't object if somebody wanted to tell him to go fuck himself too
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link
I'm trying to imagine the balls it takes to tell someone who literally had a grandparent lynched that they haven't suffered enough from white supremacy.
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link
(actually it was 2 great-grandparents)
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link
Sorry, I couldn't remember the exact history and it felt rude to ask about it. Still, good god.
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link
http://www.theonion.com/multiblogpost/i-am-so-starving-vs-i-am-so-starving-11541
― nomar, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link
I only talked about one because there was an investigation on the circumstances by a law student at Northeastern that culminated in a presentation where my dad's cousin, who was approaching his teenage years at the time, spoke about how the whole thing affected our family.
This was the final report: http://nuweb9.neu.edu/civilrights/wp-content/uploads/samuel-mason-bacon.pdf
This is the type of thing we can expect to see a direct resurgence of; we may have already gotten a preview with what happened to Sandra Bland.
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link
6. If I was in the US it would no doubt be higher.
― chap, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link
But the larger point is bigger than me or things that have happened in my family; current events culminate in tacit federal approval of the targeting specifically of Muslims and Hispanics for hate crimes. Unless we fight, we will see abuses against those people rise dramatically. We need to stop things before they escalate beyond that and push back so that those abuses subside because we've all seen how this script plays out multiple times and if "American exceptionalism" is to mean anything other than "yay white people no matter how mediocre they are", it needs to be about learning from history and not making the same mistakes people who came before us made.
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 17:08 (seven years ago) link